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BearJWS said:
You're obviously on another tirade... so please feel free to not comment on me any more. You just like to argue at any expense.
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Amazing how you came to those conclusions. That sounds more like projection to me, but OK.

Canseco will be known as a sham to Major League Baseball. Feel free to side with McCants too.
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I didn't side with anyone, but again, OK. I agree that Canseco is a complete joke, which makes the fact that he was the most honest guy about steroids that much more damning. A very similar situation, to a lesser degree, is going on with McCants now.
 
Edward Sargent said:
Actually this will finally force Emmert's hand to investigate similar concerns at UCONN that he has had ever since his time spent here and thus free him from the perceived bias that he has for our program;)
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Actually you nailed it. It took me a long time to convince many here he had this bias and it would be bad for us. Now that's conventional wisdom .
 
Was it Omar who was investigated because of sneakers when he was 15. They always go after garbage and ignore the big stuff. Our APR problem would have been quickly fixed by some fake grades.

I think the most damning thing Rashad said was how he was made eligible in the fall semester by their making a course with an F grade disappear and throwing in a summer course. Seems specific and actionable.
 
BearJWS said:
You're obviously on another tirade... so please feel free to not comment on me any more. You just like to argue at any expense. Canseco will be known as a sham to Major League Baseball. Feel free to side with McCants too.
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I have no dog in this fight but you are throwing out straw men left and right and acting like intl is being the illogical one.
 
Again, we had scholarships lost a post season ban all because we barely missed a bullshit retroactive apr ruling. While schools are running paper classes to get kids by. Its so bogus. And we are still the most dominating college ball this decade. Viva la uconn.
 
We have guys who've been in the league and guys who will be in the league 10-15 years. Same guys who dont even need to be in the league. How many of our former guys are broke right now? Not many... we will survive doing things the right way. We take the stairs, Let them cheat. F$#k em! We are uconn.
 
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www.usatoday.com/story/sports/...tions/10102253/

From USA TODAY:

Sixteen players from North Carolina's 2005 national championship team issued the following statement Friday responding to former teammate Rashad McCants' allegations of academic misconduct:

"We are proud of our accomplishments both on and off the floor at UNC. With conviction, each one of us is proud to say that we attended class and did our own academic work. We want to thank our advisers and counselors who supported us, while also maintaining the integrity of the institution. We also want to make it clear that Coach Williams and his staff operated with the highest level of ethics and integrity within their respective roles. We are forever grateful for the lessons we learned on the court, in the classroom and during our time in Chapel Hill.

"In light of the comments made by Rashad on ESPN Outside the Lines, we want to state that our personal academic experiences are not consistent with Rashad's claims. We know that Coach Williams did not have any knowledge of any academic impropriety, and further that Coach Williams would not have tried to manipulate a player's schedule. Rashad will always be our teammate and we wish him well on all of his future endeavors."

Signed by:

Charlie Everett

Raymond Felton

Brooks Foster

Damion Grant

Jesse Holley

C.J. Hooker

Jackie Manuel

Sean May

Wes Miller

David Noel

Byron Sanders

Melvin Scott

Reyshawn Terry

Quentin Thomas

Jawad Williams

Marvin Williams

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Funny second to last sentence.

"We know that Coach Williams did not have any knowledge of any academic impropriety, and further that Coach Williams would not have tried to manipulate a player's schedule."

How can they know he wasn't aware if they did all their own work, unless they knew of cases where players did cheat/not do work/had tutors do it and Roy was in the dark. You would think the lawyers who wrote this for them would have worded it better (similar to their experiences at UNC).

They imply that someone on the team did cheat and they knew, but Roy didn't.
 
Ok, say that's true and only McCants received the benefit; unlikely based on the fact they basically created the African studies department to get athletes eligible. His experience alone is far more egregious than UCONN's and should land them in significant hot water with the NCAA
 
Rashad McCants was apparently one of four major players on the team who has a transcript loaded with the fake classes.
 
I find it hard to believe that the head coach wouldn't know about one of his best players' academic standings in the midst of a season with championship aspirations (they were preseason #3 that year, weren't they?).
 
How! How do we fix this mess. I would suspect that this is equally true for Fb and at all D1 schools to various degrees. I am a defender of sports at the Universities, but we need a whole other system. One-half of all college students with all the tie in the world or a pt-job waiting tables or reshelving books in a library find it challenging to carry a full load and devote equal time to the classes; so, it must be fourfold for athletes who must workout sometimes 2X/daily. Perhaps we need to move revenue sports to clubs and universities can adopt or become associated with a club. Clubs being willing to play their games at a given university facility. Of course the whole educ system would have to change so that a high school educ is an educ. This will not happen. There is really no need for a NBA projected bb player to be forced into a Univ for a year or however long to learn the game. At best this was a monopoly given to schools to generate revenues, at best. At worst, to keep the NBA free from certain groups. Given today's job market- no one has a job for life and more are over qualified (on paper) for what is demanded of them. The usual argument about a player getting hurt and/or kicked off a team and must make a life elsewhere hardly stand today (we often joke about Duke gradutes working as waiters/waitresses). In any case if they ha a deent hs educ they could start at a college, etc. Of course this is just rambling because the sysyem of college sports marches 'blindly' forward with FB as the Ppiper- free from any policing in its current version of P5 conf. Of course we like it when one of the big fish has problems keeping on the lid, thumbing our chest, etc. But the aves will settle down and the game will heat up and all will be forgotten because it's all about money/survival.
 
Roy knew, McCants has stopped bleeding baby blue while the others will try to keep the blue blood going. Sorry but there is no doubt he's telling the truth and the NCAA had better do something………

And where are the media dopes who preyed upon UConn for what would be termed minor incidents in comparison in the past………where are they in regards to this. Scared of UNC and their illustrious standing with the NCAA?

All a joke if nothing is done…….
 
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BearJWS said:
You're obviously on another tirade... so please feel free to not comment on me any more. You just like to argue at any expense. Canseco will be known as a sham to Major League Baseball. Feel free to side with McCants too.
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Canseco lied while it benefitted him...while he was playing, using and making millions. He was finally honest when it would again benefit him..,he was broke and needed to sell books and interviews and could no longer play.
 
The NCAA Tournament is the best sporting event in the world. Mostly, it showcases black athletes. Every black kid or white kid who gets to spend anytime on a college campus benefits. Why are all the balloon knots in the world trying to destroy it over some bull crap ideal that doesn't exist in the first place. Sad thing is that if ESPN had the tourney, there is not way that McCants even gets a voice. An NCAA scholarships gives a kid a shot at a life he would never hope to have without it. This is not a perfect world. Let's not destroy one of the few events that is...
well... perfect.
 
huskiemaniac said:
Canseco lied while it benefitted him...while he was playing, using and making millions. He was finally honest when it would again benefit him..,he was broke and needed to sell books and interviews and could no longer play.
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Yes! Which is why I likened him to McCants! (though I've no idea about McCant's monetary situation)
 
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mauconnfan said:
Roy knew, McCants has stopped bleeding baby blue while the others will try to keep the blue blood going. Sorry but there is no doubt he's telling the truth and the NCAA had better do something………

And where are the media dopes who preyed upon UConn for what would be termed minor incidents in comparison in the past………where are they in regards to this. Scared of UNC and their illustrious standing with the NCAA?
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As I said in a previous post....Wojo? Wetzel? Crickets.
 
pnete said:
The NCAA Tournament is the best sporting event in the world. Mostly, it showcases black athletes. Every black kid or white kid who gets to spend anytime on a college campus benefits. Why are all the balloon knots in the world trying to destroy it over some bull crap ideal that doesn't exist in the first place. Sad thing is that if ESPN had the tourney, there is not way that McCants even gets a voice. An NCAA scholarships gives a kid a shot at a life he would never hope to have without it. This is not a perfect world. Let's not destroy one of the few events that is...
well... perfect.
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But it was OK when they were destroying UCONN over a hell of a lot less than this? Not sure what you are saying.
 
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intlzncster said:
But it was OK when they were destroying UCONN over a hell of a lot less than this? Not sure what you are saying.
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You're right you don't get it. You can't win a championship that no longer exists. Because the NCAA no longer exists. Because a lot of petty people don't get that these stupid little penalties allow the NCAA to pretend it is a college enterprise and not just a bunch of semi-pro
teams located in various locations. It allows people to have a rooting interest in the local school. Like woman wearing white at their weddings, the NCAA is a wonderful illusion that doesn't hold up to close scrutiny.
 
F$ck em(mert) look at how slowly they are moving on this but they were pretty quick to give us scholarship loss and post season ban on their retro active apr bullshit. This seems much more serious. As uconn fans I guess it will always be us against the world aka Media, ncaa, conference realignment.... we continue to win ships... all that matters. Bleed blue.
 
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UcannUconn said:
F$ck em(mert) look at how slowly they are moving on this but they were pretty quick to give us scholarship loss and post season ban on their retro active apr bull . This seems much more serious. As uconn fans I guess it will always be us against the world aka Media, ncaa, conference realignment.... we continue to win ships... all that matters. Bleed blue.
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I am loathe, LOATHE, to defend the NCAA, but the fact that this is way more serious means they should take more time. Whether they actually do anything with that time is another story.
 
whaler11 said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/explai...mccants-alleges-academic-fraud-231634739.html

Wetzel From Yesterday.
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I think Wetzel is on target

What I don't like:
People who are so jaded they think all this stuff should be ignored. You need rules in any competition.

People who think because Nate Miles never played (alleged crime thingy prevented that not an ethical awakening) that recruiting violations are not recruiting violations

Now, before I get (re)massacred, I agree the NCAA is ridiculous in how goes after AAU sneakers and left Penn State & UNC alone. I agree that UNC's violations appear to dwarf UCONN's. I don't like the way academic compliance is measured by the APR. But when we support cutting corners we are part of the problem
 
David 76 said:
I think Wetzel is on target

What I don't like:
People who are so jaded they think all this stuff should be ignored. You need rules in any competition.
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That's kind of where I'm feeling a bit of hypocrisy from Wetzel here. He's kind of saying, "whelp, it's messed up. let's see if they do anything." Whereas if this was UCONN, Wetzel, in particular, would be screaming bloody murder. Daily.
 
intlzncster said:
Roy Williams of course in "shock" and "disbelief". If there's one thing I hate about Roy*, it's his faux "awwh shucks", "dadgummit" demeanor. Hate it. Smarmy duckcker.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...isbelief-rashad-mccants-claims-academic-fraud


*there's a lot of things I hate about Roy
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He never should have made up some BS love about the "independent study" courses offered, given they make up one of the sketchiest parts of this whole show. Weaving that in to a general disowning of knowledge of what was going on, it's hard to not think dude is lying right through his teeth
 
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