Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[AZHuskiePop]

Washington was not the victim here, anymore than BCU was the victim in 2003.

UConn fans are so used to being abused in realignment that now many UConn fans identify more with the abuser than we do with the abused. Washington was the abuser in this situation, and destroyed Washington State's and Oregon State's athletic programs, and forced the conference apart into far flung conferences that are going to damage fan interest long term. She has no one to blame but herself.

That Conferece could have survived Colorado an actual outsider.
Even without UCLA and USC . ( USC unhappiness in the PAC was public For 5 Years.) If expanded teams like SMU , SDSU , Boise , and Air Force and Gonzaga plus another BB school to appease Arizona , were in place before negotiations then that conference could have survived . Nobody really wanted to go to the * culturally lacking B12 . and even if Oregon and Washington who were hot for the B1G could not get away with begging them for a 1/2 price entry and screwing their other state schools . In fact the B1G doesn’t even make that offer. There is a difference between giving a life raft to schools without a home and being the stab that destroyed a long time partner and closest peer conference.

 

[noeynox]

Washington was not the victim here, anymore than BCU was the victim in 2003.

UConn fans are so used to being abused in realignment that now many UConn fans identify more with the abuser than we do with the abused. Washington was the abuser in this situation, and destroyed Washington State's and Oregon State's athletic programs, and forced the conference apart into far flung conferences that are going to damage fan interest long term. She has no one to blame but herself.

On this, we are in agreement. Washington and Oregon wanted the PAC to fall apart so they could go to their "dream conference".

 

[pj]

Washington was not the victim here, anymore than BCU was the victim in 2003.

UConn fans are so used to being abused in realignment that now many UConn fans identify more with the abuser than we do with the abused. Washington was the abuser in this situation, and destroyed Washington State's and Oregon State's athletic programs, and forced the conference apart into far flung conferences that are going to damage fan interest long term. She has no one to blame but herself.

Melodramatic much? Washington State and Oregon State have not had their athletic programs destroyed, just reduced a tier in competitive level and revenue; and Washington bears only a small part of the responsibility. UConn has experienced what Washington State and Oregon State are experiencing, and we aren't destroyed yet.

 

[uconnric]

The athletic programs at Oregon State and Washington State will be degraded from P level to G level. There's no safe harbor for them. And I don't see how Calford works out for the ACC or for those programs in general. OSU and WSU's rosters will be raided by P conference schools next year. OSU will likely lose their coach and they have a major stadium overhaul to pay for. It's not pretty for them.

 

[JohnFSilver]

On this, we are in agreement. Washington and Oregon wanted the PAC to fall apart so they could go to their "dream conference".

I think they hate being in big 10. They women have prefer status quo.

What does how much money you bring in helonthe fan experience?

TBH, all the money that is out there isn’t really going to anything valuable. A lazy river in a football complex? Is that really necessary? Is it value add?

These places have invented ways to spend and take on capex debt. Not sure it has made the sport better at all or provided superior services and experience to their athletes

 

[superjohn]

I think they hate being in big 10. They women have prefer status quo.

What does how much money you bring in helonthe fan experience?

TBH, all the money that is out there isn’t really going to anything valuable. A lazy river in a football complex? Is that really necessary? Is it value add?

These places have invented ways to spend and take on capex debt. Not sure it has made the sport better at all or provided superior services and experience to their athletes

What?

 

[noeynox]

I think they hate being in big 10. They women have prefer status quo.

What does how much money you bring in helonthe fan experience?

TBH, all the money that is out there isn’t really going to anything valuable. A lazy river in a football complex? Is that really necessary? Is it value add?

These places have invented ways to spend and take on capex debt. Not sure it has made the sport better at all or provided superior services and experience to their athletes

John, they practically begged to get picked up immediately after USC and UCLA bolted. Word was B1G wasn't interested in delivering the death blow to the PAC.

So it begs the question who told the commssioner to turn down a 30 million dollar a year per school offer and directed him to ask for 50 million? Only someone interested in seeing the conference picked apart would think that was a good idea.

 

[JohnFSilver]

What?

U think Oregon wants to be in big 10? They would prefer to be in pac with usc and ucla.

 

[JohnFSilver]

John, they practically begged to get picked up immediately after USC and UCLA bolted. Word was B1G wasn't interested in delivering the death blow to the PAC.

So it begs the question who told the commssioner to turn down a 30 million dollar a year per school offer and directed him to ask for 50 million? Only someone interested in seeing the conference picked apart would think that was a good idea.

once ucla and usc left? Sure. But they weren’t leaving if usc and ucla were in pac

 

[noeynox]

once ucla and usc left? Sure. But they weren’t leaving if usc and ucla were in pac

Well, it wasn't the remaining schools that "stabbed them in the back".

 

[noeynox]

 

[History Geek]

I think thats a good move for both parties.

 

[noeynox]

I think thats a good move for both parties.

Really? I don't. I think a better move is Navy going independent.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Really? I don't. I think a better move is Navy going independent.

A better move for UConn also keep Army , Temple and maybe even USF all Indy also It certainly would make our AD’s job easier
As for Navy they get $4,000,000 in the AAC and still get to keep 1/2 of the Army Navy game money .
They seem thrilled with their AAC deal .

 

[History Geek]

I think thats a good move for both parties.

Good for the AAC to get the Army-Navy game in league. Good Army to be on the same level as Navy for the next round. Yes, Navy going indy would accomplish the same thig. When the dust settles, I think Army/Navy/Air Force in the same place would be good for all three.

 

[uconntailgater]

What happens if both Army and Navy make it to the AAC championship game?

 

[noeynox]

What happens if both Army and Navy make it to the AAC championship game?

Wouldn't they be in the same division?

 

[Vowelguy]

Wouldn't they be in the same division?

AAC has abandoned divisions, along with ACC PAC MTN

Only BiG MAC SEC SUN still have divisions. I think BiG will be dumping them next year as well.

 

[shizzle787]

Army going to AAC is bad for us. They are a good reputable mid-level opponent.

 

[Drew]

Army going to AAC is bad for us. They are a good reputable mid-level opponent.

Totally agree- we need to hang onto our long term series with them if they wind up joining the AAC

 

[WrenchFan69]

So if Army joins for football they just never schedule Navy as a conference game? And then runs the chance of meeting in the conference championship the week before their scheduled matchup? Weird. Army joining the AAC is objectively bad for us.

 

[Storrs South]

It's definitely not ideal but on the positive side there are effectively only two teams that the ACC and SEC can schedule outside of September as they often do and it's UConn and UMass.

There are home and homes with Wake Forest and Missouri that UConn could replace since Army likely will back out of for example.

 

[Urcea]

ugh. the walls are closing in

 

[JohnFSilver]

ugh. the walls are closing in

UConn doesn’t want the AAC. It just cant compete there and no one wants to watch those teams play football. They have three acc opponents on schedule and an SEC opponent this year, for example. That, and some low FBS non-conf games is more attractive.

The money doesn’t help UConn much, though it certainly helps .

 

[noeynox]

UConn doesn’t want the AAC. It just cant compete there and no one wants to watch those teams play football. They have three acc opponents on schedule and an SEC opponent this year, for example. That, and some low FBS non-conf games is more attractive.

The money doesn’t help UConn much, though it certainly helps .

I forget who posted it here but someone said, what's the difference between nothing and almost nothing? Nothing. That's UConn and the AAC. The money from that is neither a windfall that will prop up football or worth damaging the basketball programs for. Now if it was the Big12 and making 31 million in a few years was in play, that is a different story.