Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ZooCougar]

And we complain about other programs, conferences and the media that have undervalued us over the past two decades.

It’s one thing to believe that we can get screwed again. It’s a totally different situation where our fans continually make a case that we lack value as the reason for getting screwed.

It’s not that we lack value.

Killing another conference is more valuable than what we have to offer though.

 

[ZooCougar]

This is like the end of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly or is it more like Reservoir Dogs? IDK - but its damn dramatic.

Mexican Standoff

 

[Banta55]

I still stand by UConn getting invited. Didn't think this would go into the weekend....but it's been wild.

Come on , it's okay to be wrong..

 

[huskymedic]

Maybe, maybe not. As much as any school in the country, ASU is dependent on out of state students from one particular state. ASU might be willing to swallow far more than a $10M revenue difference to keep athletics in front of the California public. What is U of A trying to accomplish that is so important that the Trustees would tell ASU's President he doesn't know what is good for his university?

I don't purport to know anything about what is going on in these meetings, but I am not convinced that, if the six northern schools are willing to remain, and SD State would be added, it's in ASU's interests to leave (as an institution -- as an athletic department, maybe a different answer).

Not fascinated enough to do the math right now but it does makes me wonder whether there is a play to increase the odds of an Arizona school making the CFP from different conferences while considering the above demographics.

That’s were additional $$ can be had to bridge delta.

 

[djct1999]

The big 10 wanted Oregon at half price. Why would they pay up now? If they really wanted that, they would have offered with UCLA and USC.

The only time the Big 10 may chase is when the SEC makes a move.

 

[BlueandOG]

I could see Arizona, Utah and us.

This was my initial prediction. I've modified to be UCONN, AZ, and ASU with Utah out. AZ and ASU have the same Board of Regents. I bet they are a package deal. Plus, BYU is the power school in Utah and may not want in-state competition.

 

[mike012]

I don’t think the BIG cares to offer Oregon full price. They would have already if they wanted too. Oregon doesn’t have much on the BIG to stress them out. Maybe Apple but BIG don’t care.

 

[SouthBayHusky]

This was my initial prediction. I've modified to be UCONN, AZ, and ASU with Utah out. AZ and ASU have the same Board of Regents. I bet they are a package deal. Plus, BYU is the power school in Utah and may not want in-state competition.

Exactly. This has been the scenario that I believe what happened from day one.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Come on , it's okay to be wrong..

I will reiterate that the music for today belongs to Lenny Kravitz. It ain't over till it's over.

 

[djct1999]

Exactly. This has been the scenario that I believe what happened from day one.

That is best case scenario.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Communication blitz, activate!

 

[greenday61892]

But not a mathematical nerd.

No that title belongs to me!

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I still stand by UConn getting invited. Didn't think this would go into the weekend....but it's been wild.

It has been insane. The PAC-12 and B12 board might as well sign a documentary series deal with Netflix or Amazon like the other poster said, and let those media companies in right now to document the whole thing. This could be one of the best-watched series in the future.

 

[GoKU]

Even if AZ, ASU & Utah all say yes?

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

 

[Urcea]

I sort of don't hate if it were Utah instead of ASU with Arizona and us. ASU has a lot of nice things going for it, but Utah would reinforce the overall cachet of the Big 12 as a football power

 

[Urcea]

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

4 as in + BYU?

 

[Rufus]

I cannot see a scenario where two schools governed by the same board make disparate decisions as to which conference they play in.

UCLA and Cal?

 

[WestCoastHusky]

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

Please clarify this statement. There are only 3 in the east, and it makes sense we are the 4th.

 

[GG]

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

But are the school presidents in agreement?

 

[businesslawyer]

Please clarify this statement. There are only 3 in the east, and it makes sense we are the 4th.

We've been through this before. If they take CO, U of A, one of Utah/ASU and us the 16 teams break down into neat regional pods of 4 (not important for football but for other sports) as follows:

East: WVU, Cincy, UCF, us.
West: BYU, U of A, Colorado, ASU/Utah
Texas: TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor, Houston
Plains: Ok State, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas St.

So in hoops, you play your pod home and home and one game against the other 12. Not as important that football scheduling be as geographically based.

Not predicting any of that, but it's clear what GoKU is talking about.

 

[Forte]

I sort of don't hate if it were Utah instead of ASU with Arizona and us. ASU has a lot of nice things going for it, but Utah would reinforce the overall cachet of the Big 12 as a football power

I don't see ASU splitting from Arizona. This is part of the drama that is happening. People on here are calling BS on GOKU but taking Mr. "welcome San Diego State to the big12" / cover all bases SWIAM as doom gospel.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

It never made sense to me why there were rumors of discussion between the B12 and Gonzaga a couple of months ago. In what world did that make sense? But maybe BY is a low-key genius and this is playing out exactly as he thought and planned.

Maybe Colorado and Arizona are the only P12 additions (makes sense since ASU and Utah are duplicative of Arizona and BYU). But BY wants to ensure he gets UConn as well to drive Eastern expansion and basketball dominance. So the adds are Colorado, Arizona, and UConn for all sports--and Gonzaga as basketball only gets them to 16. This was BYs plan all along.

While there is zero chance this is reality, it would actually be the ideal scenario for UConn. Adding UConn, Arizona, and Gonzaga to the existing B12 would solidify the B12 as the premier basketball conference.

 

[GoKU]

Please clarify this statement. There are only 3 in the east, and it makes sense we are the 4th.

BYU plus 3 more. Let's see what news breaks today.

 

[mike012]

This is what I gather


So Wash and OR =let’s say 100 million to BIG

4 corners worth 32 million a piece to BIg 12

Since Pac12 deal is weak that must mean that

Cali Stan Ore st and Wash st = -50 million value.

 

[auggie22]

My simple mind has already evaluated several competing outcomes with certainty. I am now going to watch things unfold and then claim I nailed it. I am also drinking before noon, so…