Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Purple Stein]

Lol, I love the fact that GoKU's rep vacillates between being Makers Muppet level and Nelson level depending upon each ebb and flow of realignment news.

He is like the very nexus of this board and its history. All of our former, present, and future hope and doom has gathered about him.

 

[uconnyankee]

I still stand by UConn getting invited. Didn't think this would go into the weekend....but it's been wild.

When this is all over, are you going to divulge how you know…..

 

[kobebeanbryant]

the boneyard at this point

 

[upstater]

Has anyone posted this yet?:

 

[ctchamps]

BYU plus 3 more. Let's see what news breaks today.

My dream is any two of Washington, Oregon and Arizona.

What's yours?

 

[ZooCougar]

I sort of don't hate if it were Utah instead of ASU with Arizona and us. ASU has a lot of nice things going for it, but Utah would reinforce the overall cachet of the Big 12 as a football power

I don’t care if it’s University of Phoenix.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

When this is all over, are you going to divulge how you know…..

Ouija board

 

[uconnyankee]

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

Isn’t that 4 schools: CO, AZ, ASU and Utah.
Doesn’t that lock out uconn

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

When this is all over, are you going to divulge how you know…..

My guess is he has actual connects within KU. Unfortunately, his "inside info" was as valuable to us as our "connected sources" on Tobacco Road during the last ACC expansion. Their information wasn't wrong from their sources...it is just that their sources weren't fully in the loop of the actual decision makers.

 

[Vowelguy]

Still don’t understand why Ore and Wash haven’t entered the story. Waiting on a BiG offer that may not come is a lot easier in the b12 than it is in the pac.

 

[uconnyankee]

We've been through this before. If they take CO, U of A, one of Utah/ASU and us the 16 teams break down into neat regional pods of 4 (not important for football but for other sports) as follows:

East: WVU, Cincy, UCF, us.
West: BYU, U of A, Colorado, ASU/Utah
Texas: TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor, Houston
Plains: Ok State, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas St.

So in hoops, you play your pod home and home and one game against the other 12. Not as important that football scheduling be as geographically based.

Not predicting any of that, but it's clear what GoKU is talking about.

Go figure a lawyer had to simplify!
Thanks. Makes sense.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Isn’t that 4 schools: CO, AZ, ASU and Utah.
Doesn’t that lock out uconn

It's four including BYU.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

That's not a done deal at all. Yormark only wants 4 west schools.

Therein lies the problem with this whole thing for UConn - BY appears to be the only person in the B12 who wants us. We are very clearly the 5th, at best, choice among the schools.

We are trying to get into a conference that does not want us.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Still don’t understand why Ore and Wash haven’t entered the story. Waiting on a BiG offer that may not come is a lot easier in the b12 than it is in the pac.

If they are waiting on a B1G offer either way, might as well be in a conference in which you are the alpha and can control...and will probably dominant athletically and get a auto playoff birth every year. Versus being a in a weakened political position in the conference hierarchy in the B12 and having to battle other real athletic programs. And not to mention the academic side of things. If they are eventually going to be in the B1G and preach academic importance...is that better done with Cal and Stanford...or the academic schools in the B12?

That is likely the debate they are having as they bide their time until the B1G invite in 8 years.

 

[huskypantz]

Still don’t understand why Ore and Wash haven’t entered the story. Waiting on a BiG offer that may not come is a lot easier in the b12 than it is in the pac.

I’m guessing there was enough talk to make them feel comfortable that it’s more WHEN than IF. Otherwise you’re right, they’d be scrambling.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Still don’t understand why Ore and Wash haven’t entered the story. Waiting on a BiG offer that may not come is a lot easier in the b12 than it is in the pac.

I believe it was reported last night that the B1G offered them a deal that was only a partial revenue share. I can't find the tweet now, but I remember it being from someone who was at least somewhat credible - so not the MH3/Dude crowd.

 

[ctchamps]

Therein lies the problem with this whole thing for UConn - BY appears to be the only person in the B12 who wants us. We are very clearly the 5th, at best, choice among the schools.

We are trying to get into a conference that does not want us.

He clarified his statement. BYU plus three others.

 

[GoKU]

My dream is any two of Washington, Oregon and Arizona.

What's yours?

Washington and Oregon never contacted the Big 12.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

He clarified his statement. BYU plus three others.

That's not the point I was making. If the B12 schools were aligned with BY that they want us, CU, and two others - we'd already be in.

The schools do not want us. That is abundantly clear.

 

[ctchamps]

Washington and Oregon never contacted the Big 12.

I realize that. But if that changes would you want them over Arizona and Arizona State? Or would you prefer one of them with Arizona? Just curious as to your valuations of those schools.

And do you know who else besides U of A has contacted the B12? And would you be willing to share that with us?

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

I’m guessing there was enough talk to make them feel comfortable that it’s more WHEN than IF. Otherwise you’re right, they’d be scrambling.

I wonder if part of the hold up on the Pac12 deal with the teams looking to stay is the distribution of revenue. WSU and Oregon St are desperate and in no position to negotiate--they are just trying to survive.

With the deal being a fully digital streaming deal with Apple, it opens new possibilities that are not available in the black-box cable set world. Maybe they are negotiating among themselves not only an uneven payout distribution based on on-field performance (NCAA credits), but also based on the actual viewership of events since you can track that with digital streaming. So conference payouts are dependent on the number of actual viewers of those events by school...so Oregon and Washington would obviously get a much bigger slice of the pie which would likely close the monetary gap to the B12 money. Maybe that is why they continue to meet and have these negotiations at the last minute to hammer out the distribution of revenue across schools. And also could explain Arizona State's stubborn interest in staying in the P12...as that model would also help ASU given their large alumni and fan base.

 

[ZooCougar]

It just appears that the PAC 12 is now looking for reasons to stay together. And I bet they will find them.

 

[Rewster]

I still stand by UConn getting invited. Didn't think this would go into the weekend....but it's been wild.

Not good enough. Explain how and with whom.

 

[upstater]

My simple reading:

1. The Apple money plus the CFP money divided by fewer members is as good, and maybe better, than the B12 money.

2. But being on Apple may be horrible for recruiting.

3. The chances of the P12 blowing up by 2031 are the same as the chances of the B12 receiving a much reduced rate in 2031.

Conclusion: Confusion.

 

[djct1999]

My simple reading:

1. The Apple money plus the CFP money divided by fewer members is as good, and maybe better, than the B12 money.

2. But being on Apple may be horrible for recruiting.

3. The chances of the P12 blowing up by 2031 are the same as the chances of the B12 receiving a much reduced rate in 2031.

Conclusion: Confusion.

agree on 1 and 3. 2. should read: oregon trying hard to get better deal from apple and remaining pac 9 schools 4. the big 10 wants oregon and washington on their terms. why would they ever outbid themsevles at this point in time.