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Don't give up hope. Remember we (UConn) are ND's partner when they join the ACC.
It’s in ASU’s interest to leave, so they will.
They pulled the trigger.
We just have to beat out Utah. We don't know what the Big XII is looking for -- if they want one more eastern team, we are in the driver's seat. If they want Utah, they want Utah. But Michael Doleac isn't walking through that door...Ugh if ORWA is leaving it’s all done
Michael Doleac didn't play football.We just have to beat out Utah. We don't know what the Big XII is looking for -- if they want one more eastern team, we are in the driver's seat. If they want Utah, they want Utah. But Michael Doleac isn't walking through that door...
No one could know ahead of time that ASU's president would be dragging his feet. As it turns out he couldn't have known ahead of time his dragging his feet could eliminate his school from an invite now that Oregon and Washington are heading to the BIG.Came off more harsh than I wanted in retrospect. However just does not seem believable that last night when it seemed to be a done deal with 3 more PAC schools GOKU is crickets. Then word is the deal is falling apart this morning and he/she sounds like there was never any doubt. We should be more discerning than to just defend the person who is telling us all what we want to hear. Hope GOKU right of course but ….
Still praying 4 in the West, and 4 in the East. It makes all the sense in the world, but who knows what B12 presidents are thinking?We just have to beat out Utah. We don't know what the Big XII is looking for -- if they want one more east coast team, we are in the driver's seat. If they want Utah, they want Utah. But Michael Doleac isn't walking through that door...
I mean if the Arizonas leave and the Big10 expands. Utah staying or leaving will make no diference. We are still the better choice for #16, and the PAC is dead anyway.Why? If the 4 Corners stay, and Oregon and Wash do then they will be fine.
And now their first option may no longer be available.Yes, once the Pac is dead there is no option. But until Oregon and UW decided to leave, there was.
I mean if the Arizonas leave and the Big10 expands. Utah staying or leaving will make no diference. We are still the better choice for #16, and the PAC is dead anyway.
My neck, my back, my Michael DoleacMichael Doleac didn't play football.
I mean if the Arizonas leave and the Big10 expands. Utah staying or leaving will make no diference. We are still the better choice for #16, and the PAC is dead anyway.
With Oregon and Washington going to BIG I’m not sure Arizona can demand a package deal with ASU. Arizona needs Big 12 more than the Big 12 needs themCatch up. That’s not a given anymore.
And from the Big 12s POV we aren’t preferable to UA, ASU and Utah.
This is a great point, Big 12 holds all the cards now.With Oregon and Washington going to BIG I’m not sure Arizona can demand a package deal with ASU. Arizona needs Big 12 more than the Big 12 needs them
Absolutely. Their leverage went down the tubes more than us.With Oregon and Washington going to BIG I’m not sure Arizona can demand a package deal with ASU. Arizona needs Big 12 more than the Big 12 needs them
Big 12 certainly has all the leverage now. If they want UConn and 2 more pac 12 schools they can get it whereas before grabbing UConn may have cost them the other pac 12 schools.With Oregon and Washington going to BIG I’m not sure Arizona can demand a package deal with ASU. Arizona needs Big 12 more than the Big 12 needs them
That may have been his original vision, but things change and fast around here apparently. Also his vision doesn't necessarily equal that of school presidents. Just like the last B1G commissioner who wanted to grab Oregon and Washington with USC and UCLA, but couldn't get it done.I find it very hard to believe B12 will add a 2nd team from Utah. There is no media value in expanding into Utah. It’s also contrary to everything BY has said the conference wants: (1) become national and open up New York City market. (2) schools that want to be there - not teams like Utah who have thumbed their nose at B12. (3) be the Premier basketball conference which is not accomplished by excluding basketball bluelood UConn whole diluting your basketball product with Utah, BYU, UCF, etc.
What do you know...relax we're good.
It makes no sense, but who knows what those B12 presidents are thinking?I find it very hard to believe B12 will add a 2nd team from Utah. There is no media value in expanding into Utah. It’s also contrary to everything BY has said the conference wants: (1) become national and open up New York City market. (2) schools that want to be there - not teams like Utah who have thumbed their nose at B12. (3) be the Premier basketball conference which is not accomplished by excluding basketball bluelood UConn whole diluting your basketball product with Utah, BYU, UCF, etc.