ACC votes to add Stanford, Cal, SMU: Conference presidents approve expansion to 18 schools

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UNC was not for it so we can expect them to dip soon.

With ACC leaders set to take up Stanford, Cal, SMU expansion, 2 UNC trustees announce opposition

With Atlantic Coast Conference university leaders seemingly on the verge of deciding whether to expand with Stanford, California and SMU, two members of North Carolina’s board of trustees announced their opposition to the move

www.usatoday.com

 

[kibblesnbits]

They’ve probably been assured that they’ll get some additional revenue on facility rentals

That's insane. Half the teams travelling into Dallas will be doing so for a "home" game? If the Stanford softball team is American Airlines Platinum because they are travelling to Dallas for most of their games, what is the campus community benefit to having a softball team? In fact, if both teams are travelling 1/2 way across the country for the Virginia/Stanford double-header, how does it really reduce travel? Will it matter which is the home team? They can just take turns. The three fans in the stands won't mind.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[mauconnfan]

Had a chance to laugh at them for their choosing SMU over UConn last night. But instead the football team decided to look like an A10 program against a very beatable Wolfpack squad.

 

[HuskyHawk]

In what world is SMU a better option than UConn? Holy crap. This is nauseating.

I still blame Jeff Hathaway for all this. Imagine if they didn't hire Pasqualoni but instead got a competent coach. Would UConn football have continued their upward trajectory after Edsall left following the bowl game? If they did would UConn have been a much more attractive option for all these conferences?

There is no such world, which means it's entirely personal. It's emotional rather than a rational business decision. Which is why I'm now on team Giant Meteor (metaphorically). Burn it all down.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Had a chance to laugh at them for their choosing SMU over UConn last night. But instead the football team decided to look like an A10 program against a very beatable Wolfpack squad.

That wolfpack squad is expected to be the 4th best team in the ACC.

 

[superjohn]

There is no such world, which means it's entirely personal. It's emotional rather than a rational business decision. Which is why I'm now on team Giant Meteor (metaphorically). Burn it all down.

ACC burned themselves down and college football will burn itself down when they move to 2 giant conferences.

 

[HooperScooper]

They’ve probably been assured that they’ll get some additional revenue on facility rentals

So no, or very few, home games for these sports? That's the epitome of not being college sports.

 

[Scoe]

Screw realignment and let’s embrace independence will come with its challenges but pulling it off is doable. Need consistent effort from the state and AD to get sell outs last was great to see but now we need that consistency going forward.

 

[PNolanFan]

Had a chance to laugh at them for their choosing SMU over UConn last night. But instead the football team decided to look like an A10 program against a very beatable Wolfpack squad.

I dont know about this one, NC State is probably around the 35th best team in the country, losing by 10 to them is a very respectable effort, I have my raised my optimism for this season after the game. I think it is unreasonable to expect this team this year to be a top team

 

[ElGreco]

This makes me want to puke maybe more than any other one of these. SMU is the least justifiable move I can imagine

They are getting ZERO cash for 7 years. Desperation

 

[Kitaman]

 

[Lynyrd]

Big FSU football fan for the foreseeable future …

 

[HooperScooper]

As Bilas said 9 years ago - "The ACC didn't want them. UConn won a championship."

So I guess I know what the Huskies need to do within the next 2-3 years.

All I really care about is a great men's basketball team. Can they continue to do that in the current landscape? At some point won't the fiscal realities kick in and impede the program? That's my greatest worry with all this. Gonzaga has been doing it for a long time (put aside the fact that they haven't won an NCAA Tournament championship).

 

[ElGreco]

So the only former P6 teams on the outside looking in now are UConn, WSU, Oregon State, USF?

Memphis?

 

[Fishy]

As Bilas said 9 years ago - "The ACC didn't want them. UConn won a championship."

So I guess I know what the Huskies need to do within the next 2-3 years.

All I really care about is a great men's basketball team. Can they continue to do that in the current landscape? At some point won't the fiscal realities kick in and impede the program? That's my greatest worry with all this. Although Gonzaga has been doing it for a long time (put aside the fact that they haven't won an NCAA Tournament championship).

If you even care a lick about UConn sports downstream from men’s basketball, this round of realignment was the absolute worst case scenario. People like to whistle past the graveyard, but the spending deficit has been declared unsustainable and will continue to be reduced even as the cost of athletics goes up. You will see the effect in baseball, soccer, field hockey, etc., as staff budgets, travel budgets, recruiting budgets, etc., are all reduced.

If you’re just a fan of men’s basketball, it was merely very, very bad. You have to hope that the Big East can stay relevant outside of the power structure in college sports. That’s not a given - if you think the future is going to be kind to a conference with Seton Hall and Providence, I don’t know what you have been watching.

If you’re a UConn football fan…this has probably opened an eight to ten year window in which we’ll have to decide whether we can keep it going.

 

[ElGreco]

As Bilas said 9 years ago - "The ACC didn't want them. UConn won a championship."

So I guess I know what the Huskies need to do within the next 2-3 years.

All I really care about is a great men's basketball team. Can they continue to do that in the current landscape? At some point won't the fiscal realities kick in and impede the program? That's my greatest worry with all this. Gonzaga has been doing it for a long time (put aside the fact that they haven't won an NCAA Tournament championship).

Hoping for now at least that the elite BB players (1 & done types ) would not want to travel cross-country like is the case in many conferences when they can play in a major BB centric conference in major markets.

 

[superjohn]

If you even care a lick about UConn sports downstream from men’s basketball, this round of realignment was the absolute worst case scenario. People like to whistle past the graveyard, but the spending deficit has been declared unsustainable and will continue to be reduced even as the cost of athletics goes up. You will see the effect in baseball, soccer, field hockey, etc., as staff budgets, travel budgets, recruiting budgets, etc., are all reduced.

If you’re just a fan of men’s basketball, it was merely very, very bad. You have to hope that the Big East can stay relevant outside of the power structure in college sports. That’s not a given - if you think the future is going to be kind to a conference with Seton Hall and Providence, I don’t know what you have been watching.

If you’re a UConn football fan…this has probably opened an eight to ten year window in which we’ll have to decide whether we can keep it going.

You lose it whenever you start talking about the demise of UConn basketball.

 

[shizzle787]

If you even care a lick about UConn sports downstream from men’s basketball, this round of realignment was the absolute worst case scenario. People like to whistle past the graveyard, but the spending deficit has been declared unsustainable and will continue to be reduced even as the cost of athletics goes up. You will see the effect in baseball, soccer, field hockey, etc., as staff budgets, travel budgets, recruiting budgets, etc., are all reduced.

If you’re just a fan of men’s basketball, it was merely very, very bad. You have to hope that the Big East can stay relevant outside of the power structure in college sports. That’s not a given - if you think the future is going to be kind to a conference with Seton Hall and Providence, I don’t know what you have been watching.

If you’re a UConn football fan…this has probably opened an eight to ten year window in which we’ll have to decide whether we can keep it going.

I think the Big East will be fine for basketball. It looks like the Gavitt games are about to get extended so the Big 10 is not lifting their noses up at us. They see us as a basketball peer.

 

[cullaville]

Too bad this still wasn't true - UCONN could the justify and conference geographically

Did you know that Connecticut’s borders once extended to the Pacific Ocean?

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[Punkbo]

What does it have to do with their academic profile?

Speak to athletes from Ivy League schools. Many of them pride themselves much more on their academic profile than their athletic profile because they understand that they will never be professional athletes. They play for the love of the sport and to complete their college experience. It’s hard enough to pursue your professional employment dreams traveling around the Northeast let alone from coast to coast.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Speak to athletes from Ivy League schools. Many of them pride themselves much more on their academic profile than their athletic profile because they understand that they will never be professional athletes. They play for the love of the sport and to complete their college experience. It’s hard enough to pursue your professional dreams traveling around the Northeast let alone from coast to coast.

I'm thinking of how hard the athletes I lived with at the Ivy League school I attended would be laughing at your silly post.

I suspect the Stanford field hockey team will be just fine.

 

[HuskyHawk]

You lose it whenever you start talking about the demise of UConn basketball.

Depends on the timeframe. Short term, it's fine. Long term? Uknown. I admit I was looking at the Tyler Betsey thread and saw "Alabama and Cincinatti". What? Cincinatti? Well it's Big XII now, so.

A tale of my two programs, KU renovating AFH and spending $300m on a new football stadium. We're dead in the water at UConn. XL sucks, we can't fix it and we pay for it. Gampel needs upgrades but will anyone fund that? Short of a Phil Knight level sponsor or a 20x increase in the endowment, UConn is in some trouble here. Some small sports will be cut first. But cuts will come everywhere eventually.

 

[willie99]

SMU, LOL

 

[Vowelguy]

ND would be vehemently opposed to this.

Why the hell would ND care if one of their games counted as a conference game for their opponent? It doesn’t affect ND in the slightest.

Dude, you cannot see the forest for the trees. IF the ACC adds a 9th game it’ll be only because they can get a lot more money. And they sure as hell are not going to let the odd number of teams stop them from doing that.

 

[Punkbo]

I'm thinking of how hard the athletes I lived with at the Ivy League school I attended would be laughing at your silly post.

I suspect the Stanford field hockey team will be just fine.

Based on some of your prior posts, we may have attended the same school. If we’re the same age, we may know the same people. If you’re willing to answer, did you play a sport at school and what field are you in?

 

[shizzle787]

Why the hell would ND care if one of their games counted as a conference game for their opponent? It doesn’t affect ND in the slightest.

Dude, you cannot see the forest for the trees. IF the ACC adds a 9th game it’ll be only because they can get a lot more money. And they sure as hell are not going to let the odd number of teams stop them from doing that.

ESPN is not paying them for a 9th game. You can't see the forest from the trees. ESPN has the ACC by the you know whats. It is the same reason why the SEC is not going to 9 games. ESPN hasn't agreed to pay them more for it. Also, FSU and Clemson do not want 9 conference games. That means every third year FSU will play ND, Florida AND 9 conference games. Not going to happen. Besides the fact that the math as I have already posted shows why you can't have an odd number of games. ND absolutely does not want to count as anyone's conference game whether it is a conference game for them or not. They don't want to be associated with conference anything in football other than non-conference contests.

 

[Scoe]

It’s time to find an alternative and stop hoping for acceptance into a conference. Let’s find a way, it can be done. Countless times we have defeated evil why stop now.

 

[Vowelguy]

So no, or very few, home games for these sports? That's the epitome of not being college sports.

This already exists a little in some Olympic sports — you’ll see NC go to Iowa for a (non conference) field hockey game, and then while they are there, they will play a neutral site game against Northwestern (for example).

You can’t do it for every game, but even a few games a year cuts out some travel.

 

[Ha Who]

ACC adding Stanford, Cal and SMU means the conference's days of being an elite basketball league are over

Cal, Stanford and SMU will make the ACC bigger, but with 18 teams it will definitely not be better

www.cbssports.com