Vance is Transferring | Page 18 | The Boneyard

Vance is Transferring

Status
Not open for further replies.
T-Squared said:
To be honest, Vance wasn't a very good shooter. Apparently, if you read the "knowledge" that some of these posters spout, that was his calling card. Either you can shoot or you can't; Vance's numerous air balls and bricks that he hoisted this year supports the claim that he can't.
Expand ...

I thought I would be able to stop defending this point now that Vance has announced he is leaving. Vance led the entire conference in 3 point shooting percentage! As a freshman! And "shooters" notoriously struggle with their shot in their initial year. Vance's limited athleticism was always going to hold him back on defense but he is a skilled player who is an excellent shooter.
 
Well, we were all calling for a shakeup and now we got it.
To recap
-We've replaced Glen Miller (wish him all the best) with frickin Raphael Chillious.
-We've lost Jackson and Enoch, who are both very replaceable players.

Now I'm not saying I'm happy those guys are leaving, obviously we all wished they stayed. But now we've got 3 scholarships to play with and a handful of players who Chillious had recruited at Washington who are reopening their recruitment. AND the usual grad transfer market.

It's March 28. The 2016-17 season isn't even over yet. There's plenty of time and a decent number of options for us to fill out this roster.
You can't convince me the sky is falling.
We got a shakeup, it hurts, but I'm optimistic about the future.
 
4xChamps said:
Expand ...

upload_2017-3-28_21-28-40.jpeg
 
T-Squared said:
To be honest, Vance wasn't a very good shooter. Apparently, if you read the "knowledge" that some of these posters spout, that was his calling card. Either you can shoot or you can't; Vance's numerous air balls and bricks that he hoisted this year supports the claim that he can't. He's the definition of a JAG. Or maybe a quality practice player. No real loss.
Expand ...
He literally was the best shooter in the entire conference
 
.-.
cordeodato said:
Has anyone left UConn and done better for themselves? Most of you people know more than I do so I am interested in your answer
Expand ...
Define better. No one helped their stock in terms of pro potential. Kids usually transfer due to a lack of playing time. Typically, there is a good reason for that.
 
walker11 said:
I thought I would be able to stop defending this point now that Vance has announced he is leaving. Vance led the entire conference in 3 point shooting percentage! As a freshman! And "shooters" notoriously struggle with their shot in their initial year. Vance's limited athleticism was always going to hold him back on defense but he is a skilled player who is an excellent shooter.
Expand ...
Vance's lack of athleticism hurt him offensively as well. He can't create off the dribble. On a good team, Vance sees 15-18 mins tops. He is a rotational player. I could easily project that his best year will be this past year due to forced playing time. I don't see how him leaving(or Enoch) greatly impacts next year. I think this sky is falling mentality shows more than anything how bad this team really is.
 
T-Squared said:
To be honest, Vance wasn't a very good shooter. Apparently, if you read the "knowledge" that some of these posters spout, that was his calling card. Either you can shoot or you can't; Vance's numerous air balls and bricks that he hoisted this year supports the claim that he can't. He's the definition of a JAG. Or maybe a quality practice player. No real loss.
Expand ...


My reaction to his transferring is "F Vance and his sh!&+#€@d dad, but this take is factually wrong.
 
.-.
Vance started to come around as a shooter after a slow start, 40% from deep as a freshman is impressive. He just had some really bad misses too often that you don't see from a pure shooter. Bricks and airballs, etc. I wouldn't call him a pure shooter (take a look at that 67% FT clip) but he's certainly a threat.
 
4xChamps said:
He literally was the best shooter in the entire conference
Expand ...

It's true - he lead the conference in 3-point fg percentage. He also missed waaaayyy too many open jumpers at key points of games...shots that, if scored, could have helped change the outcome. A good shooter knocks those shots down. He's not a good shooter.
 
T-Squared said:
It's true - he lead the conference in 3-point fg percentage. He also missed waaaayyy too many open jumpers at key points of games...shots that, if scored, could have helped change the outcome. A good shooter knocks those shots down. He's not a good shooter.
Expand ...


I appreciate the effort to convince yourself that isn't a loss, but you should probably stop.
 
T-Squared said:
It's true - he lead the conference in 3-point fg percentage. He also missed waaaayyy too many open jumpers at key points of games...shots that, if scored, could have helped change the outcome. A good shooter knocks those shots down. He's not a good shooter.
Expand ...

Good luck with that argument. The truth is in the percentages. Not your gut feeling.

djct1999 said:
Vance's lack of athleticism hurt him offensively as well. He can't create off the dribble. On a good team, Vance sees 15-18 mins tops. He is a rotational player. I could easily project that his best year will be this past year due to forced playing time. I don't see how him leaving(or Enoch) greatly impacts next year. I think this sky is falling mentality shows more than anything how bad this team really is.
Expand ...

He showed a little more off the bounce that I actually thought he would. He can pump fake and plays with a level of composure. He will be a starter at a good D1 school. His upside will likely depend on him gaining strength so he can defend the 4. I am not really worried about how he impacts us long term and he obviously doesn't fit KO's defensive scheme. but I think he will have a good career somewhere.

There is a lot of talent on the roster. The sky falling mentality isn't really apparent if the storm is actually over and if that's how someone feels, its on them.
 
.-.
80shusky said:
Bummer. I think Vance would have been a great player in Ollie's system ironically. Thanks for a nice freshman year and good luck wherever your life may take you.
Expand ...
Yep, I always thought we were going to play small ball this year and needed shooters and I thought Vance would be a perfect 4 in this system. This one hurts but it seems he didn't want to be here. SE I think we can live without but VJ would have been an integral player especially since he had a year under his belts and was on the freshman AAC All Rookie team.
 
Boneyarder 1: "We need to recruit guys with higher basketball IQ, rather than athletic guys who were soccer players until three years ago. "

Boneyarder 2: "Agree. And we need to recruit some big guys that can shoot."

Boneyarder 1: "Hey, did you hear Vance is transferring?

Boneyarder 2: "Yeah, no big loss. He wasn't athletic enough and airballed that one shot vs SMU."

Boneyarder 1: "Agree. He sucks. His style of play doesn't fit what we're trying to do here."
 
3rdbass said:
Yep, I always thought we were going to play small ball this year and needed shooters and I thought Vance would be a perfect 4 in this system. This one hurts but it seems he didn't want to be here. SE I think we can live without but VJ would have been an integral player especially since he had a year under his belts and was on the freshman AAC All Rookie team.
Expand ...
Yes, I kind of figured he might actually start at the 4 next year. That may be why it wasn't the best place to "showcase his talents" or whatever.
 
.-.
3rdbass said:
Yep, I always thought we were going to play small ball this year and needed shooters and I thought Vance would be a perfect 4 in this system. This one hurts but it seems he didn't want to be here. SE I think we can live without but VJ would have been an integral player especially since he had a year under his belts and was on the freshman AAC All Rookie team.
Expand ...
I guess pops wasn't satisfied with anything less than 1st Team All-Conference.
 
Pudge said:
Disappointed

What a bunch of freaking whiny babies in the Boneyard
Expand ...

Agreed. Vance was a freshman 3000 miles away from home and if you don't give him a break and look at his up side you are crazy. Maybe he would not have gotten better but given his age, a year under his belt would have let us seen how good he could be. We are not getting that year. Thanks to Vance for coming here and giving it a shot.
 
80shusky said:
Yes, I kind of figured he might actually start at the 4 next year. That may be why it wasn't the best place to "showcase his talents" or whatever.
Expand ...
I love when people say, "I'm taking my talents to ABC University." I always visualize the kid packing them in his luggage....
 
80shusky said:
Yes, I kind of figured he might actually start at the 4 next year. That may be why it wasn't the best place to "showcase his talents" or whatever.
Expand ...
Good point even though I think the two forward positions would have been interchangeable.
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,242
Messages
4,559,590
Members
10,447
Latest member
Theuconnguy


Top Bottom