Vance is Transferring

[tzznandrew]

Well according to OZ the transfer nightmare is over

I hope he's right for a few reasons.

First, because I think CV and JD are really important to the future of the program.

Second, because he has real connections to KO, and if he's wrong that means KO might not have the right pulse on his players.

 

[ctchamps]

It's more of being an absolute condescending doosh any chance you get in the face of a clear and developing pattern over a short timeline.

All so you can perpetuate this ongoing charade that YOU are the most level headed person on this board. NOTHING rattles you, you never react to anything so therefore you are not affected by anything. You are the ultimate zen monk, shaken by none.

Then when it turns out you were wrong... you double down.

Actually his reaction mirrors yours. You hit KO pretty much the same way. Only difference is he has the balls to stare down fellow Boneyarders. You and the dudes like you talk tough against the air.

 

[BUConn10]

you act like it's been a smooth transition for Ollie and the university since '13... and im not talking wins and losses

I'm talking about how some of our fan base continue to behave and think in 2017.

You guys think we are even close to UNC, Duke and the programs we think we are peers with at this moment? We are lucky to be seen as eye to eye with VCU at this moment in time. But internally our fans still think "we will win a title every 4 years because magic" and therefore all is well as a secret blue blood that no one else knows about.

 

[ctchamps]

I hope he's right for a few reasons.

First, because I think CV and JD are really important to the future of the program.

Second, because he has real connections to KO, and if he's wrong that means KO might not have the right pulse on his players.

Or KO or whoever his sources are are choosing to stop contact with him regarding these issues.

 

[BUConn10]

Actually his reaction mirrors yours. You hit KO pretty much the same way. Only difference is he has the balls to stare down fellow Boneyarders. You and the dudes like you talk tough against the air.

What in gods name are you trying to say here fleud?

Take this pseudo-intellectual cryptic posting crap to another thread for another day.

 

[Travelman6]

Blah blah blah, I am out, blah blah blah, some BS about "brothers" blah blah.

In the end, the translation is: I am a quitter.

I do not wish him well, he quit on Uconn, why shouldn't I/we do the same?

 

[tzznandrew]

That quote is the definition of insanity. Trying the same thing over and over and hoping for different results. That's KO's plan too. It's not working.

If the only news this week is that VJ and SE are leaving, and Chillious is coming in...this is a huge net win.

Seriously, Chillious, Killings, KO, and Moore are going to light up the recruiting trail in ways I don't think we've seen since mid-2000s...and maybe never.

 

[Jimbo]

"We" didn't see eye to eye. Shades of DHam. Helicopter parents. I guess they know more about getting someone NBA ready than KO and Uconn. I have grandchildren who play soccer and the parents have to be on the opposite side of the field from the kids and coach. I think the lesson here is taking a long look at the parent as well as the kid. This kind of hovering cannot enhance development when you are getting it from home and the staff is trying to mold you at the same time. Conflict city. Give me some Boats, Bazzes, DePriests, Allens etc. I actually feel bad for the kids. What a shame. This is really a cultural phenomenon.

This doesn't get enough attention, and I think it's really important. Geno said the following on one of his SNY shows one time, and it always stuck with me:

"For us, one of the hardest things for us to identify in recruiting is: do we want these parents in our program, yes or no. Sometimes it's not even do we want that kid in our program. Sometimes the kid's not a bad kid. Do we want these parents in our program? And you'd be surprised how many times we say, 'no, we don't.'"

Now, by no means am I suggesting that Kevin's overall recruiting strategy can, or even should, mirror Geno's—they operate in different worlds. I'm saying only that one important factor, to the extent it's predictable, ideally should be the likelihood of parental interference in the program. The wrong parent(s) can cause a lot of problems, and a given recruit may or may not be worth that added trouble.

 

[UCweCONN]

Why not? Might as well hope for the best.

You guys act like it's a sure thing. I'm a realist. If he doesn't, we're f-d. I'm tired of saying wait until next year or worse, "in KO we trust"......Sorry, I just vomited in my mouth. To quote Tony Montana, "Who I trust?! Me, that's who!"

 

[ctchamps]

I'm talking about how some of our fan base continue to behave and think in 2017.

You guys think we are even close to UNC, Duke and the programs we think we are peers with at this moment? We are lucky to be seen as eye to eye with VCU at this moment in time. But internally our fans still think "we will win a title every 4 years because magic" and therefore all is well as a secret blue blood that no one else knows about.

It's not either or. There are a lot of other possibilities. You've created a scenario which may not stay fixed. Success is fluid. Take failure with a grain of salt.

 

[Letsgohuskies11]

if there are major chemistry issues going on, best thing ollie can do is get a leader on this team, whether Jalen is ready, or a grad transfer, and make them take ownership for the team like Donnell an Kemba back in 2011.

 

[tzznandrew]

Or KO or whoever his sources are are choosing to stop contact with him regarding these issues.

Another option. But Oz says he just talked to KO about it. To lie to Oz's face doesn't seem like KO.

But maybe he's seen what's happened this past week and decided to end the chatter. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

 

[ctchamps]

What in gods name are you trying to say here fleud?

Take this pseudo-intellectual cryptic posting crap to another thread for another day.

I'm saying you're an idiot.

 

[HuskyBoi]

when everyone jumped ship in 2012 we all lost hope but ended up with a chip the year after. this time around i'm not confident at all.

 

[husky429]

If the only news this week is that VJ and SE are leaving, and Chillious is coming in...this is a huge net win.

Seriously, Chillious, Killings, KO, and Moore are going to light up the recruiting trail in ways I don't think we've seen since mid-2000s...and maybe never.

Agreed. Can't wait to see a full recruiting cycle with this group.

Problem is we need success starting next November to get this program back to relevance. Here's to hoping!

 

[HuskyFich]

Another option. But Oz says he just talked to KO about it. To lie to Oz's face doesn't seem like KO.

But maybe he's seen what's happened this past week and decided to end the chatter. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Thank god for that guy Joe D

 

[Robertelamin]

You guys act like it's a sure thing. I'm a realist. If he doesn't, we're f-d. I'm tired of saying wait until next year or worse, "in KO we trust".Sorry, I just vomited in my mouth. To quote Tony Montana, "Who I trust?! Me, that's who!"

I never said it was a sure thing. No one knows. Wait until next season and see what happens.

 

[UCweCONN]

This doesn't get enough attention, and I think it's really important. Geno said the following on one of his SNY shows one time, and it always stuck with me:

"For us, one of the hardest things for us to identify in recruiting is: do we want these parents in our program, yes or no. Sometimes it's not even do we want that kid in our program. Sometimes the kid's not a bad kid. Do we want these parents in our program? And you'd be surprised how many times we say, 'no, we don't.'"

Now, by no means am I suggesting that Kevin's overall recruiting strategy can, or even should, mirror Geno's—they operate in different worlds. I'm saying only that one important factor, to the extent it's predictable, ideally should be the likelihood of parental interference in the program. The wrong parent(s) can cause a lot of problems, and a given recruit may or may not be worth that added trouble.

My daughter is being recruited and all the coaches warn the recruits and parents about how they can cause the coaches to pass on your kid but I really don't think it's true. If you can play, the coaches will put up with anything. Look at Ball at UCLA. I hate Calipari but one thing about him is, you never hear a peep from the parents of his kids on social media or anywhere else.

 

[tzznandrew]

Agreed. Can't wait to see a full recruiting cycle with this group.

Problem is we need success starting next November to get this program back to relevance. Here's to hoping!

KO is a much better coach than Romar with the championship ring to prove it. I mean, when Chillious gets to sell that...

 

[UCweCONN]

Maybe RPs tweet was about Vance.

I think it's about KO.....or a rap lyric.....

 

[Huskyfan4evr]

The more and more I read the more I have to admit although losing someone like VJ will hurt at first I think he can be replaced. So many players and parents now a days are to worried about there own box score not the teams wins and loses. Kids need to realize that not everyone can be "Kemba". Some need to be roll players. It takes a full team to win but not everyone can be in the spotlight. I hope some of the guys that are being mentioned as possible transfers really look in the mirror. Because none are going to be superstars but can help Uconn get better. So many kids now are pre madonna's and don't understand what it means to work through adversity and work harder to make things better without quitting. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

 

[Stainmaster]

It's more of being an absolute condescending doosh any chance you get in the face of a clear and developing pattern over a short timeline.

Then when it turns out you were wrong... you double down.

Clear and developing pattern...are you referring to your neurotic pessimism that's continuously caused you to jump to the worst possible conclusion whenever news about the program breaks over the entirety of the 2 and a half years I've been a member here? Anyone with a brain is concerned about the state of the roster, the one returning player taller than 6'2'' is coming off of a torn ACL and has nothing but unproven JUCOs and freshmen behind him. The different between a sane person and a chicken little is that you seem to be absolutely certain that this is a fatal blow for the program as a whole and that there is no coming back, that Ollie has to be canned immediately, or whatever inane crap is being spewed these days. I think things will turn around at some point, but even I'm not as sure of that as you and your crew seem to be about this program being dead.

As far as me being "wrong?" Impossible to prove at this point in time. Your point of view, on the other hand, doesn't seem to mesh with the notion of bringing a guy like Chillious onto the staff. Surely if there were as much inner turmoil as your tinfoil hat tells you there is, any competent assistant would stay the hell away from Storrs.

 

[tjc1888]

You guys act like it's a sure thing. I'm a realist. If he doesn't, we're f-d. I'm tired of saying wait until next year or worse, "in KO we trust".Sorry, I just vomited in my mouth. To quote Tony Montana, "Who I trust?! Me, that's who!"

Let's get you on the staff!!

 

[tjc1888]

I think it's about KO.....or a rap lyric.....

Go look at TL, JA, and AB's timelines. They all had something to tweet after the announcement. It's about Vance/Vance Sr.......but you being a KO basher probably wouldn't think anything of it.......nope all about KO

 

[Chief00]

Overreact? Why would I? This program is officially dead - Kevin Ollie threw it into a blazing inferno with his failure to utilize Enoch and Jackson correctly, as well as his head-scratching decision to replace Glen Miller. There's nothing left to react about - all you chicken little folks were so right. I'm just coming here to send a few goodbye PMs before migrating over to another team's board. I'm thinking maybe URI?

Wow, your World flipped upside down!