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The off-season isn't done. We don't know what the team is going to look like in a few months. We can hope that Waters decides to come here. Maybe some grad transfers or whatever and we'll assess from there.
 
Hugo said:
First of all, I'm not a whiner. I'm concerned that we are now in what has been called survival mode and I just find this difficult to swallow. How we got into this situation wasn't the point of my post. It was my dismay that we may be in this position and based on some responses there are some posters who believe we are actually in survival mode. This just isn't where I thought we would be at this point in time, so yeah I'm disappointed as all of us should be. However, at some point "another disappointing year" isn't going to cut it.
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You are free to determine what "cuts it" for you. What you are not free to do is ignore the reality of the situation which is that we've had four players leave -- at least 3 unexpectedly -- and have at the moment an 8 man roster which means we have five empty spaces on the bench at a time of year when the vast majority of top high school prospects are already committed. So the reality of the situation is that we need to fill at least most of those spots, and those of us grounded in reality can only judge how we are filling them based on what is currently possible and not what might have been if we were filling them before the first signing period.

So if you want to panic because we may be heading for back to back years that are below our standards, go ahead. But the season is seven months off. Forgive most of us who are focused on how we make lemonaid out of a lemon of a situation while we're making the lemonade. We can then join you in going back to whining about the overall state of the program when we have done the best we can filling our immediate needs.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
Historical precedent is great, but it really depends on the players, and to give you a tautology, different players are different. I happen to like him better at the 3, from what I saw in his brief appearances.
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Why would you even say this? I'd rather wake up to Brooklyn Decker in the morning than my wife. So what?

The only relevant question is whether he can guard a 4 defensively. Because if he can, that is where reality dictates he plays regardless of what you think his best position is.
 
businesslawyer said:
Why would you even say this? I'd rather wake up to Brooklyn Decker in the morning than my wife. So what?

The only relevant question is whether he can guard a 4 defensively. Because if he can, that is where reality dictates he plays regardless of what you think his best position is.
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+1,000
 
businesslawyer said:
Why would you even say this? I'd rather wake up to Brooklyn Decker in the morning than my wife. So what?

The only relevant question is whether he can guard a 4 defensively. Because if he can, that is where reality dictates he plays regardless of what you think his best position is.
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So, I think what you're saying is it depends on matchups and situational effectiveness. We agree, then. I think that's a perfectly reasonable approach. Ollie seems to be trying to construct a team that gives him the flexibility to play with 3 guards and a slim stretch four, or go bigger/stronger with more length and strength inside, depending on matchups. You want your best players on the floor but you can't get burned by matchups because of it.
 
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walkrightier said:
I don't get all the concern about UConn not being Tremont's first choice. Plenty of kids end up going to colleges, including UConn, that aren't there first choice and end up perfectly happy and successful
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The concern is that, in this era where kids transfer at the drop of a hat -- and as we've seen lately, they're not shy about bailing on UConn in particular -- someone who's lukewarm about being here may not be here for long.

That said, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it and I'd much rather have him come here than not.
 
walkrightier said:
I don't get all the concern about UConn not being Tremont's first choice. Plenty of kids end up going to colleges, including UConn, that aren't there first choice and end up perfectly happy and successful
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He wasn't our first choice either. Tremont's first choice was Georgetown. I'd call it a push.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
The concern is that, in this era where kids transfer at the drop of a hat -- and as we've seen lately, they're not shy about bailing on UConn in particular -- someone who's lukewarm about being here may not be here for long.

That said, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it and I'd much rather have him come here than not.
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you make a good point, we were the top choice for Jackson/Enoch/Durham and they all left. We were the second choice for CV and he's still here. So there's no good way of predicting who's gonna be a good fit and not. We are talking about teenagers after all
 
walkrightier said:
you make a good point, we were the top choice for Jackson/Enoch/Durham and they all left. We were the second choice for CV and he's still here. So there's no good way of predicting who's gonna be a good fit and not. We are talking about teenagers after all
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And we were Boat's 3rd choice, Purvis' 2nd choice...and they each stayed 4 years.
 
King Husky said:
Dante Cunningham too, who has made himself a stable NBA player. But I thought Curtis Sumpter was their one big in that lineup?
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Wasn't that the year Sumpter tore his ACL?
 
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the Q said:
2009 and 2016 work well too.
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My point was more that they were an elite 8 team playing 4 guards 6'4 and shorter for 75% of their games.

A hypothetical 3 guard lineup for us next year with Larrier and X Center could still be a very good team if we add some quality depth.
 
UConnStats said:
My point was more that they were an elite 8 team playing 4 guards 6'4 and shorter for 75% of their games.

A hypothetical 3 guard lineup for us next year with Larrier and X Center could still be a very good team if we add some quality depth.
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Definitely ... You're both onto something.

Brunson, Arci, Hart and either Jenkins or another plus ochefu, that's not a monster lineup, but it's effective if everyone actively rebounds.

Much like our 2014 team also.
 
Fishy said:
They do not award style points in recruiting.

Just get Tremont Waters into a UConn uniform.
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That's so true - get him in a uniform. That was a huge mistake we made on Diallo - we had a class schedule without the student.
 
UConnStats said:
My point was more that they were an elite 8 team playing 4 guards 6'4 and shorter for 75% of their games.

A hypothetical 3 guard lineup for us next year with Larrier and X Center could still be a very good team if we add some quality depth.
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And not to start a fire here, but I have a feeling that's a type of team KO would really excel at coaching.
 
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Mr. French said:
Definitely ... You're both onto something.

Brunson, Arci, Hart and either Jenkins or another plus ochefu, that's not a monster lineup, but it's effective if everyone actively rebounds.

Much like our 2014 team also.
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1999, 2011, and 2014 were all somewhat similar.

2004 was a little different.

The one real similarity across all 4?

Multiple ball handlers (99: KEA/Moore, 04: Brown/Gordon, 2011: Kemba/Bazz, 2014: Bazz/Boat)
 
businesslawyer said:
You are free to determine what "cuts it" for you. What you are not free to do is ignore the reality of the situation which is that we've had four players leave -- at least 3 unexpectedly -- and have at the moment an 8 man roster which means we have five empty spaces on the bench at a time of year when the vast majority of top high school prospects are already committed. So the reality of the situation is that we need to fill at least most of those spots, and those of us grounded in reality can only judge how we are filling them based on what is currently possible and not what might have been if we were filling them before the first signing period.

So if you want to panic because we may be heading for back to back years that are below our standards, go ahead. But the season is seven months off. Forgive most of us who are focused on how we make lemonaid out of a lemon of a situation while we're making the lemonade. We can then join you in going back to whining about the overall state of the program when we have done the best we can filling our immediate needs.
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I'm fully aware of the reality of the situation and what limited options are still available. How we got where we are is a whole other topic and where I don't want to go. But, concern which I have is not the same as panic. Maybe you haven't panicked, but you must have concerns re: the current state of the program, regardless of how we got here, as I do and as every poster here does. Lighten up and try not to lecture someone who has the same goals for the program as you do.
 
Mooch82 said:
And we were Boat's 3rd choice, Purvis' 2nd choice...and they each stayed 4 years.
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I get that but they were UConn through and through the second they stepped foot on campus. Who knows with Tremont but I'd still ink him in a second.

On an aside, Boat was a baaad man. I miss him. His senior year is wildly under appreciated because we were incredibly mediocre in '14-15.
 
Hugo said:
I'm fully aware of the reality of the situation and what limited options are still available. How we got where we are is a whole other topic and where I don't want to go. But, concern which I have is not the same as panic. Maybe you haven't panicked, but you must have concerns re: the current state of the program, regardless of how we got here, as I do and as every poster here does. Lighten up and try not to lecture someone who has the same goals for the program as you do.
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I will make my point once. What is this thread? Is it about the program? No. It's about trying to reel in a recruit who wasn't interested in us once but that we now need much more than when he turned us down the first time. There are plenty of threads for you and anyone else to express fear, disapproval and/or disappointment over the direction of the program. But as we need a lot of recruits in a very short period of time, I don't think it's unreasonable that some of us will want to discuss one or more recruits in a recruiting thread without having to wade through comments having nothing to do about this recruit or even our spring recruiting but everything to do with disappointment as a whole.

I don't think I can say it more clearly than that. You can do with it as you wish.
 
Nothing really new here, but there is clarification on which schools have contacted Tremont or his dad:

Jordan Brand Classic: Tremont Waters testing the recruiting waters again

Waters, a point guard from Notre Dame (West Haven, Conn.), obtained his release from his National Letter of Intent to Georgetown before John Thompson III was fired. The Hoyas, under new coach Patrick Ewing, are back in the running. Waters said that Connecticut, Syracuse, Creighton and Kansas have contacted Waters or his father since his NLI release.

“Creighton is the only one of those who messaged me,” he said. “All the rest have contacted my dad. I have to sit down with my dad to see who’s saying what, but I do want to make the decision as soon as possible.”
 
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