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Cooley should have them in the tournament next year. They're a good group of players, and, depending on the seeding, could win a game or two.

I like UConn's team much better than PC's, but I think PC should be good, and should be in the tournament. I think UConn should be Top 15 all year, and PC fringe Top 25.

Good luck next year. Hopefully we can get Chukwu and Abu to come to UConn, but Cooley can obviously recruit pretty darn well (and, for Chukwu, so can Lavin), so it will be a battle.
 
Finally, ESPN has updated Chukwu's profile!
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...g/player/evaluation/_/id/142383/pascal-chukwu
I'm guessing his weight is a typo at 202 lbs! Probably meant 220 lbs.
Scouting Report
ESPN Analyst
Updated 06/17/2013
Strengths:
Chukwu's size and length are his most obvious assets, but he also has a great pair of feet for a guy his size, giving him outstanding agility and mobility to cover the court. He's an excellent shot-blocker whose ability to change direction only makes him that much more dangerous patrolling the paint and protecting the rim from wide radius's. He's also a diligent rebounder who is content to dominate a game on the defensive end. While he doesn't need a ton of touches to stay engaged, Chukwu has tools to work with in a soft touch, a passer's instinct, fairly good hands, and the ability to change ends of the floor.
Weaknesses:
Physical strength is his top priority right now. His lean body type and high center of gravity make it difficult for him to hold his position against contact at times. His defense is far ahead of his offense right now. He needs to become a more consistent finisher at the rim, establish a go-to move with his back to the basket, and begin to learn how to play pick and roll.
Bottom Line:
He needs to get stronger and develop his offensive game, but this is a seven-footer who can anchor your team defensively, will give you a diligent effort, and has tools to continue to develop in the years to come.
 
tzznandrew said:
Cooley should have them in the tournament next year. They're a good group of players, and, depending on the seeding, could win a game or two.

I like UConn's team much better than PC's, but I think PC should be good, and should be in the tournament. I think UConn should be Top 15 all year, and PC fringe Top 25.

Good luck next year. Hopefully we can get Chukwu and Abu to come to UConn, but Cooley can obviously recruit pretty darn well (and, for Chukwu, so can Lavin), so it will be a battle.
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You know as a Friar fan we have to temper our recruiting expectations a bit. Cooley is obviously fearless and goes after anyone, but outside of us battling you and others for a couple kids you know about we are also a finalist for Jalen Lindsey a top 25 5 star out of Tennessee (he just did an official to PC, but the competition is stiff, Louisville, Tennesee, etc...) and 6'9" Myles Carter out of Chicago that has us up against Mich State, Duke, Florida, Illinois and Marquette. Duke's Scout site did an article today and the kid said that PC is his favorite right now because of Cooley.

My point in all this and I appreciate your post is that if UConn was involved with these two kids there would be reasonable expectations to land them. Until Cooley pulls a star from Chicago or the south and say a Chukwu, Abu, or Terrell then UConn fans have every right to assume things are the same, but if he can start getting these kids then short of actual tournament success we can start saying that PC has stepped up to the next level.
 
seanmc94 said:
You guys can't have it both ways. Either injuries count or they don't. Shabazz was as gimpy as Cotton was. The only guy that was injured that would have been a factor in the Gampel game was Calhoun. The front court guys are pretty interchangeable; and I would argue the depletions actually helped DD realize that he needed to be more assertive.

As far as programs go; there is no comparison. What I contend, and you guys never concede is that EC has PC playing a lot closer to where UCONN currently is than you care to admit. It's why guys like Dunn, Ledo and Austin chose PC over UConn. It's why the big fella may.
The landscape has changed. UCONN is still a top program; but the guy who won 3 NCs ain't walking through that door. Will Ollie succeed; my money would bet that he does. Buy does that mean NCs? It's tough to do. Time will tell.
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I actually think Providence was closest to UConn around 03' when you guys had Gomes, McGrath, and Brewington.
 
seanmc94 said:
You guys can't have it both ways. Either injuries count or they don't. Shabazz was as gimpy as Cotton was. The only guy that was injured that would have been a factor in the Gampel game was Calhoun. The front court guys are pretty interchangeable; and I would argue the depletions actually helped DD realize that he needed to be more assertive.

As far as programs go; there is no comparison. What I contend, and you guys never concede is that EC has PC playing a lot closer to where UCONN currently is than you care to admit. It's why guys like Dunn, Ledo and Austin chose PC over UConn. It's why the big fella may.
The landscape has changed. UCONN is still a top program; but the guy who won 3 NCs ain't walking through that door. Will Ollie succeed; my money would bet that he does. Buy does that mean NCs? It's tough to do. Time will tell.
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Injuries matter, of course they do. UConn beat PC while playing 6 guys. PC lost to UMass and PSU. Wins and losses also count.

As to your assertion about Calhoun being the only guy that would have been a factor, that's a joke. Giffey was/is a very important player and would have been a factor.

EC had PC closer to UConn last year than most years. Whether that was because PC is truly on the upswing or UConn had a bump on the road with the coaching transition/NCAA penalty, that remains to be seen.

On the court, UConn had the better record, the better quality wins and two head to head victories. While UConn would have been an NCAAT team (4-9 seed depending on theoretical BET results), PC was an NIT and not even that close to the NCAAT bubble. Basically, even while closer, the gap is still quite big, even in Cooley's best year at PC (so far).

As for recruiting, PC has had some nice wins with Dunn and Austin, but they also had Coleman not that long ago. Ledo never played for PC, so I don't know how to factor him.

UConn picked up Calhoun instead of Dunn, and personally I throw 2013 recruiting battles almost out the window with the coaching transition and Ollie's contract. Cooley got Austin, but it's impossible to know what Austin would have done if Ollie were on a long-term contract.

Considering UConn has Purvis coming in/playing and Hamilton committed for 2014, I think Ollie is off to a great recruiting start, not to mention Facey, Samuel, Brimah and Kromah coming in this year.

As for next year, PC has a good amount of talent on paper, but they also have a ton of unknowns. Can Austin acclimate to college BBall quickly? Will Harris or Derosiers provide anything more than the limited stats they put up on their old teams? Batts and Cotton are solid starting blocks and Dunn should be able to improve some, but filling Council's shoes may not be easy.

UConn returns pretty much everyone. UConn only loses Evans and maybe Wolf. They replace Evans with Samuel and Kromah. They replace Wolf with Facey and Brimah.

How many non-NCAAT years does Cooley have at PC before he is canned?
 
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caw said:
Injuries matter, of course they do. UConn beat PC while playing 6 guys. PC lost to UMass and PSU. Wins and losses also count.

As to your assertion about Calhoun being the only guy that would have been a factor, that's a joke. Giffey was/is a very important player and would have been a factor.

EC had PC closer to UConn last year than most years. Whether that was because PC is truly on the upswing or UConn had a bump on the road with the coaching transition/NCAA penalty, that remains to be seen.

On the court, UConn had the better record, the better quality wins and two head to head victories. While UConn would have been an NCAAT team (4-9 seed depending on theoretical BET results), PC was an NIT and not even that close to the NCAAT bubble. Basically, even while closer, the gap is still quite big, even in Cooley's best year at PC (so far).

As for recruiting, PC has had some nice wins with Dunn and Austin, but they also had Coleman not that long ago. Ledo never played for PC, so I don't know how to factor him.

UConn picked up Calhoun instead of Dunn, and personally I throw 2013 recruiting battles almost out the window with the coaching transition and Ollie's contract. Cooley got Austin, but it's impossible to know what Austin would have done if Ollie were on a long-term contract.

Considering UConn has Purvis coming in/playing and Hamilton committed for 2014, I think Ollie is off to a great recruiting start, not to mention Facey, Samuel, Brimah and Kromah coming in this year.

As for next year, PC has a good amount of talent on paper, but they also have a ton of unknowns. Can Austin acclimate to college BBall quickly? Will Harris or Derosiers provide anything more than the limited stats they put up on their old teams? Batts and Cotton are solid starting blocks and Dunn should be able to improve some, but filling Council's shoes may not be easy.

UConn returns pretty much everyone. UConn only loses Evans and maybe Wolf. They replace Evans with Samuel and Kromah. They replace Wolf with Facey and Brimah.

How many non-NCAAT years does Cooley have at PC before he is canned?
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You had me until the final sentence? Really? If you were objective, what grade would you have given Cooley? Do you know what state the program was in when he took over? Consecutive terrible results, terrible APR, terrible recruiting, last place finishes and two friggin players in jail for an horrific on campus beating of a fellow student. Just absolute shambles, the fact that we were picked for dead last or next to dead last by the coaches but went 9-9 and into the quarter finals of the NIT was a massive accomplishment.
 
Fishy said:
Thank God we've managed to carve out a little space for another UConn/Providence debate.

It seems like the last one was so long ago and was never really resolved.
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Wait until these kids actually choose a school, then we will really be having some fun.
 
FriarJ said:
You had me until the final sentence? Really? If you were objective, what grade would you have given Cooley? Do you know what state the program was in when he took over? Consecutive terrible results, terrible APR, terrible recruiting, last place finishes and two friggin players in jail for an horrific on campus beating of a fellow student. Just absolute shambles, the fact that we were picked for dead last or next to dead last by the coaches but went 9-9 and into the quarter finals of the NIT was a massive accomplishment.
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I'm aware. At the same time, how many years does PC stick with him if he doesn't deliver NCAAT appearances? If he is the coach/recruiter you all think he is, he should get some soon. So how long does PC wait if he doesn't make it this year or next?

I personally think PC has the talent to be at least a bubble team this year and probably should have been on last year if not for injuries to start the season.
 
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I'm no defender of PC at all, but anyone who brings up their early season losses when a good chunk of their team was hurt as anything more than some fun ribbing is being disingenuous. Look how bad we looked against South Florida when we didn't have Shabazz or Giffey and Omar was hurt. When Providence got healthy, they were a good team, and played us very close twice. We could have lost either one of those games. Now, keeping in mind that PC lost more talent than us, I'd say the gap has widened a bit more this year, but they're still likely going to be a legitimate contender for the NCAAs.
 
caw said:
I'm aware. At the same time, how many years does PC stick with him if he doesn't deliver NCAAT appearances? If he is the coach/recruiter you all think he is, he should get some soon. So how long does PC wait if he doesn't make it this year or next?

I personally think PC has the talent to be at least a bubble team this year and probably should have been on last year if not for injuries to start the season.
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That's a tough question to answer because of his new contract extension. He's in the 2 mil per area now. If we don't make it next year or the year after we are up doo doo creek anyway. To turn the corner we need to make it soon. year one; significant improvement, record improved, and the best part our defense was not the laughingstock of college basketball, year two; another large leap of improvement including a trip to the NIT, year three; I'm saying we make the NCAA.

All you can ask for is improvement and it's been there in recruiting, in character and in record, now is the time to make the next step. The timing is like many coaches. 3rd year is key; ask Jim Calhoun.
 
We wish you the best of luck in the shadow of the old Big East Conference.
 
I think everyone's getting confused here. PC stands for paschal chukwu in this thread, not that other school that likes to think of us as rivals
 
huskiesNhoos said:
I think everyone's getting confused here. PC stands for paschal chukwu in this thread, not that other school that likes to think of us as rivals
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We are rivals, you just don't know it yet :) . If PC gets Chukwu; would it be time to start considering PC rivals? Or do we have to win a NC to get to that level?
 
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FriarJ said:
We are rivals, you just don't know it yet :) . If PC gets Chukwu; would it be time to start considering PC rivals? Or do we have to win a NC to get to that level?
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NC? How about winning a tournament game. Just one.
 
FriarJ said:
Excellent, that's what I'm looking for. I do agree that Napier is the best all around player on either team and that UConn has more experience in big games as someone mentioned in another post.

I do have 2 comments in regards to PC. Council was a terrible defender and he could not get the Keno out of him in late in games where he felt he had to take over all the time. I'm looking for big time improvement from Dunn this year and we should have a decent backcourt. While we do return Batts and Henton upfront we also add 7' Carson Derosiers and 6'10" Tyler Harris. Not sure what to expect out of these kids but Harris has supposedly put on a few lbs. and will be a large contributor this year. If UConn is a final four team (could be) then PC is certainly a tourney team in my eyes.
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Forgot about Derosiers - he's a solid addition. I got the chance to see him play quite frequently when he was in high school, and although the competition wasn't the stiffest, he exhibited an advanced skill set for a center his age. He had a nice touch inside the paint, and had the ability to step out and knock down threes. He struggled at Wake Forrest, but it's unclear how much of that can be attributed to the horrific situation he was thrown into. With some added muscle and confidence, I see no reason he can't at least be a solid rim protecting center off the bench who has the ability to go for 10-15 points occasionally.

As for Dunn, your season may well hinge on his development. He did a lot of nice things a year ago - he was a plus defender and excellent rebounder, but his offensive game lagged behind on the development curve. I believe you'll have enough in Henton, Batts, and Cotton to dance with or without major offensive contributions from Dunn, but you'll certainly need him and Austin to play with poise beyond their years if you're expecting any sort of deep run.
 
FriarJ said:
We are rivals, you just don't know it yet :) . If PC gets Chukwu; would it be time to start considering PC rivals? Or do we have to win a NC to get to that level?
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Bottom line, FriarJ is to get a guy like Chuckwu, and make the tourney (let alone win a game or two there). Then Mr. Cooley & PC will get
ultimate respect on this board.
 
Yonick said:
Bottom line, FriarJ is to get a guy like Chuckwu, and make the tourney (let alone win a game or two there). Then Mr. Cooley & PC will get
ultimate respect on this board.
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If a coach wins at PC, he is gone. Gone. Gone.
 
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Cooley is a R.I. guy. If he's successful it''ll take more to lure him away, than usual.
 
Still want Oubre.......2 scorers like he and Hamilton on the floor would be a tremendous plus for the Huskies. They could play 2-3 or even 3-4 at times as Oubre is a rebounder.....

Oubre, Abu, Chukwu and 1 of the PG's.........big class coming!!;)
 
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