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It's easily the hardest course I have ever played, and all the more brutal for the open. You just can't go for the flag on any hole except the par 3 9th which is unique, there are two tee boxes that the USGA will have the players use. First of all they are both 200+ from the cup but one is 100 feet above the hole and the other is 20 feet below the pin. There will probably be at least one or two holes in one on the hole. There has never been a hole like this in any open.

There is also a massive bunker in the middle of the fairway on 18 that you need a ladder to get in and out of. It's 11 feet deep.

The one tree is on the nicest hole on the course it's called the lone fir that was left there when the course was built. Some idiot tried to chop it down when the course was built but they brought in all these tree experts, built literally a metal splint to strengthen it and saved the damn thing. It's # 15 par 3.

http://wolberts.com/212-2/216-2/chambers-bay-lone-fir-restoration-project/

You are going to have some good golfers hit great 2nd shots and end up with a terrible lie and lose their minds. You can count on it.

You think very long rounds? Someone winning who is a little seasoned? Older and with patience?
 
I read somewhere that the tee boxes are not level...that seems evil.
 
You think very long rounds? Someone who is a little seasoned?older and with patience?
I honestly think the cream will rise to the top. The best players in the world will be there at the end. You might have some lesser known player shoot a nice round and lead for a bit but they will blow up as the course changes from day to day. In the end on a course this hard it will be the best fighting it out. I'm predicting anywhere from -2 to +1 win it with a legitimate shot at an 18 hole playoff on Monday. I just don't expect anyone to run away with this. Should be just a fabulous tournament to watch with Fox having spent the GDP of a small nation to broadcast it coming up with some unique coverage as well.
 
I read somewhere that the tee boxes are not level...that seems evil.
Nothing on the damn course is level, when I joked that I turned my caddy Juan during one round into a sherpa I was not kidding. I have played it multiple times and was exhausted each time without carrying my own clubs.
 
What - nobody has Tiger? I really want to be bold and say Tiger wins, but I just can't. Sticking with Rory - best player in the world on what is essentially an English course.
 
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I will always root for Tiger, but I'm not going to put money on it until he proves himself again.
 
Would love to see Tiger win but he can't hit it straight off the tee and it's almost 7900 yards. Hard fairway or not he can't hit a stinger all day there too long.

Having said that hope an American can hang in there, could be a place for a DJ or Koepka or even Ricky as he's added length. Have to go with Euro W though their kid of venue and they've been doing it to us for a while consistently.

Justin Rose
 
I got into a pool at Elmcrest CC. It's set up where you pick one player from each of four groups. Everyone and their brother was picking Spieth, Rory, and Phil. I went a little outside the box with Justin Rose, Jason Day, G-Mac, and Kevin Na.
Day and G-Mac have not been playing their best golf lately, but from the looks of this course, anything can happen.
 
My picks for my contest:

Fowler, Mickelson, Angel Cabrera, Snedeker, Horschel, and Glover
 
I do a pool with my friends in which you have to select 3 golfers from the top 20 world rankings and then 3 from the rest of the field. My picks are:

Rickie Fowler
Justin Rose
Dustin Johnson

Brandt Snedeker
Zach Johnson
Francesco Molinari
Love these picks.

Fowler, DJ, Hideki and Brandt are mine. Dark horses are Ryan Moore and Byeong-Hun An.

Course is beautiful, just hope it is not gimmicky and the USGA didnt overthink it.
 
The narrative on Sunday afternoon will be the player/caddy team that has the most amount of trust between them. The winner will be a "cerebral" golfer. None of them have enough rounds on the course to know all the nooks and crannies and awkward positions. The player who can figure out the course the fastest has a leg up. Players and caddies are going to have trust numbers and work as a team.

I don't know which player/caddy combos are considered the best teams, but if I had that type of information, I'd be dumping my money on a few of them.
 
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The narrative on Sunday afternoon will be the player/caddy team that has the most amount of trust between them. The winner will be a "cerebral" golfer. None of them have enough rounds on the course to know all the nooks and crannies and awkward positions. The player who can figure out the course the fastest has a leg up. Players and caddies are going to have trust numbers and work as a team.

I don't know which player/caddy combos are considered the best teams, but if I had that type of information, I'd be dumping my money on a few of them.
Jordan Spieth's caddy was a caddy at Chambers Bay for years. He is from the area.
 
Fox getting the US Open sucks, the coverage has been awful. Never thought I would miss Johnny Miller, but I do.

I have seen like 3 or 4 occasions where the graphic said it was the player's wrong number of shots.
 
It's time for Tiger to either find a new swing coach or put away the golf clubs for good. He has totally lost his game, like David Duval.
 
Tiger's drop in on course performance is most likely the greatest drop off in sports' history. Maybe, and this is a bit before my time, Willie Mays playing for the Mets or Ali's fight against Larry Holmes are the only two comparisons that are even close.

Tiger has gone from being one of the top two golfers of all time to a player who isn't even close to making cuts. His physical ailments and personal life isn't unique compared to other athletes. Other greats have overcome them and returned to a respectable level before dropping off but Tiger is completely gone. Pretty soon he's going to become Eldrick Woods again.
 
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Tiger looked to be under control with his swing on the practice tee when he was hitting long irons and driver. He can't bring it to the course now - mentally he is a broken man, it's beyond comprehension. The best ever to a guy who's only hope of even getting close to par is 9-10 great par saves a round. He is never in play and even off the first tee when he was his swing with his 6 iron got caught back and he jabbed it in the ground, nothing like I have ever seen (except with myself of course).

Joe Buck was totally ridiculous on how much he concentrated on it though he was awful quite honestly. Almost as if he really despised him and was very happy to see the demise. Not at all a fan of Buck anyway but he's not Nantz or any of the regulars when it comes to golf. Norman was ok, Pavin - eh. Rather listen to Chamblee, Duval and that team on GC.
 
I don't know what was more embarrasing ,the fox golf telecast or the bumpy greens. I thought the trains going by the course and scenery were pretty cool, though. There should be higher scores and more train wrecks, today.
 
Tiger has gone from being one of the top two golfers of all time to a player who isn't even close to making cuts.

Tiger made the cut in the previous three tournaments he played in... Masters, Players, Memorial...

Yeah, he's not playing well, but where do people get these facts from?
 
His physical ailments and personal life isn't unique compared to other athletes.
Just no.
His personal life is bizarre and unique and unprecedented. Heart of his career, married to gorgeous woman, beautiful kids, most dominant player in his game, ever, and it's not close, gets caught banging dog-ugly skanks and grade-D starletts, gets dumped, loses family, loses game, loses life. What other athlete's path remotely nears that?
 
I love watching golf played on the West Coast. How great is it to watch the US Open Live at 9pm after the kids and wife are asleep?
 
Tiger looked to be under control with his swing on the practice tee when he was hitting long irons and driver. He can't bring it to the course now.

Funny but you just decribed perhaps most amateurs, certainly myself.
 
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With all the issues players are having with Poa Ana on the greens, seems possible the Sunday afternoon leaders might be backing up to the pack come crunch time. All accounts suggest the afternoon putting is much worse than morning putting sooner after greens have been cut.
 
Just no.
His personal life is bizarre and unique and unprecedented. Heart of his career, married to gorgeous woman, beautiful kids, most dominant player in his game, ever, and it's not close, gets caught banging dog-ugly skanks and grade-D smut starletts, gets dumped, loses family, loses game, loses life. What other athlete's path remotely nears that?


That sounds a bit like Mike Tyson but plenty of players have gone through divorces while in the prime of their careers and that's my point. The ability to carry on within your sport while you have personal issues off of it.

Think DiMaggio didn't have some off the field issues while married to Marilyn Monroe?

Even Jason Dufner went through a major slump after winning the PGA thanks to a combination of injuries and his wife divorcing him.
 
I love watching golf played on the West Coast. How great is it to watch the US Open Live at 9pm after the kids and wife are asleep?

Love it. Either the US Open or PGA Championship should be on the west coast every year.
 
I don't think Tiger Woods' personal life is all that unique, at least in terms of the shenanigans.

Nor do I think it affects his game.

The health problems surely do - the constant tinkering doesn't seem to help, either.

But I wonder if he isn't better off starting to play golf every week like, you know, a professional golfer?

Showing up once a month doesn't seem to be working out very well.
 
I love watching golf played on the West Coast. How great is it to watch the US Open Live at 9pm after the kids and wife are asleep?

It's awesome.

I'm not even a huge golf fan, but having bonus sports on television like that is great.
 
It's awesome.

I'm not even a huge golf fan, but having bonus sports on television like that is great.


Networks love the 5-6 hours of prime time television on normally dead weekends in the summer.
 
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