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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

CL82 said:
The knee-jerk defense of every failure:
"Well we did all we could."

How do we know that? Well, because something we wanted to happen didn't happen and claiming that you "did all you could" sounds better than "we were not successful."

I'm not saying Dave could've done more, I'm just saying a sad face with the quote "we did all we could" is the family crest of failure.
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That sounds like a Linkedin Post telling me to embrace failure.

There is nothing more that UConn can do. When you say, doing all he can, that means that the decision is not in your hands and you have pulled out all your leverage and there are no more cards to play.

Y’all act like UConn got out manuevered, something that is a self serving vignette from
Tom Jurich and Chris Conte.

They didn't do any more than Warde Manuel or Jeff Hathaway, they just created this mythology.

The fact is no one wants UConn. It is cultural, geographical, financial, political reasons.

All 4 don't work in UConn’s favor and there has yet to be a conference that satisfies all four of this ‘als.
 
JohnFSilver said:
That sounds like a Linkedin Post telling me to embrace failure.

There is nothing more that UConn can do. When you say, doing all he can, that means that the decision is not in your hands and you have pulled out all your leverage and there are no more cards to play.

Y’all act like UConn got out manuevered, something that is a self serving vignette from
Tom Jurich and Chris Conte.

They didn't do any more than Warde Manuel or Jeff Hathaway, they just created this mythology.

The fact is no one wants UConn. It is cultural, geographical, financial, political reasons.

All 4 don't work in UConn’s favor and there has yet to be a conference that satisfies all four of this ‘als.
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Lol, sorry to have touched a nerve John. It wasn't a personal commentary on you and heck wasn't even a commentary on Benedict. It was a commentary on the use of the phrase "oh well, he did all he could" As a de facto excuse for failure.

Bottom line, you have no idea whether or not Benedict, or anyone else did "everything they could do" to advert failure. Suggesting to the contrary is just an example of the intuitive social phenomena toward consolation. I'm not being critical of it, I'm just pointing it out for what it is.

(PS do people actually post on your LinkedIn telling you to accept failure? )
 
CL82 said:
Lol, sorry to have touched a nerve John. It wasn't a personal commentary on you and heck wasn't even a commentary on Benedict. It was a commentary on the use of the phrase "oh well, he did all he could" As a de facto excuse for failure.

Bottom line, you have no idea whether or not Benedict, or anyone else did "everything they could do" to advert failure. Suggesting to the contrary is just an example of the intuitive social phenomena toward consolation. I'm not being critical of it, I'm just pointing it out for what it is.

(PS do people actually post on your LinkedIn telling you to accept failure? )
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Linkedin has a bunch of these types of anecdotes that get pushed to your feed. "Strive through adversity" and all that...
 
John said:
Syracuse, Louisville
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They were in the Big East when they won and it was part of the BCS, forerunner of the P5. Plus they ended up in a P4 league now. You could even say that about our 2004 and 2011 titles. We were in a BCS league which was the equivalent of the P leagues today.
 
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huskymedic said:
Long read:
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From the article…..

“Phillips said that could include negotiating for (among other things) better time slots for ACC games; putting more ACC games on the network’s top channels, instead of the ACC Network…”

How can ESPN give the ACC better time slots? Those go to the SEC. They spent a lot of money on the SEC and the SEC gets much higher ratings than the ACC. No way will Boston College @ Cal have a better channel/time slot than any SEC game.
 
Rufus said:
From the article…..

“Phillips said that could include negotiating for (among other things) better time slots for ACC games; putting more ACC games on the network’s top channels, instead of the ACC Network…”

How can ESPN give the ACC better time slots? Those go to the SEC. They spent a lot of money on the SEC and the SEC gets much higher ratings than the ACC. No way will Boston College @ Cal have a better channel/time slot than any SEC game.
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Because "could" commits you to nothing.
 
Rufus said:
From the article…..

“Phillips said that could include negotiating for (among other things) better time slots for ACC games; putting more ACC games on the network’s top channels, instead of the ACC Network…”

How can ESPN give the ACC better time slots? Those go to the SEC. They spent a lot of money on the SEC and the SEC gets much higher ratings than the ACC. No way will Boston College @ Cal have a better channel/time slot than any SEC game.
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The two key media products for the ACC are men's basketball and football. Basketball can probably get some good time slots if the ACC schools improve their basketball product. UNC/Duke will always be a top drawer, but too many of the ACC schools (Louisville, Syracuse, Pitt, Wake Forest,...) are in a depressed state. And, ESPN also has Big 12 (partial) and SEC basketball and they have some top teams as well. In football, the ACC faces a worse situation as ESPN has rights to the SEC and some of the Big 12 as well as the ACC. There are just not enough time slots on the top channels. And, the ACCN is a captive cable channel which is hanging on for dear life as the cable bundles unravels. If you take good games off the ACCN, how will it survive in the unbundled world?
 
There were two key pieces of information that are in the article:

1) The ACC grant of rights has 2 parts:

a) The base media deal runs until 2027 with an extension option to 2036. Look in is February 2025.

b) The ACCN media deal which runs to 2036.

2) The ACC is looking at reducing their basketball conference schedule from 20 to 18 games. Why? To get more impactful OOC basketball games.


Reading the article, Phillips is talking confidently, but he has little or no control or input into what is going on in college athletics right now.
 
UConnJim said:
There were two key pieces of information that are in the article:

1) The ACC grant of rights has 2 parts:

a) The base media deal runs until 2027 with an extension option to 2036. Look in is February 2025.

b) The ACCN media deal which runs to 2036.

2) The ACC is looking at reducing their basketball conference schedule from 20 to 18 games. Why? To get more impactful OOC basketball games.


Reading the article, Phillips is talking confidently, but he has little or no control or input into what is going on in college athletics right now.
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An easy fix for #2: bring in UConn et voila everyone gets 1-2 top end games with no scheduling difficulty.
 
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The "monitoring" reference relates to the dreaded second snub by the ACC in 2012. Do you remember who said he was "monitoring" the replacement process upon Maryland 's departure from the ACC? We had a tough sell and got completely outflanked by LV. Benedict is head and shoulders above that guy and I hope he is indefatigable in his pursuit of decent conference affiliation for us.

Sadly, it appears that our only path out of "athletic department deficit hell" is selling our BB dominance. Can it work? I hope so, because no doubt the P-2 or 4 Is going to take a run at BB monetization.

If it's limited to the 70 schools mentioned in the WVU/Syracuse proposal, we get left out of BB too?
Think of all the schools in that group of 70 that have not accomplished anything in FB or BB. Hopefully, our BB can make a difference for us - maybe save the whole damn day!
 
EdgewoodNHV said:
Why would the SEC/B1G do this? It literally gives them nothing. They already print money. They control their own destiny. Why give away money to Private Equity?

They've already won. There's no need for them to change anyt

Because the SEC and BIG don't control BB. Think of Kansas, Baylor, Houston etc from the Big 12. Think of Duke, UNC, UVA, NCST, etc from the ACC. Think of Nova etc from the BE. Gonzaga, UCSD etc out west. Throw in UConn and the P-2 doesn't measure up in BB. They would be decent, but consider that the P-2 has won only 4 titles since we won our first.
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LoyalFanCT said:
No way B12 or ACC are top basketball conference without UConn as a member!
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The metrics that folks around here love to cite have the Big12 as the best conference, and yes, having UConn in that conference would launch them into the stratosphere.
 
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Fishy said:
This proposal is nonsense.
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For over 20 years I have been telling the Boneyard that the entire college sports enterprise, as structured through the conferences, is an anti-trust violation, and until about 3 years ago almost everyone on this board, including several lawyers, argued with me about it. Who turned out to be right? Has the NCAA or P4/5 ever won a serious anti-trust case? This House case is a surrender before they even go to court.

The SEC and Big 10's power play makes their anti-trust problem worse, not better. They have two choices: 1) come to an accommodation with colleges that allows for some kind of competitive parity, or 2) stay in their anti-competitive posture which will result in them getting hammered in court and potentially destroying college sports as an entertainment industry.

I know which I would choose if I were them.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
No way B12 or ACC are top basketball conference without UConn as a member!
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There is a difference between being the best conference which arguably is the ACC on a year in year out basis and having the best team in any given year. It isn’t a perfect measure but if you look a Final Fours, the ACC seems to have teams almost every year. And it isn’t just 1 team. UNC, Duke, Virginia, Miami, Syracuse and NC State have all made the final four. The last 10 tournaments,2014-2024 no 2020, ACC teams have made the Final Four 7 times. They have had 2 teams make it twice, and 6 different teams got there. 3 different teams have won the title. That suggests a league that is deep in quality on regular basis.

In any given year a conference can be up or down, but I think NCAA tournament final four runs by multiple teams indicates that the league is deeper than others.

Being the best league does not mean you have the best team. Over that same period UConn it could be argued was the best team. Even if it was playing in lesser conferences. Nobody would argue that the AAC > ACC. Even the biggest NEWBE fans would be hard pressed to argue that it is superior to the ACC, though no doubt some would try. I am not sold on the Big 12. It is also a bit tricky to evaluate them. Oklahoma made the Final Four from the B12 but isn’t there any more. Houston made it from the AAC but is now in the B12. But I don’t think it is as good as the ACC. In any given year, sure, but over time, the ACC is still #1.
 
CL82 said:
The knee-jerk defense of every failure:
"Well we did all we could."

How do we know that? Well, because something we wanted to happen didn't happen and claiming that you "did all you could" sounds better than "we were not successful."

I'm not saying Dave could've done more, I'm just saying a sad face with the quote "we did all we could" is the family crest of failure.
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What do you do when the girl says that she doesn’t want to go out with you?
 
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CL82 said:
The knee-jerk defense of every failure:
"Well we did all we could."

How do we know that? Well, because something we wanted to happen didn't happen and claiming that you "did all you could" sounds better than "we were not successful."

I'm not saying Dave could've done more, I'm just saying a sad face with the quote "we did all we could" is the family crest of failure.
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Add to that to paraphrase, it was an honor to be nominated.
 
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