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Rdkid said:
Make the case against the profligate build, sure. Crapping on the sport - especially when we’ve been good with poor facilities (this goes for several non-revenue sports) - is where we’ll part ways. There is a more direct line for a good facility and winning hockey (and I’m not invested in hockey) than taking that money (however that would work) and putting it into football infrastructure, such as coaches and staff. The track record on salary to performance for football assistants is not great, as has been bandied about ad nauseum this season. I think the case has been made for going 6-6 this year with the resources we have. And putting that 70 mil into The Rent or and other bricks & mortar doesn’t get you a win moving forward. The road forward is stable AD/state support and NIL. We don’t have to beggar other winning programs any more than we historically have.
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I honestly doubt that Hockey even loses money. Hockey East does get some TV money, we draw pretty well and travel is via bus to almost every game. Hockey was a smart investment that should have been made 20 years earlier.

Baseball is tough because we are good, and built another new stadium for it, but it will be so hard to compete going forward. Soccer is saddest, because we used to be very very good and now we suck. Another new stadium built for that too.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I honestly doubt that Hockey even loses money. Hockey East does get some TV money, we draw pretty well and travel is via bus to almost every game. Hockey was a smart investment that should have been made 20 years earlier.

Baseball is tough because we are good, and built another new stadium for it, but it will be so hard to compete going forward. Soccer is saddest, because we used to be very very good and now we suck. Another new stadium built for that too.
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Why is it going to be hard to compete for baseball?

Soccer desperately needs a new coach. Yes, I know this is only year one of the post Ray Reid era, but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen until we get new coaching in. Unfortunately that's at least a year away, and perhaps two.
 
CL82 said:
Why is it going to be hard to compete for baseball?

Soccer desperately needs a new coach. Yes, I know this is only year one of the post Ray Reid era, but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen until we get new coaching in. Unfortunately that's at least a year away, and perhaps two.
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Because it is already hard in the northeast and once all the P4 schools are sending money to kids, which we can't afford to do, we are going to struggle to recruit.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Because it is already hard in the northeast and once all the P4 schools are sending money to kids, which we can't afford to do, we are going to struggle to recruit.
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Shrugs. This is always going to be a money game. If we commit to paying players, we will be fine for a while. I don't see this being as big an issue as getting sufficient NL for baseball
 
tzznandrew said:
Most of this is Stop.

But it seems quite obvious UNC and Virginia are the biggest prizes left.They have hugely successful athletic departments and are flagship programs in states that neither the SEC nor the B1G are in.
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I do agree that UVA and UNC are attractive potential additions, but I think this is the old way of thinking about conference expansion. In the long run, the captive cable bundle is going away so adding geographies won't increase the value of a conference network, but brands will enhance value. Of the remaining non-P2 football brands, the most valuable football brands are Notre Dame, Florida State, and Clemson. Think about this, which football game would have more interest and have better ratings? Florida/Florida St. or Florida/Virginia?
 
UConnJim said:
I do agree that UVA and UNC are attractive potential additions, but I think this is the old way of thinking about conference expansion. In the long run, the captive cable bundle is going away so adding geographies won't increase the value of a conference network, but brands will enhance value. Of the remaining non-P2 football brands, the most valuable football brands are Notre Dame, Florida State, and Clemson. Think about this, which football game would have more interest and have better ratings? Florida/Florida St. or Florida/Virginia?
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While I see you're point, at some point the SEC has to realize that not everyone in that league can succeed in football. Virginia and UNC would give them a major presence in critical recruiting markets and potentially add a lot of $ in basketball. I wouldn't even be shocked if they took Duke at some point to add a second private to pair with Vandy.
 
champs99and04 said:
While I see your point, at some point the SEC has to realize that not everyone in that league can succeed in football. Virginia and UNC would give them a major presence in critical recruiting markets and potentially add a lot of $ in basketball. I wouldn't even be shocked if they took Duke at some point to add a second private to pair with Vandy.
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I think UNC and UVA are better for the B1G than SEC
 
UConnJim said:
I do agree that UVA and UNC are attractive potential additions, but I think this is the old way of thinking about conference expansion. In the long run, the captive cable bundle is going away so adding geographies won't increase the value of a conference network, but brands will enhance value. Of the remaining non-P2 football brands, the most valuable football brands are Notre Dame, Florida State, and Clemson. Think about this, which football game would have more interest and have better ratings? Florida/Florida St. or Florida/Virginia?
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Agreed - even Louisville garners more tv ratings than UVa.
 
tzznandrew said:
Most of this is Stop.

But it seems quite obvious UNC and Virginia are the biggest prizes left. They have hugely successful athletic departments and are flagship programs in states that neither the SEC nor the B1G are in.
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As if that mattered

Tie No Respect GIF by Rodney Dangerfield
 
champs99and04 said:
While I see you're point, at some point the SEC has to realize that not everyone in that league can succeed in football. Virginia and UNC would give them a major presence in critical recruiting markets and potentially add a lot of $ in basketball. I wouldn't even be shocked if they took Duke at some point to add a second private to pair with Vandy.
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I think Duke to the SEC makes a ton of sense, especially if UNC goes there. The SEC needs someone to lose football games, win basketball games, plus the whole academic profile thing.
 
I think we could work with FSU and Clemson. The minute they sign on with us the investment would flow in. It would be like Fred and Ginger, we would give them class.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
I think UNC and UVA are better for the B1G than SEC
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It'd definitely seem like the better fit based on what the league has traditionally valued, but then again I can't pretend to know what the hell it values after its raid of the PAC-12. Maybe it continues its football-first approach and nabs some combination of FSU, Clemson, and Miami. Maybe it makes a play for Kansas, or even tries to flip an SEC school like Missouri. (It'd be unprecedented, but I bet at some point we're going to see an SEC school leave for the Big Ten, or vice versa)
 
Exit 4 said:
CRA - you can never really leave it
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UNC and UVA have been potential yes votes for Connecticut moving to the ACC. So, they're leaving the ACC seems entirely consistent with conference realignment rule #1.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
NC State is not part of the UNC System
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The UNC System consists of over a dozen universities, including NC State, UNC at Chapel Hill, UNC at Charlotte, ECU, App State, etc. Connecticut does it differently where the "State" schools are separate from UConn.

He makes a good point. Big time hoops!

 
Kolumbo said:
The UNC System consists of over a dozen universities, including NC State, UNC at Chapel Hill, UNC at Charlotte, ECU, App State, etc. Connecticut does it differently where the "State" schools are separate from UConn.

He makes a good point. Big time hoops!

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Yes. And we know we’re not worth $100M a year now.

But we’ll take 20 or 30 % of that and make you basketball conference look great while giving you a football game smack dab in your alumni footprint.
 
Kolumbo said:
The UNC System consists of over a dozen universities, including NC State, UNC at Chapel Hill, UNC at Charlotte, ECU, App State, etc. Connecticut does it differently where the "State" schools are separate from UConn.

He makes a good point. Big time hoops!

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Kolumbo said:
The UNC System consists of over a dozen universities, including NC State, UNC at Chapel Hill, UNC at Charlotte, ECU, App State, etc. Connecticut does it differently where the "State" schools are separate from UConn.

He makes a good point. Big time hoops!

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When I worked in the system, the NC State system and the UNC system were separate.
 
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