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Vowelguy said:
lol.
There is NOT going to be a medical school in Storrs. Med schools need patients, meaning a local population to serve.
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Nice strawman . There's no need to move the medical school it's expensive wasteful and as you point out logistically poor, however, research should be done on campus. You understand those are different things, right?
 
CL82 said:
Nice strawman . There's no need to move the medical school it's expensive wasteful and as you point out logistically poor, however, research should be done on campus. You understand those are different things, right?
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As a UConn PhD, no I don't. Please tell me how you're going to do research on patients in a small isolated population town in Eastern Connecticut? You're going to have to spend all kinds of money at the facility proper. You think you're the only one trying to goose the AAU figures via work arounds and technicalities?
 
CL82 said:
Nice strawman . There's no need to move the medical school it's expensive wasteful and as you point out logistically poor, however, research should be done on campus. You understand those are different things, right?
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Well, I don't think so. I'm no doctor but I think medical research occurs primarily in medical centers and hospitals.
FfldCntyFan said:
It is, but the thing is the health center is in Farmington (and from what I understand aligned with Hartford hospital) so this school needs to be on the vicinity of those two.

Of a major medical center existed in or near Mansfield our entire medical school could be within the campus.
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I'm not sure what "aligned" means in this context but I think UConn Health in Farmington is completely separate from Hartford Hospital.

I haven't researched thoroughly but I think UConn research includes UConn Health.

today.uconn.edu

UConn’s Growing Research Strength Reflected in HERD Survey Rankings - UConn Today

Influential survey lists institutions according to research expenditures
today.uconn.edu today.uconn.edu
 
Patman said:
As a UConn PhD, no I don't. Please tell me how you're going to do research on patients in a small isolated population town in Eastern Connecticut? You're going to have to spend all kinds of money at the facility proper. You think you're the only one trying to goose the AAU figures via work arounds and technicalities?
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You have to invest the money in either location so when I built it on campus. Eastern Connecticut isn't Siberia.
 
CL82 said:
There is a whole lot of supposition involved in that statement.
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An awful lot of people travel to Farmington to visit Docs at UConn Health, pain in the neck whether you are coming from E,W or South, North is pretty easy. Hartford traffic is still a bear at certain times of the day Took my Mother in Law for numerous visits, something to do with her Medicare plan, blocked off most of the day. No reason UConn Health couldn't be satellite in Mansfield, lots of folks would have access that don't now.
 
AllHusky said:
An awful lot of people travel to Farmington to visit Docs at UConn Health, pain in the neck whether you are coming from E,W or South, North is pretty easy. Hartford traffic is still a bear at certain times of the day Took my Mother in Law for numerous visits, something to do with her Medicare plan, blocked off most of the day. No reason UConn Health couldn't be satellite in Mansfield, lots of folks would have access that don't now.
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Storrs Office Location | UConn Health

Our location in the heart of Downtown Storrs brings academic medicine to the UConn community and surrounding towns.
health.uconn.edu health.uconn.edu
 
Patman said:
As a UConn PhD, no I don't. Please tell me how you're going to do research on patients in a small isolated population town in Eastern Connecticut? You're going to have to spend all kinds of money at the facility proper. You think you're the only one trying to goose the AAU figures via work arounds and technicalities?
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I know one of the “ researchers” at the health center. He refuses to consider himself a state employee but if you look up open payroll and see how much money these guys are making, there’s no doubt as to why the health center is a financial dinosaur.
 
Ha Who said:
I know one of the “ researchers” at the health center. He refuses to consider himself a state employee but if you look up open payroll and see how much money these guys are making, there’s no doubt as to why the health center is a financial dinosaur.
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Unless doctors are paid a competitive salary, you are going to get the bottom of the barrel. No different from athletes nowadays. Do you want a top notch medical school or a VA? There is a big difference. UConn remember is a public university and relies on public funding for its existence.
 
buddy said:
Unless doctors are paid a competitive salary, you are going to get the bottom of the barrel. No different from athletes nowadays. Do you want a top notch medical school or a VA? There is a big difference. UConn remember is a public university and relies on public funding for its existence.
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He is not a doctor
 
CL82 said:
You have to invest the money in either location so when I built it on campus. Eastern Connecticut isn't Siberia.
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In the typical Eastern mentality of distance Storrs might as well be in Siberia . Its a pain to get to .
My grandson who just took me to a game there can’t believe they built the University there .
His point was when it was established land adjacent to Hartford ,was mostly farmland , West Hartford , Farmington , East Hartford , Windsor , Suffield , Enfirld even Avon would have been a better choice and made the University an economic engine for the entire Hartford area.
Thinking about it as a guy whose expertise was in logistics he made an excellent point.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
In the typical Eastern mentality of distance Storrs might as well be in Siberia . Its a pain to get to .
My grandson who just took me to a game there can’t believe they built the University there .
His point was when it was established land adjacent to Hartford ,was mostly farmland , West Hartford , Farmington , East Hartford , Windsor , Suffield , Enfirld even Avon would have been a better choice and made the University an economic engine for the entire Hartford area.
Thinking about it as a guy whose expertise was in logistics he made an excellent point.
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the land was donated, that's why it's where it is.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
In the typical Eastern mentality of distance Storrs might as well be in Siberia . Its a pain to get to .
My grandson who just took me to a game there can’t believe they built the University there .
His point was when it was established land adjacent to Hartford ,was mostly farmland , West Hartford , Farmington , East Hartford , Windsor , Suffield , Enfirld even Avon would have been a better choice and made the University an economic engine for the entire Hartford area.
Thinking about it as a guy whose expertise was in logistics he made an excellent point.
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He's not wrong, but the promise of "free land" will often lead people to bad decisions. Renschler field would be a good recent example.

Nonetheless, at the time, no one was foreseeing the stage agricultural college growing to be an "economic engine for the region." They were just looking to educate the next generation of farmers on successful and sustainable farming techniques.
 
AllHusky said:
An awful lot of people travel to Farmington to visit Docs at UConn Health, pain in the neck whether you are coming from E,W or South, North is pretty easy. Hartford traffic is still a bear at certain times of the day Took my Mother in Law for numerous visits, something to do with her Medicare plan, blocked off most of the day. No reason UConn Health couldn't be satellite in Mansfield, lots of folks would have access that don't now.
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I think you don't understand how people work.
 
AllHusky said:
Medic,

You are killing me! So, all this discussion is moot?! UConn Health is there, just add a research facility somewhere on campus, and voila. $$ is on campus.
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So are they spending the dollars there or in Farmington. My bet is Farmington. But what do I know.
 
Not sure anything physical needs to take place. Here is what Nebraska is doing to solve the issue without relocating any building:

"Now Nebraska is working on a plan that will include reporting research expenditures from UNL, its flagship campus in Lincoln, in tandem with the University of Nebraska Medical Center located in Omaha. Currently, Carter said, Nebraska ranks 117th nationally for federal research and development dollars. But changing the organizational structure to combine R&D reporting would bump Nebraska to 66th.

“There’s nothing that doesn’t allow us to have the type of institutional control to make our research capabilities between our Med Center and our flagship be reported as a single entity. And that’s effectively what we’re doing,” Carter said."
 

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