Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Patman]

Medic,

You are killing me! So, all this discussion is moot?! UConn Health is there, just add a research facility somewhere on campus, and voila. $$ is on campus.

So are they spending the dollars there or in Farmington. My bet is Farmington. But what do I know.

 

[Dizzy21]

Not sure anything physical needs to take place. Here is what Nebraska is doing to solve the issue without relocating any building:

"Now Nebraska is working on a plan that will include reporting research expenditures from UNL, its flagship campus in Lincoln, in tandem with the University of Nebraska Medical Center located in Omaha. Currently, Carter said, Nebraska ranks 117th nationally for federal research and development dollars. But changing the organizational structure to combine R&D reporting would bump Nebraska to 66th.

“There’s nothing that doesn’t allow us to have the type of institutional control to make our research capabilities between our Med Center and our flagship be reported as a single entity. And that’s effectively what we’re doing,” Carter said."

 

[Ha Who]

So what is his salary so that we can decide if he is overpaid. Is he a PhD?

192,000. Probably a PHD

 

[whalerfan]

Storrs would love to have the population of Syracuse.

I think Storrs would be happy with Dinosaur Bar-b-Que and leave the population of Syracuse in Syracuse.

 

[CL82]

Storrs would love to have the population of Syracuse.

Probably not. Have you seen those people?

 

[buddy]

192,000. Probably a PHD

That's about right. Add an MD and it is more likely 500K, at least here in NYC in a top notch program.

 

[CL82]

Now just add a monorail linking Storrs to Farmington and we can call it contiguous. AAU here we come.

Just buy a 20 foot wide stretch of land from stores to Farmington.

 

[whalerfan]

Just buy a 20 foot wide stretch of land from stores to Farmington.

Perhaps a new busway!

 

[Kolumbo]

An awful lot of people travel to Farmington to visit Docs at UConn Health, pain in the neck whether you are coming from E,W or South, North is pretty easy. Hartford traffic is still a bear at certain times of the day Took my Mother in Law for numerous visits, something to do with her Medicare plan, blocked off most of the day. No reason UConn Health couldn't be satellite in Mansfield, lots of folks would have access that don't now.

I don't agree with this. The UConn Health Center, the CCMC locations and all the other medical buildings in Farmington are right off of I-84. Very easy to get to from any direction really. I would say from the North might be tough if you have to go through Hartford.

What does location and geography have to do with anything anyway? The precious Big 18 is coast to coast and they are quibbling over 30 miles between a few buildings.

 

[Patman]

I don't agree with this. The UConn Health Center, the CCMC locations and all the other medical buildings in Farmington are right off of I-84. Very easy to get to from any direction really. I would say from the North might be tough if you have to go through Hartford.

What does location and geography have to do with anything anyway? The precious Big 18 is coast to coast and they are quibbling over 30 miles between a few buildings.

I mean that's between UConn and the AAU, ain't my rules

 

[Patman]

Probably not. Have you seen those people?

I grew up in a dying massachusetts milltown... how much worse could it be?

 

[billybud]

I grew up in a dying massachusetts milltown... how much worse could it be?

It could be...In my boyhood, Florida was a sleepy state with a population of 3 million....it is now 22 million.

Where once we roamed miles of unpopulated beaches and climbed the dunes, there are now towers, hotels, constant traffic...the cacophony of overpopulation.

I now luxuriate near a small mountain town of 1,600....

There has to be a middle ground between rampant overpopulation and Mayberry. I picture Connecticut as a middle ground...

 

[hoopsfan22]

It could be...In my boyhood, Florida was a sleepy state with a population of 3 million....it is now 22 million.

Where once we roamed miles of unpopulated beaches and climbed the dunes, there are now towers, hotels, constant traffic...the cacophony of overpopulation.

I now luxuriate near a small mountain town of 1,600....

There has to be a middle ground between rampant overpopulation and Mayberry. I picture Connecticut as a middle ground...

Connecticut is about twice as densely populated as Florida, so if you're unhappy with how busy and overcrowded Florida has become, you're really gonna dislike pretty much anywhere the Bos-Wash corridor. At least in Florida you can go sit on one of the nicest beaches in the country to be unhappy about all the people.

 

[UConnJim]

In the typical Eastern mentality of distance Storrs might as well be in Siberia . Its a pain to get to .
My grandson who just took me to a game there can’t believe they built the University there .
His point was when it was established land adjacent to Hartford ,was mostly farmland , West Hartford , Farmington , East Hartford , Windsor , Suffield , Enfirld even Avon would have been a better choice and made the University an economic engine for the entire Hartford area.
Thinking about it as a guy whose expertise was in logistics he made an excellent point.

Storrs/Mansfield could have been a major development by now, but the locals didn't want that. State flagship universities are major engines of growth almost everywhere. In my opinion, the state of Connecticut should have stepped in and driven a growth agenda to help the economy in eastern Connecticut. The opportunity for UConn to stimulate the local economy is still there.

 

[billybud]

Hartford is fairly dense...density per sq. mile of 7,091 people...multiply that x 1.7 and it would be Miami
Miami...12,284 per sq. mile

But population within the Hartford city limits is 120,000. Tallahassee city limits 190,000.

Interestingly, some Florida cities have expanded boundaries and appear less dense than the urban parts actually are....for instance, Jacksonville is the largest city in the contiguous US in land mass...840 sq. miles...Jacksonville's population is 1.0 million...Hartford's is 120,000...yet Hartford is recorded as far more dense.

 

[gioff2323]

 

[ScottVib]

Hartford (18 sq. miles) is also less than half the size of Disney World (40 sq. miles), Tallahassee (95 sq. miles) is more than 5x bigger by land area

 

[Waquoit]

I mean that's between UConn and the AAU, ain't my rules

That these "rules" have anything to do with college football is ridiculous.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Connecticut is about twice as densely populated as Florida, so if you're unhappy with how busy and overcrowded Florida has become, you're really gonna dislike pretty much anywhere the Bos-Wash corridor. At least in Florida you can go sit on one of the nicest beaches in the country to be unhappy about all the people.

Arizona is forced into density
Although it’s top ten in areas
between public lands and native
Reservations 500,,000 sq miles of them
populated by 300k from 20 different nations .
only 18% of the land is available for private use.
The US government owns a large % of the land in Western Stares except Texas .
One thing the Cowboys and Indians have in common is distrust of the Federal government . One the BOIA the other BOLM , both departments of the interior .

 

[billybud]

Hartford (18 sq. miles) is also less than half the size of Disney World (40 sq. miles), Tallahassee (95 sq. miles) is more than 5x bigger by land area

Thus the density ratings...120,000 in basically a compact urban area...

Heck, FSU covers 487 acres...44,600 students. FAMU has about 10,000...both in city limits just blocks from downtown...

I made an error...Census lists Tallahassee at population of 201,731

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/tallahasseecityflorida/PST045222

 

[billybud]

Western North Carolina is very different from both Hartford and Tallahassee....Both Tallahassee and Hartford have 30 something percent of their population identifying as "black"...

This county in the mountains has less than 2%...as do surrounding counties...it took a while to get used to the non diverse population characteristics.

 

[Vowelguy]

Thus the density ratings...120,000 in basically a compact urban area...

Heck, FSU covers 487 acres...44,600 students. FAMU has about 10,000...both in city limits just blocks from downtown...

I made an error...Census lists Tallahassee at population of 201,731

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/tallahasseecityflorida/PST045222

This is why city comparisons are silly. The economic unit is the metro area.
Among the nearly 400 metro areas, Hartford metro area's density is in the top 30. (Hartford+Middlesex+Tolland counties)

Hartford = 800 people/sq mi
Tallahassee = 170
Jax, FL = 530

Only metros in the south in the top 30 = Dallas, Houston, Miami, Tampa, and Cape Coral-Ft Myers.
(Well, technically, Baltimore & DC are south too, though no one would say they are.)

 

[CL82]

This is why city comparisons are silly. The economic unit is the metro area.
Among the nearly 400 metro areas, Hartford metro area's density is in the top 30. (Hartford+Middlesex+Tolland counties)

Hartford = 800 people/sq mi
Tallahassee = 170
Jax, FL = 530

Only metros in the south in the top 30 = Dallas, Houston, Miami, Tampa, and Cape Coral-Ft Myers.
(Well, technically, Baltimore & DC are south too, though no one would say they are.)

Actually, "metro area" is a misleading term because the size widely varies from city to city. The better comparison is taking a consistent distances for every city so that you you are comparing apples to apples regardless of whether an area choose to roll all the surrounding communities into the city or whether, as in the case of Hartford, West Hartford etc. they chose to maintain separate municipalities.

 

[JeepCSC]

Actually, "metro area" is a misleading term because the size widely varies from city to city. The better comparison is taking a consistent distances for every city so that you you are comparing apples to apples regardless of whether an area choose to roll all the surrounding communities into the city or whether, as in the case of Hartford, West Hartford etc. they chose to maintain separate municipalities.

Distances are different though depending on where you are in the country. There’s more land in the Midwest than the Norheast, ergo cities are built differently.

 

[AllHusky]

Actually, "metro area" is a misleading term because the size widely varies from city to city. The better comparison is taking a consistent distances for every city so that you you are comparing apples to apples regardless of whether an area choose to roll all the surrounding communities into the city or whether, as in the case of Hartford, West Hartford etc. they chose to maintain separate municipalities.

As opposed to Willimantic, So Windham, North Windham and Windham Center, all under Windham, part of the Greater Willimantic Metropolitan region