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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Rdkid said:
I think people understand just fine. What they don’t understand is how $1, 5 or 25 million more of deficit spending for football can be found in the couch cushions - and how that even gets you better results. Especially without a conference or natural rivalries. That money is being taken from somewhere or being charged to students and families. They have cut sports and are hitting up basketball fans to make it work now that men’s bb is back to greatness. Bodies in the seats and NIL money will have to come from individuals most invested in football and the overall health of the athletic program - clearly there’s a connection. Time will tell if there are enough of us. That is what makes this season a killer. And the urgency greater.

The finances are beyond challenging. It appears they can keep operating at this current loss, not more and not forever. Current administration is in a real pickle and the wave of a pen is not coming.
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$1.5M in NIL wouldn’t result in more deficit spending. NIL has to come from private sources.
 
ZooCougar said:
$1.5M in NIL wouldn’t result in more deficit spending. NIL has to come from private sources.
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I understand all that completely. This is more of a response to the knee-jerkers who complain about “state support” of football and/or the AD finding more money for coaches, staff, stadiums, etc. Football is a never-ending arms race & at some point it has to win and build upon its own success. I’m still willing to be a tiny part of the road forward, but to ask the taxpayer or students/parents for more “because football drives the bus” gets old.

I would also add that other sports at UConn, including, soccer, hockey, baseball deserve their day in the sun given their current success and/or past support (including donors). A 70 mil. hockey rink? Maybe not. But competitive budgets and facilities? Absolutely. Fair is fair for these kids.

And I am well aware that a cratered football program puts the whole AD (and national championship bball) at risk. That is the main basis of my support. I hope the “football drives the bus” folks are continuing to give what they can - including to NIL
 
Rdkid said:
I understand all that completely. This is more of a response to the knee-jerkers who complain about “state support” of football and/or the AD finding more money for coaches, staff, stadiums, etc. Football is a never-ending arms race & at some point it has to win and build upon its own success. I’m still willing to be a tiny part of the road forward, but to ask the taxpayer or students/parents for more “because football drives the bus” gets old.

I would also add that other sports at UConn, including, soccer, hockey, baseball deserve their day in the sun given their current success and/or past support (including donors). A 70 mil. hockey rink? Maybe not. But competitive budgets and facilities? Absolutely. Fair is fair for these kids.

And I am well aware that a cratered football program puts the whole AD (and national championship bball) at risk. That is the main basis of my support. I hope the “football drives the bus” folks are continuing to give what they can - including to NIL
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Hockey is a disastrous waste. That Hockey Barn looks like a complete debacle.

If football were squared away we would be in a Power Conference for all sports and the precious hoop only fans could rest easy because our future would be far more relatively secure.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
Fanbase doesn’t get it.
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I think many do. I think the biggest problem for UConn with NIL is leadership. Until Mora spoke up, there was very little leadership to help the fan base understand NIL and why it is important. If UConn had an athletics booster club, there would be a natural group that raises money for athletics and they could have provided leadership and marketing for setting up an NIL collective.
 
ZooCougar said:
Hockey is a disastrous waste. That Hockey Barn looks like a complete debacle.

If football were squared away we would be in a Power Conference for all sports and the precious hoop only fans could rest easy because our future would be far more relatively secure.
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Make the case against the profligate build, sure. Crapping on the sport - especially when we’ve been good with poor facilities (this goes for several non-revenue sports) - is where we’ll part ways. There is a more direct line for a good facility and winning hockey (and I’m not invested in hockey) than taking that money (however that would work) and putting it into football infrastructure, such as coaches and staff. The track record on salary to performance for football assistants is not great, as has been bandied about ad nauseum this season. I think the case has been made for going 6-6 this year with the resources we have. And putting that 70 mil into The Rent or and other bricks & mortar doesn’t get you a win moving forward. The road forward is stable AD/state support and NIL. We don’t have to beggar other winning programs any more than we historically have.
 
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UConnJim said:
I think many do. I think the biggest problem for UConn with NIL is leadership. Until Mora spoke up, there was very little leadership to help the fan base understand NIL and why it is important. If UConn had an athletics booster club, there would be a natural group that raises money for athletics and they could have provided leadership and marketing for setting up an NIL collective.
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Isn’t that kind of what just happened?
 
UConnJim said:
I think many do. I think the biggest problem for UConn with NIL is leadership. Until Mora spoke up, there was very little leadership to help the fan base understand NIL and why it is important. If UConn had an athletics booster club, there would be a natural group that raises money for athletics and they could have provided leadership and marketing for setting up an NIL collective.
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What is the purpose of the UConn Club? Seems to have ties with the Bleed Blue nil. What are the relationships with sport specific booster clubs like Friends of Soccer? UConn Foundation funds? Should there be a Football specific booster club to coordinate the giving?
 
Duncan Idaho said:
What is the purpose of the UConn Club? Seems to have ties with the Bleed Blue nil. What are the relationships with sport specific booster clubs like Friends of Soccer? UConn Foundation funds? Should there be a Football specific booster club to coordinate the giving?
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Maybe the UConn club can have bake sales and returnable can/bottle drives to raise NIL money for the collective.
 
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Rdkid said:
Make the case against the profligate build, sure. Crapping on the sport - especially when we’ve been good with poor facilities (this goes for several non-revenue sports) - is where we’ll part ways. There is a more direct line for a good facility and winning hockey (and I’m not invested in hockey) than taking that money (however that would work) and putting it into football infrastructure, such as coaches and staff. The track record on salary to performance for football assistants is not great, as has been bandied about ad nauseum this season. I think the case has been made for going 6-6 this year with the resources we have. And putting that 70 mil into The Rent or and other bricks & mortar doesn’t get you a win moving forward. The road forward is stable AD/state support and NIL. We don’t have to beggar other winning programs any more than we historically have.
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I honestly doubt that Hockey even loses money. Hockey East does get some TV money, we draw pretty well and travel is via bus to almost every game. Hockey was a smart investment that should have been made 20 years earlier.

Baseball is tough because we are good, and built another new stadium for it, but it will be so hard to compete going forward. Soccer is saddest, because we used to be very very good and now we suck. Another new stadium built for that too.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I honestly doubt that Hockey even loses money. Hockey East does get some TV money, we draw pretty well and travel is via bus to almost every game. Hockey was a smart investment that should have been made 20 years earlier.

Baseball is tough because we are good, and built another new stadium for it, but it will be so hard to compete going forward. Soccer is saddest, because we used to be very very good and now we suck. Another new stadium built for that too.
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Why is it going to be hard to compete for baseball?

Soccer desperately needs a new coach. Yes, I know this is only year one of the post Ray Reid era, but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen until we get new coaching in. Unfortunately that's at least a year away, and perhaps two.
 
CL82 said:
Why is it going to be hard to compete for baseball?

Soccer desperately needs a new coach. Yes, I know this is only year one of the post Ray Reid era, but it doesn't look like anything is going to happen until we get new coaching in. Unfortunately that's at least a year away, and perhaps two.
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Because it is already hard in the northeast and once all the P4 schools are sending money to kids, which we can't afford to do, we are going to struggle to recruit.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Because it is already hard in the northeast and once all the P4 schools are sending money to kids, which we can't afford to do, we are going to struggle to recruit.
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Shrugs. This is always going to be a money game. If we commit to paying players, we will be fine for a while. I don't see this being as big an issue as getting sufficient NL for baseball
 
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