Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[gioff2323]

God forbid you would miss out on the hard hitting news stored in the non- key tweet section!

 

[noeynox]

 

[UConn Dan]

Live look at Greg Sankey:

 

[KryHavok]

Sorry, not a key tweet, but Hanky Sankey has me thinking he mentioned 70 on purpose. After sniffing some glue, I've come to realize what he really meant to say was "I've studied it a lot, and I come back with the SEC wants to be part of a super league of about 40 teams that we're tyring to make happen. Sorry, not sorry, that your school probably can't join us."

 

[Ha Who]

 

[CL82]

It's not so much the greed, but the complete and utter distain, entirely unmasked, for the rest of college football. Maybe it's justified, but be a little more subtle about it.

 

[Exit 4]

It's not so much the greed, but the complete and utter distain, entirely unmasked, for the rest of college football. Maybe it's justified, but be a little more subtle about it. I had a mentor who used to say never admit that you "won" any negotiation. It will just motivate the other side for the next time you do a deal together.

These guys (ahem the SEC and perhaps the B1G), can't possibly lose enough OOC games for me.

Unless they extend UConn an invite, then I'll will get in line with their imperial powers.

But until then, please non P2 world, beat whomever - whenever.

 

[AllHusky]

These guys (ahem the SEC and perhaps the B1G), can't possibly lose enough OOC games for me.

Unless they extend UConn an invite, then I'll will get in line with their imperial powers.

But until then, please non P2 world, beat whomever - whenever.

Looked at OOC games for Ohio St and Bama this year
Akron Marshall west Michigan-tOSU
W Ky, So Fl, Mercer, Wi-Alabama

Out of those 7 OOC opponents, who had a real chance beating Bama or tOSU? Wisconsin? So Fl??

Will non P2’s even have a chance to get on the schedule in the dystopian future P2 FB World?

 

[hoopsfan22]

Looked at OOC games for Ohio St and Bama this year
Akron Marshall west Michigan-tOSU
W Ky, So Fl, Mercer, Wi-Alabama

Out of those 7 OOC opponents, who had a real chance beating Bama or tOSU? Wisconsin? So Fl??

Will non P2’s even have a chance to get on the schedule in the dystopian future P2 FB World?

I don't think it matters because there are bottom feeders in the P2 leagues. Sure they are better than the teams you listed (for the most part), but whether you're "only" 20x worse than Ohio State or Alabama instead of 100x is immaterial other than maybe moving some betting lines by a few points.

 

[AllHusky]

I don't think it matters because there are bottom feeders in the P2 leagues. Sure they are better than the teams you listed (for the most part), but whether you're "only" 20x worse than Ohio State or Alabama instead of 100x is immaterial other than maybe moving some betting lines by a few points.

So in the revenue/eyeball world it won’t matter if Bama plays Mercer or Vandy as long as W is the result

 

[UConnJim]

Will non P2’s even have a chance to get on the schedule in the dystopian future P2 FB World?

Yes, they will. Here's why. The P2 schools are not going to sign up for a full P2 schedule that results in more losses than they are used to. The most successful P2 schools built their fanbases by winning games over years and when they start to lose games and have tough seasons, the fans start to dwindle. Look at FSU as a case in point. Plus, the big P2 schools are not going to go for only 6 home games as losing a home game is a big hit to their bottom lines. Finally, individual state legislatures will get involved in scheduling if the P2s drop playing instate nonP2 schools.

I would think Washington will continue to play Washington St., Oregon will continue to play Oregon St., UCLA will continue to play Cal, Florida will continue to play FSU, South Carolina will continue to play Clemson, Georgia will continue to play Georgia Tech, .....

 

[Patman]

It's not so much the greed, but the complete and utter distain, entirely unmasked, for the rest of college football. Maybe it's justified, but be a little more subtle about it.

They don't have to be subtle. They have the power. The stupid thing is thinking they won't do it

Edit: why don't you believe them when they told you what they want to do

 

[Ha Who]

They don't have to be subtle. They have the power. The stupid thing is thinking they won't do it

Edit: why don't you believe them when they told you what they want to do

Not being subtle is moronic on their part.

 

[upstater]

Not being subtle is moronic on their part.

Antitrust courts and agencies being what they are right now, yes indeed. They can get themselves into trouble easily.

 

[CL82]

Antitrust courts and agencies being what they are right now, yes indeed. They can get themselves into trouble easily.

The question is do they have enough legislative throw weight to counterbalance any blowback. I suspect the answer is yes, for a number of reasons, including the fact that football matters in some states more than others.

 

[jostar1]

 

[UConnJim]

The question is do they have enough legislative throw weight to counterbalance any blowback. I suspect the answer is yes, for a number of reasons, including the fact that football matters in some states more than others.

I don't think the P2 has the legislative weight. Why? Look at each of the states and count the number of P2 vs non-P2 schools. In Texas, there are 2 P2 schools and 10 non-P2 schools. In Florida, there is 1 P2 school and 6 non-P2 schools. In Ohio, there is 1 P2 school and 7 non-P2 schools. In Georgia, there is 1 P2 school and 4 non-P2 schools. In California, there are 2 P2 schools and 4 non-P2 schools. etc,... Look at the student populations of Florida schools:

P2: 56k
non-P2: 236k

Based on those numbers, do you think politicians are going to side with P2 schools and diminish the majority of schools in their states? No way.

 

[CL82]

I don't think the P2 has the legislative weight. Why? Look at each of the states and count the number of P2 vs non-P2 schools. In Texas, there are 2 P2 schools and 10 non-P2 schools. In Florida, there is 1 P2 school and 6 non-P2 schools. In Ohio, there is 1 P2 school and 7 non-P2 schools. In Georgia, there is 1 P2 school and 4 non-P2 schools. In California, there are 2 P2 schools and 4 non-P2 schools. etc,... Look at the student populations of Florida schools:

P2: 56k
non-P2: 236k

Based on those numbers, do you think politicians are going to side with P2 schools and diminish the majority of schools in their states? No way.

List the schools, and then reevaluate in terms of intensity of fan support. Your analysis is legislators will act in support of G5 schools. In my opinion, they will do nothing so that they will not alienate the P2 schools fans. Taking action puts them at risk. Doing nothing does not.

 

[noeynox]

List the schools, and then reevaluate in terms of intensity of fan support. Your analysis is legislators will act in support of G5 schools. In my opinion, they will do nothing so that they will not alienate the P2 schools fans. Taking action puts them at risk. Doing nothing does not.

Not just G5, P4s not in the P2. Think FSU, Miami, TCU, Baylor, TTech, Oklahoma State. They'd all be cooked.

 

[upstater]

List the schools, and then reevaluate in terms of intensity of fan support. Your analysis is legislators will act in support of G5 schools. In my opinion, they will do nothing so that they will not alienate the P2 schools fans. Taking action puts them at risk. Doing nothing does not.

Politicians don't need to do anything here. It all depends on how ballsy our agency heads are. The current ones are enforcing antitrust law.

 

[baggerbob]

I don't think the P2 has the legislative weight. Why? Look at each of the states and count the number of P2 vs non-P2 schools. In Texas, there are 2 P2 schools and 10 non-P2 schools. In Florida, there is 1 P2 school and 6 non-P2 schools. In Ohio, there is 1 P2 school and 7 non-P2 schools. In Georgia, there is 1 P2 school and 4 non-P2 schools. In California, there are 2 P2 schools and 4 non-P2 schools. etc,... Look at the student populations of Florida schools:

P2: 56k
non-P2: 236k

Based on those numbers, do you think politicians are going to side with P2 schools and diminish the majority of schools in their states? No way.

Not if they don't want to be out of a job.

 

[UConnJim]

List the schools, and then reevaluate in terms of intensity of fan support. Your analysis is legislators will act in support of G5 schools. In my opinion, they will do nothing so that they will not alienate the P2 schools fans. Taking action puts them at risk. Doing nothing does not.

Here's how to think about this. The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (NFL anti-trust) was passed by the House, Senate, and signed into law by the President. The P2 leaves out too many schools and states to be able to get legislation through Washington.

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

Here's another way to look at fan support. Combined average attendance by game of P2 vs non-P2 schools by state:

Florida: P2: 89.6k, non-P2: 244.4k
Texas: P2: 200.8K, non-P2: 339.6k
California: P2: 113.9k, non-P2: 153.4k
Ohio: P2: 103.8k, non-P2: 113.9k

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Here's how to think about this. The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (NFL anti-trust) was passed by the House, Senate, and signed into law by the President. The P2 leaves out too many schools and states to be able to get legislation through Washington.

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

Here's another way to look at fan support. Combined average attendance by game of P2 vs non-P2 schools by state:

Florida: P2: 89.6k, non-P2: 244.4k
Texas: P2: 200.8K, non-P2: 339.6k
California: P2: 113.9k, non-P2: 153.4k
Ohio: P2: 103.8k, non-P2: 113.9k

This is an arguement I've been making for a couple of years; if there is bi-partisan political will across numerous states that have non-P2 (D1-D3) impacted states (which is basically all 50 states), then it's going to be difficult for a P2 breakoff. Unless the FB P2 agrees to some sort of large March Madness concession. Maybe there are other concessions the P2 could make as well.

 

[huskymedic]

Devil is always in the details:



-> MW BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT: The conference basketball tournament will remain in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Note: The league was not considering moving the event outside of Las Vegas, though had explored moving the tournament out of the Thomas & Mack Center on UNLV’s campus. It has been reported that it will now remain at the Thomas & Mack, though all that is spelled out in the MOU is that it remain in Las Vegas).

OFFICES MOVING: Though it’s unclear why this would be included in an MOU of this nature, clause eight reads: “The conference will move its offices to Las Vegas, Nevada, as soon as practicable after the expiration of its existing office lease in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and such Conference offices shall remain in Las Vegas, Nevada, at least through the end of the Term of this MOU and the Grant of Rights Agreement.” The league’s headquarters have been in Colorado Springs since December 1998.

MOVING FORWARD: Notably, any MW member school invited to join the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 or SEC can leave without penalty. And the MOU can be modified only in writing and with both the league and 3/4 of the member schools. <-

 

[CL82]

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

True. Alienating Gator fans is also some thing that's not going to happen, however. So where would that leave a politician with reasonably well-developed self preservation instincts? The answer is sitting silently on the sidelines.

With material opposition on either side of an issue, politicians won't take a side.