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Steelerone said:
I'm not sure a lot of people are aware of Mississippi State or it's location. They have always been the poor sister to the University of Mississippi. The weather is terrible, humid and hot and they are basically surrounded by a swamp. The fact that he built the program he did at Mississippi State is amazing. At Texas he will be so far ahead of the curve that aside from leaving players you have recruited there is no downside. I give him two to three years and Baylor will no longer be top dog in Texas.
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Mississippi State has always been the poor little sister to Ole Miss? Please, maybe in the pre segregation 60’s. Miss State has a much better football, baseball, basketball, and women’s basketball program and has for a while. In just the last 25 years state has been to a men’s Final Four, been a national runner-up in baseball, been a national runner-up in wbb, and was #1 in football for 5 weeks. Ole Miss has done none of those things in their history. If you take away the medical school State has more students, has higher ACT scores from incoming freshmen, and is higher ranked as a university by most publications than Ole Miss has. It’s all been downhill for Ole Miss since Archie graduated.
 
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SimpleDawg said:
We can put to bed any of those "He's leaving for a more prestigious program" assumptions.

He was offered Tennessee last year and turned it down. Texas has the #1 athletic budget, but they're not as prestigious in women's basketball as Tennessee.

Vic wanted to get home, as well as try to advance the career of Blair Schaefer who wants to be head coach one day. So he had in his mind his daughter along with the rest of his family, and his sister.
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How does going to Texas help his daughter’s future coaching career any more than him being treated like a God at Mississippi State. I’m not discounting him doing it for his family, but I see no way that his daughter has a brighter coaching future with him in Austin than she would with him coaching in Starkville, where she actually played, giving her much more goodwill in MS than she’ll have in TX.
 
I hate Texas more than Ole Miss honestly. My dad went to Mississippi State, I was raised a Bulldog in Starkville but I went to Texas for college. So our family has ties to both institutions. Texas just wasn't a good fit for me... and I just don't like that city or the university. And now listening to Vic's spiel about La Grange where he grew up (where I worked for an oil company) makes me dislike him even more, and Texas for luring him there.

It's funny, Mike Leach robbed them of a chance to play for a national title in 2008 and now he's the head coach at Mississippi State.

Don't have a great deal of vendetta against Ole Miss though. Other than that 2014 football game that broke my heart, I usually always ignore them and couldn't really care less about that place.
 
PGBully said:
How does going to Texas help his daughter’s future coaching career any more than him being treated like a God at Mississippi State. I’m not discounting him doing it for his family, but I see no way that his daughter has a brighter coaching future with him in Austin than she would with him coaching in Starkville, where she actually played, giving her much more goodwill in MS than she’ll have in TX.
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This dude is not making a whole lot of sense in the last 2 days, so you might want to ask him to clarify on that Blair bit, but his reasoning is that he wants Blair to be part of a richer tradition of sports where she feels a sense of home and blood.
 
SimpleDawg said:
This dude is not making a whole lot of sense in the last 2 days, so you might want to ask him to clarify on that Blair bit, but his reasoning is that he wants Blair to be part of a richer tradition of sports where she feels a sense of home and blood.
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Where did he say that about Blair being part of a richer tradition and feeling more at home? Was it in the press conference?
 
I guess, but how does one get a better sense of home 2 states away from her college home, where she was already an assistant coach? A richer general sports tradition I’ll give him, but not an appreciation for women’s basketball. I would guarantee that no establishment in Starkville would allow him to buy a drink or a meal. Whereas he could win 2 natty’s at Texas and not get recognized by 95% of Austin.

The simple truth is he wanted to go home to the state of Texas and only the state of Texas. If Baylor had called I’m sure he would have taken the job. Most state fans I know always assumed we’d lose him to aTm when Blair retired. The fact that he left for somewhere other than aTm without a goodbye or thank you and that the girls found out via Twitter is what has rubbed state fans the wrong way. I think he finally got around to thanking State but considering we gave him the platform from which he jumped to Texas he could have left with a little more grace. It’s not like he was a household name before the oppurtunity we gave him, an opportunity he was paid handsomely for.
 
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DaBball said:
Of all the players, she is far and away the most fired up about this on social media.
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I tried to do my own research and could only find what was on Twitter. Didn’t think it was anything bad. Is there more on IG? I couldn’t find her
 
PGBully said:
Mississippi State has always been the poor little sister to Ole Miss? Please, maybe in the pre segregation 60’s. Miss State has a much better football, baseball, basketball, and women’s basketball program and has for a while. In just the last 25 years state has been to a men’s Final Four, been a national runner-up in baseball, been a national runner-up in wbb, and was #1 in football for 5 weeks. Ole Miss has done none of those things in their history. If you take away the medical school State has more students, has higher ACT scores from incoming freshmen, and is higher ranked as a university by most publications than Ole Miss has. It’s all been downhill for Ole Miss since Archie graduated.
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And State has the cooler cheer - HAIL STATE!
 
oldude said:
Time will tell. But I’ll bet the ranch that in 3-5 years TX is a perennial top-10 team, while TN will still be fighting to get back into the top-25.
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Texas has tended to whiff when bringing in big name coaches. Agree that it will take Vic several years to get the team to Top 10 status. Baylor and A&M are deeply embedded in Texas HS recruiting and they will not go away. Vic is a great coach but he needs to rebuild his team of assistants and will still be considered the new guy until he proves otherwise.
 
HopJim said:
Texas has tended to whiff when bringing in big name coaches. Agree that it will take Vic several years to get the team to Top 10 status. Baylor and A&M are deeply embedded in Texas HS recruiting and they will not go away. Vic is a great coach but he needs to rebuild his team of assistants and will still be considered the new guy until he proves otherwise.
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Yes and no. Vic is new to the University of TX, but he has been a fixture in TX HS recruiting going all the way back to his assistant coaching days at A&M. TX HS coaches know him and probably like him. As for his team of assistants, Vic will probably bring along several from Starkville to hit the ground running.
 
If some high level Miss St. players want to transfer to follow their coaches, does the NCAA look on that (historically) as ok and the players do not need to sit out a year. Does the TX roster have room for the influx?
 
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eebmg said:
If some high level Miss St. players want to transfer to follow their coaches, does the NCAA look on that (historically) as ok and the players do not need to sit out a year. Does the TX roster have room for the influx?
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The NCAA does not care.
The players will have to sit a year under the current rules. The current rules might change.
The current Texas roster has 7 players that could be returning + 4 signed players for the class of 2020=11. That would leave Texas with a minimum of 4 scholarships available for the 20-21 season if there is going to be a season.
 
CocoHusky said:
The NCAA does not care.
The players will have to sit a year under the current rules. The current rules might change.
The current Texas roster has 7 players that could be returning + 4 signed players for the class of 2020=11. That would leave Texas with a minimum of 4 scholarships available for the 20-21 season if there is going to be a season.
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TX also signed a GS from Harvard, so as it stands right now they have 3 scholarships available for next season. The Longhorns graduate 4 of their top 6 players. As for the players coming in, only 2 are rated in Hoopgurlz top-100 at 52 & 97. I expect Vic will be hitting the transfer portal hard over the next few weeks.
 
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CocoHusky said:
The NCAA does not care.
The players will have to sit a year under the current rules. The current rules might change.
The current Texas roster has 7 players that could be returning + 4 signed players for the class of 2020=11. That would leave Texas with a minimum of 4 scholarships available for the 20-21 season if there is going to be a season.
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But coaching changes (and specifically wanting to keep the same coach) may make a transfer waiver more plausible?
 
eebmg said:
but Evina did not follow her old coach to a new position.

I am specifically thinking of Miss ST players who want to follow Vic to TX
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Now that Chloe Bibby has entered the portal, it will be interesting to see if she ends up at TX. The Longhorns can certainly use some help & experience in the frontcourt.
 
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militarydog said:
Aside from starting in a better situation at Texas than he did at MSU and possibly that he can overtake Baylor nothing in this post is accurate. Of course I’m sure plenty of Ole Miss fans share a similar opinion. In 30 years I’ve also never seen a swamp anywhere near Starkville. In fairness the weather describes every SEC West university but that has been a big plus in recruiting for all of us.
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That’s the weather in Florida too. UCF, Miami, FSU, USF, FGCU, and Florida seem to do ok.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Oh, good heaven - that was the tweet?

Until your post here kind of cleared it up I didn't see any racial overtones to it, and it was circulated on Facebook (at least where I saw it) by, well, a relatively elderly lady who in her comment cracked that here husband better watch out.

One of the problems we face is folks read way too much into things. Should he have tweeted it in today's day and age, probably not. Should lots of folks be twisted over it, no.
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You perhaps should do a bit more research on Mississippi and its history of lynching black men before you make commentary about not seeing any "racial overtones" in this.... As a primer for you,, I recommend listening to Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit".....
 
oldude said:
Now that Chloe Bibby has entered the portal, it will be interesting to see if she ends up at TX. The Longhorns can certainly use some help & experience in the frontcourt.
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She's not going to Texas. I don't think there's much love lost between her and Vic. She was supposed to be a team leader this past year and was disciplined numerous times for various off-court violations. She was leaving MSU BEFORE the Vic thing with Texas.
 
G-Dawg said:
She's not going to Texas. I don't think there's much love lost between her and Vic. She was supposed to be a team leader this past year and was disciplined numerous times for various off-court violations. She was leaving MSU BEFORE the Vic thing with Texas.
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Then why did Bibby tweet the following two days ago?

Congratulations to Coach Schaefer. wishing him and his family nothing but the best in their new journey. ❤

If there was no love lost between the two, it’s difficult to understand why she bothered to tweet her congratulations while also adding a heart emoji.
 
oldude said:
Then why did Bibby tweet the following two days ago?

Congratulations to Coach Schaefer. wishing him and his family nothing but the best in their new journey. ❤
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I don't know about all the violations and stuff, but she was reported to have decided to transfer before Schaefer left. She was the only player who posted something congratulatory, while every other player seemed upset and disappointed. I think she was just going to lose her minutes, not because of something with Vic.
 
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DaBball said:
I don't know about all the violations and stuff, but she was reported to have decided to transfer before Schaefer left. She was the only player who posted something congratulatory, while every other player seemed upset and disappointed. I think she was just going to lose her minutes, not because of something with Vic.
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Plenty of minutes available at TX, particularly in the frontcourt.
 
oldude said:
Then why did Bibby tweet the following two days ago?

Congratulations to Coach Schaefer. wishing him and his family nothing but the best in their new journey. ❤

If there was no love lost between the two, it’s difficult to understand why she bothered to tweet her congratulations while also adding a heart emoji.
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This is the good bye tweet u wanted Schaefer to give to MSU fans and players. She’s showing how it’s done
 
eebmg said:
But coaching changes (and specifically wanting to keep the same coach) may make a transfer waiver more plausible?
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You mean you want Vic to screw over Miss St/fans again by "cherry picking" players/transfers that he likes? :rolleyes:
 
oldude said:
Yes and no. Vic is new to the University of TX, but he has been a fixture in TX HS recruiting going all the way back to his assistant coaching days at A&M. TX HS coaches know him and probably like him. As for his team of assistants, Vic will probably bring along several from Starkville to hit the ground running.
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My neighbor's daughter in the Dallas area played for a high level AAU team and I typically watched a number of games each year. Never saw Vic or one of his assistants. McCowan the only TX player I remember the past 3 years on Miss. St. Virtually every major tournament had one or more from Baylor and A&M (and yes, we saw Geno and/or Lister at several). I'm neutral on Vic's ability to cherry pick in Texas - more local knowledge than some but has less current contacts than many national powers.
 
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