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Madmannsucks said:
I don't get it. Hurley can't coach these guys up because they are not his players? Sounds lame. I expected the team to be more competitive this season...so far they are not.
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Maybe thats on you. Anyone who knows anything about basketball could realize this team lacked talent. They beat Syracuse at MSG and played better in every game this year than last. Do you not think an Ollie coached team would not have lost to USF or UCF? Newsflash.............they would have been less competitive. Hurley has made adjustments. He tried to play fast. He tried to slow it down. Two ways to mask a lack of talent. Neither worked. Thats how bad this team is. There isn't even complimentary parts for a good coach to work with.
 
Walker11 said:
You said this mid September.

"I really don’t understand how anyone thinks this team won’t make the tournament this season. To say the talent isn’t there is absurd. The talent is there and now we have a staff who’s going to get the most out of it."
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I actually credit you for finding this, considering it perfectly contradicts what I’m saying now. But yeah I realize that was dumb
 
8893 said:
A healthy Alterique Gilbert and a better coach?
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But at the end of the day you still have the same team that wasn't good the year before. Gilbert is good but not enough to make a huge difference.

Most new head coaches don't have a great first season. Look at Hurley's first seasons at Wagner and URI. Not very good. I know it's hard for UConn fans to stomach but this is going to take time.
 
8893 said:
I think I watched a different game than others today. I’m blaming the flu. I just saw the post-game comments from Hurley and the team on the news and they are all downright giddy about their effort and performance today. I feel like I’m in the twilight zone.
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Today wasn't pretty at all. But that makes sense considering Jalen has forgotten how to play basketball. I don't think Hurley is a great X's & O's guy, but I never had that expectation. He is supposed to be a good talent evaluator, recruiter, and player developer. Let's see how his teams look after he can use his best tools.
 
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gampelcrazies said:
But at the end of the day you still have the same team that wasn't good the year before. Gilbert is good but not enough to make a huge difference.

Most new head coaches don't have a great first season. Look at Hurley's first seasons at Wagner and URI. Not very good. I know it's hard for UConn fans to stomach but this is going to take time.
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I’m not expecting great. I was expecting better than this though. And I’m even more disturbed that the post game comments from Hurley and the team show them all happy with today’s performance. I guess we’re supposed to just pretend that it’s true?
 
JimOllie said:
I made the handle as a high school senior after coming back from the 2014 Final Four. I thought Ollie was the king of the world. But listen, I’m not looking for an argument. We just have opposing views on this. I get your frustrations. It hasn’t been fun to be a UConn fan the past few years. I think we now have the guy to make it fun again, even if this season didn’t go as expected
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The season isn’t actually going all that differently than I expected.

@CTMike can confirm I texted him at halftime of the SCSU game to say the BY is in for a long year because the team stinks.

It’s the fact they stink but the coach who got 20 mill for 6 years seemingly doesn’t own any of the results that is absurd.
 
JMick said:
I don't think Hurley is a great X's & O's guy, but I never had that expectation. He is supposed to be a good talent evaluator, recruiter, and player developer. Let's see how his teams look after he can use his best tools.
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Call me crazy, but I want a great X's & O's guy. I'll be patient, but let's see some of that going forward.
 
Half the board thinks while Hurley makes millions, he’s responsible for showing improvement, with the former coaches guys. They are right.

Others believe he inherited a mess, Beat Cuse, have stayed within 10 pts of most good teams, and is making strides. He even has Sid & AG which Ollie didn’t. They are right.

When’s our first American win?
 
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whaler11 said:
The season isn’t actually going all that differently than I expected.

@CTMike can confirm I texted him at halftime of the SCSU game to say the BY is in for a long year because the team stinks.

It’s the fact they stink but the coach who got 20 mill for 6 years seemingly doesn’t own any of the results that is absurd.
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Are you saying that Hurley hasn't accepted any responsibility? Or are you just mad at the posters on this board? lol
 
JMick said:
ok thanks, so we're better
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LOL at Ollie hardo Stain liking this.

This is like Blimpie employees being proud it’s better than Subway.
 
8893 said:
And I’m even more disturbed that the post game comments from Hurley and the team show them all happy with today’s performance. I guess we’re supposed to just pretend that it’s true?
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Coachspeak is coachspeak. If his game prep begins to reflect the notion that they don't need to work on anything, then of course that'd be concerning. Substitution patterns/lack of halftime adjustments/etc. are far bigger deals (to me at least) than postgame comments.
 
whaler11 said:
The season isn’t actually going all that differently than I expected.

@CTMike can confirm I texted him at halftime of the SCSU game to say the BY is in for a long year because the team stinks.

It’s the fact they stink but the coach who got 20 mill for 6 years seemingly doesn’t own any of the results that is absurd.
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So if the team really stunk last year, and stinks this year, what should the coach own?

Should he own the slight improvement?
 
JMick said:
Are you saying that Hurley hasn't accepted any responsibility? Or are you just mad at the posters on this board? lol
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I’m just debating posters who are lamenting posters being critical of someone making TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS while being demolished by directional Florida schools.

Especially when those posters were talking the players and roster up 3 months ago.
 
whaler11 said:
The season isn’t actually going all that differently than I expected.

@CTMike can confirm I texted him at halftime of the SCSU game to say the BY is in for a long year because the team stinks.

It’s the fact they stink but the coach who got 20 mill for 6 years seemingly doesn’t own any of the results that is absurd.
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I personally think he is getting out of these guys what he can. I mean, come on our starting front court is Polley and Carlton. That’s more like an A10 front court but they’re the best Hurley’s got and he has the work with it. There are areas where Hurley’s coaching can and needs to improve but I have no doubt this program will be back very soon.
 
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JimOllie said:
I personally think he is getting out of these guys what he can. I mean, come on our starting front court is Polley and Carlton. That’s more like an A10 front court but they’re the best Hurley’s got and he has the work with it. There are areas where Hurley’s coaching can and needs to improve but I have no doubt this program will be back very soon.
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Hope you are more right about Hurley than you were about the roster a few short months ago.
 
JMick said:
Are you saying that Hurley hasn't accepted any responsibility? Or are you just mad at the posters on this board? lol
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He's just angry in general and looking to pick fights. Same as it ever was. I wonder how much he lost on LIU-Bryant earlier today.
 
I was one of the loudest voices wanting Ollie gone and wanting Hurley, I even wanted Hurley before we ever hired Ollie but no I don't think he's doing a good job with this group, it's all about results. I think he's trying like hell to reach Jalen because even though he's not nearly as good as we thought he is, he's still our best chance and should be good enough to beat the South Florida's.

If you were expecting Hurley to come in and have our offense looking really good you were mistaken (games against cupcakes and 14 made threes against Cuse were an illusion.) I've said he's not a great x's and o's guy (neither was Calhoun IMO) but he's a program builder (not saying he's Calhoun.)

Ollie tore down what we had and Hurley was brought in to build it back up. It's probably going to take a bit more time than I thought, it's why recruiting is paramount and he needs to show the door to a couple of kids.
 
whaler11 said:
I’m just debating posters who are lamenting posters being critical of someone making TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS while being demolished by directional Florida schools.
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lol oh ok. it's just a contrarian rant then. I'll let you be
 
BFieldHusky said:
Speaking on the scheme part. Hurley is playing his style. He's not playing zone. He would rather establish defensive principles, and culture for the guys who will be here next year.
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And once he gets guys who fit his style, we’ll start seeing a competent basketball team again. I’ll be the first to admit I expected this season to go better but I have lost no hope in what Hurley can do
 
To me this isn't complicated. For us to have success this year, we needed Jalen to step up and have a big year. He isn't. Tough to win games with him struggling.

We don't have any post play. We aren't a good shooting team. That makes us easy to defend.
 
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whaler11 said:
Hope you are more right about Hurley than you were about the roster a few short months ago.
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I can’t be any more wrong about Hurley than I was about the roster a few short months ago.
 
Stainmaster said:
Coachspeak is coachspeak. If his game prep begins to reflect the notion that they don't need to work on anything, then of course that'd be concerning. Substitution patterns/lack of halftime adjustments/etc. are far bigger deals (to me at least) than postgame comments.
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Have you watched any of their comments? I was shocked by the consensus that this was a good game, a good performance and the start of our turnaround. It was like bizarro world. I am officially expecting zero this season from here out because I don’t think anyone is even attempting to deal with reality. They are all burying their heads and hoping the season passes quickly.
 
JMick said:
lol oh ok. it's just a contrarian rant then. I'll let you be
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Wrong. The facts are he hasn’t done sqadoosh with this team.

I wouldn’t have bothered to point that out - but the entire premise that he can’t be criticized is ridiculous.
 
8893 said:
Have you watched any of their comments? I was shocked by the consensus that this was a good game, a good performance and the start of our turnaround. It was like bizarro world. I am officially expecting zero this season from here out because I don’t think anyone is even attempting to deal with reality. They are all burying their heads and hoping the season passes quickly.
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Again, I want to see if the player performance/in-game coaching is noticeably different next game before I dub consider Hurley and co. to be in denial.
 
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