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whaler11 said:
I’m just debating posters who are lamenting posters being critical of someone making TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS while being demolished by directional Florida schools.

Especially when those posters were talking the players and roster up 3 months ago.
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He's being paid 20 million dollars in the first year of his contract? Wow.
 
Stainmaster said:
How much of the college fund got lost on minor league hockey this past week?
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These jokes made no sense when you used them in the past.

Do yourself a favor and stop. You were as wrong as one could be about Ollie - so maybe this time listen and see if you can’t learn something.
 
ASweet3781 said:
Serious question. What adjustments did he make? They have been BLITZED in the 2nd half the last 3 games.

I don't like this culture focus. Yes it needs to improve. But the last coach who hyper focused on that was Diaco. You rebuild with winning winnable games. And as much as I loathe what Ollie did to this program and am disappointed with this current roster, the last 2 games were winnable. To pretend otherwise is just bizarre. People thought this team was heading in the right direction before that nova 2nd half. Now they can't possibly be expected to beat USF.
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He tried to adjust pace. First, by speeding things up. Now, by slowing things down after made shots. For a while, this team was something like top 30 in team scoring. We topped 80 pts in many of games when last year we went to overtime at home vs Monmouth and Columbia. Off the court, he is holding kids accountable, slowly changing what was a toxic culture. His efforts on the recruiting trail are quite noticeable. Most recently, with Akok. That doesn't happen with last years staff. This roster is so thin in almost every position there isn't much he can do. They don't execute.
Sure, the last two results were disappointing. But people on here don't have realistic expectations. This team was never a tournament team. This team has 3, maybe 4 players that should even be on the roster. A roster he inherited. It takes time. There is a big difference between inheriting a team because the last coach moved on to a better gig than inheriting a team from a fired coach for poor performance.
 
Danzz said:
It is Hurley's job to get the most out of the talent he has. So far he hasn't been able to do it despite improvements in some areas. There is no getting around that.
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I don't know. Maybe this is the most anyone could get out of this roster. Nobody wants to hear that, but it's realistic.
 
whaler11 said:
These jokes made no sense when they used them in the past.

Do yourself a favor and stop. You were as wrong as one could be about Ollie - so maybe this time listen and see if you can’t learn something.
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Most ludomaniacs can't tell that they have a problem. Although a gambling addiction is probably the least of yours.

I have nothing to learn from you, except this: if I ever exhibit signs of anger issues, I am going to get checked out immediately so I don't devolve into you.
 
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junglehusky said:
I don't know. Maybe this is the most anyone could get out of this roster. Nobody wants to hear that, but it's realistic.
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Maybe but if it’s only this much marginally better than what Ollie got of out them.... that’s a pretty scary thought.
 
Stainmaster said:
Most ludomaniacs can't tell that they have a problem. Although a gambling addiction is probably the least of yours.

I have nothing to learn from you, except this: if I ever exhibit signs of anger issues, I am going to get checked out immediately so I don't devolve into you.
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You seem pretty mad that I pointed out you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
whaler11 said:
You seem pretty mad that I pointed out you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I don't take pointers from people who are so far beneath my level of mental competenecy.
 
Stainmaster said:
I don't take pointers from people who are so far beneath my level of mental competenecy.
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Weird that your elite levels of mental competenecy don’t allow you to get anything right in your posts.
 
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This entire thread is funny to me.

Do we have Kansas-level or UNC-level talent on the roster this year? No.

But the fact that some of you honestly believe that we shouldn't expect a better coaching job with this roster is laughable.

Feel free to call me an Ollie sympathizer or expecting a Calhoun type performance unfairly. But this roster has kids who are certainly more highly regarded than their recent opponents, with enough dedication to drop 30 pounds in the offseason or play 38 minutes a game in previous years. Sorry, but Hurley needs to own this...
 
Stainmaster said:
I'm always right. Catch up.
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Stainmaster said:
Yeah, plenty of top candidates are going to be knocking down our door. Look at the great names other AAC schools have brought in: Johnny Dawkins, Mike Dunleavy Sr., Kelvin Sampson, Frank Haith. Definitely the kind of guys who are going to bring things back to Calhoun levels.
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Stainmaster said:
I am fine with Ollie going, regardless of what this board's dirty liars want you to think.

What differentiates me is that I'm not living in la la land when it comes to knowing how unattractive this job looks from the outside. You are all in for a massive disappointment.
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Stainmaster said:
If one needs to rebuild a program from the ground up, Randy Edsall was the best hire one could have made.

It's clear you don't follow the team so nothing you say on the topic is worth crap.

You're a horribly reactive child who should seriously take a break from sharing your inane "thoughts" with the rest of us.
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Stainmaster said:
I may have in the past. My stance evolved over time. I don't think people who wanted Ollie gone dating back to 2015 get special points for being "ahead of the curve." Many of us have different thresholds for what we view as over-the-line unacceptable. I needed a larger body of evidence than most to get to the point of thinking a change needs to be made.
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Here I thought elite minds were ahead of the curve.
 
UConnDan97 said:
This entire thread is funny to me.

Do we have Kansas-level or UNC-level talent on the roster this year? No.

But the fact that some of you honestly believe that we shouldn't expect a better coaching job with this roster is laughable.

Feel free to call me an Ollie sympathizer or expecting a Calhoun type performance unfairly. But this roster has kids who are certainly more highly regarded than their recent opponents, with enough dedication to drop 30 pounds in the offseason or play 38 minutes a game in previous years. Sorry, but Hurley needs to own this...
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In fairness to Hurley - I think he does, based on his statements the past few days he seems baffled on how to fix it.

It’s the lunacy from fellow fans that is crazytalk.
 
whaler11 said:
These jokes made no sense when you used them in the past.

Do yourself a favor and stop. You were as wrong as one could be about Ollie - so maybe this time listen and see if you can’t learn something.
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He cannot see the truth.
 
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whaler11 said:
CL made a funny. Lock the thread at it’s peak!
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Again, the username is a joke, but in actual defense of Ollie, he did not have the luxury of playing Gilbert or Wilson last year. He was stuck with David Onuorah and Antwoine Anderson. And while he dug his own grave with DO, he did not intend on playing AA that much and i don't think anyone blames him for giving Sid a scholarship versus finding someone definitively eligible.

Hurley is working with an objectively more talented and experienced roster than last year. To produce similar results (which I do not think he will) in the AAC would be a failure on his part, not just the players.
 
buddy said:
He cannot see the truth.
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What truth, that Alterique Gilbert would get injured in preseason practice or the first game of the year? That he's "done?"

You don't know the meaning of "truth." Get that word out of your mouth.
 
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whaler11 said:
You are joking right? The same lunatics who were posting about 5 and 6 seeds are now warning about expectations in the wake of a loss to USF... while constantly saying USF has improved (wow from 200 to 150! keep on trucking!)... isn’t an implication that expecting to beat USF is out of line.

You seriously can’t make it up. There are 15 posts about USF’s improvement. When every half decent team in the league kicks their teeth in I guess they were just lucky to survive such a good opponent.
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I'm not sure how this post is supposed to show me explicitly that someone said that "USF is good" in this thread. I must be joking for not being able to see that post, right?

Just waiting for the quote. You posted years of Stain's post history, but all I get is this incoherent rambling
 
auror said:
I'm not sure how this post is supposed to show me explicitly that someone said that "USF is good" in this thread. I must be joking for not being able to see that post, right?

Just waiting for the quote. You posted years of Stain's post history, but all I get is this incoherent rambling
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Note the word imply in my post. If you’d like to continue to deny that knock yourself out.
 
whaler11 said:
Note the word imply in my post. If you’d like to continue to deny that knock yourself out.
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If USF could move the goalposts like that, they might actually be good. I'm not seeing imply in these previous posts where you claimed it should be obvious to me where the posts claiming USF is good were.

whaler11 said:
USF is not good. Stop. They have a decent record because they beat teams that are beyond terrible.
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auror said:
Quote me someone who said this.
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whaler11 said:
You are kidding right? Do you have everyone but me in this thread on ignore?
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auror said:
I say again. No one has said that USF is good. I quoted the full exchange to make sure you are clear about the point I was making.
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auror said:
If USF could move the goalposts like that, they might actually be good. I'm not seeing imply in these previous posts where you claimed it should be obvious to me where the posts claiming USF is good were.
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You are correct nobody said USF is good.

What they said was that they have improved and we shouldnt expect to beat them.

That either implies USF is good or that UConn’s expectations should be so low that they shouldn’t be spending $72 million dollars a year on sports.
 
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