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businesslawyer said:
LOL. The proper response to my post was "Yes, you're right, he's still a schmuck but I took his words out of context." The fact that you can't say that leaves us with a thread that says far, far more about you than it does about our former coach.
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Your criticism that the quote was out of context assumes that O'Brien in fact actually said what Edsall quoted him as saying: that he wasn't committed to the program. That's an absurd assumption to make. Most rational people don't quit their jobs to go work for someone else by telling their boss that they lack commitment. That's a character flaw. O'Brien probably said words to the effect of "I don't want to play for you" or maybe even "I don't think your program works". Edsall read that rejection of him and his methods as revealing a character flaw ("this kid just doesn't want to put in the work") which is why Edsall characterized what O'Brien said as he did. Frankly, I find few things more humorous that an unsuccessful narcissist making a jackass out of himself, but I would be pretty upset about this if I were O'Brien.
 
We Love Him; We Hate Him.

I think some of us made the right call to let the past be just that. I won't quibble with the quote. But, it has been entirely Edsall's character to defuse the finger being pointed at him. Good coach? Sure. Really really smarmy public face. He can't help it.
 
Here's what FCHRE had to say about kids leaving during his radio interview this past weekend on Sports Reporters. It's not an interview you'd have ever read when he was at UConn.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...02/08/gIQAH9DBzQ_blog.html?wprss=rss_colleges
"SC: When a kid says, “I’m leaving,” do you sit down and ask him why, or are you like, “Okay, there’s the door.”
RE: No, you have discussions. What I think what happens is, not everyone is gonna want to to work with your company. You know, when there’s change and when somebody comes in, and there’s things that go on, no everybody’s going to be happy with change. Not everybody’s going to like . . . if there’s accountability, if they’re held to a higher standard. That’s everyday life. That’s what happens in everyday life: When there's change, sometimes it’s tough for people to change, and sometimes people might not like where they’re at on the depth chart. My whole thing is when they come in, I sit down, hear what they say, listen to what they say, and then if they don’t feel like they can be happy in this organization, and they want to move on, then hey, they can do that. The thing is, I don’t think I’m any different than any other coach, any other manager, any other supervisor. If people don’t want to be here, and don’t think that they can be happy being here, you’re gonna have a very tough time of having a very good team because now your chemistry, the camaraderie, isn’t what it’s gonna need to be in order to be successful, and that’s not only in sports, that’s in any organization that you’re involved with."
 
All 3 are not headed north - DOB has a man crush on Frnaklin and the OL is homesick and wants to go back to GA.

And the 3rd wants to play DB, not LB
 
NutmegState said:
Telling the world that Don Brown's 18 year old daughter was pregnant was way over the line. That wasn't anyone's business.

Randy Edsall is an balloon knots for that.
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I agree with that by the way. But how is it relevant to quoting someone out of context?
 
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businesslawyer said:
I agree with that by the way. But how is it relevant to quoting someone out of context?
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How do you know that Edsall's words weren't his translation of how the conversation went down? You're giving the benefit of the doubt to a guy with a proven track record of deflecting blame.

The Don Brown incident is relevant in terms of establishing a pattern of behavior.

I'll be curious to see what (if any) DOB's response is to Edsall's comment.
 
Boy these Edsall threads can be exhausting!
 
Dan O'Brien is transferring. obviously he's not committed to the program or he wouldn't be leaving. why is Edsall a dick for saying this again? to me being a dick is not granting a release, or saying that he's leaving because he's not good enough.

BTW i hate myself for adding to this thread
 
RE needs a pr lady like shawna from entourage
 
mattp said:
Dan O'Brien is transferring. obviously he's not committed to the program or he wouldn't be leaving. why is Edsall a dick for saying this again? to me being a dick is not granting a release, or saying that he's leaving because he's not good enough.

BTW i hate myself for adding to this thread
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Don't look now, but you might find out that O'Brien wanted to go to Vanderbilt, where his former offensive coach, is now the head coach, and Randy said no.
 
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-Huskiediehard- said:
over 6 pages. for sure.
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If we try hard enough, I think we can get it to 6 pages just debating how long the thread will be.

I think this will go at least 9 pages.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terrapins-insider


....and there you go. I wonder what competitive disadvantage Edsall will come up with for the the program by blocking the transfer to a non-conference program that Maryland does not have on the schedule, when he's allowed a transfer to come to UConn, and we've got a home and home coming up in the next two years?

O’Brien did request and was granted his release from Maryland. One stipulation: Maryland Coach Randy Edsall did not give O’Brien his release to transfer to Vanderbilt, according to an individual familiar with the discussion between O’Brien and Edsall. The head coach at Vanderbilt, of course, is James Franklin, the former offensive coordinator/head-coach-in-waiting at Maryland.
O’Brien chose Maryland a few years ago primarily to play for Franklin. If Edsall had allowed O’Brien to transfer to Vanderbilt, it’s unclear that O’Brien would have done so. But Edsall is not allowing O’Brien to make that move.
 
personally i think it's a dick move to keep him from going to his old OC, who very well may have recruited him, but he's still granting his release.
 
mattp said:
personally i think it's a dick move to keep him from going to his old OC, who very well may have recruited him, but he's still granting his release.
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Agreed. Whats the big deal? Not like it's an ACC school, either. O'Brien was not an Edsall recruit, one has to expect some players won't mesh with the new regime. Plus, Edsall should want to get rid of the players who were really causing problems in the locker room. Granted, O'Brien plays a pretty key position, and although he was atrocious last year, he did have a great season the year before.
 
But you got to wonder, why a Maryland linebacker can follow Don Brown to UConn, but a Maryland QB can't follow James Franklin to Vanderbilt.

That's what killed me when I found out. It's not unusual for coaches to block transfers within conferences, or even outside conferences. But not much consistency between granting a linebacker transfer to UConn following Don Brown, and then blocking the transfer of a quarterback to Vanderbilt following James Franklin. Especially when Maryland's got a home and home with UConn on the schedule, and Maryland doesn't have Vanderbilt on the schedule at all for the foreseeable future.

Things that make you go....hmmmm....
 
It really annoys the heck 0ut of me that some coaches treat their players like indentured servants when they want to leave. I could understand it if loyalty were an issue...but c'mon FHCRE, where was your loyalty when you left UConn the way you did. I'd say it's more about spite. Besides DOB is only one kid, and even if he does go to Vandy, it's doubtful he'd meet up against him within the next two years. He should be more worried if he goes to Towson or Temple or WVU or dare I say...UConn. :D
 
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Carl Spackler said:
But you got to wonder, why a Maryland linebacker can follow Don Brown to UConn, but a Maryland QB can't follow James Franklin to Vanderbilt.

That's what killed me when I found out. It's not unusual for coaches to block transfers within conferences, or even outside conferences. But not much consistency between granting a linebacker transfer to UConn following Don Brown, and then blocking the transfer of a quarterback to Vanderbilt following James Franklin. Especially when Maryland's got a home and home with UConn on the schedule, and Maryland doesn't have Vanderbilt on the schedule at all for the foreseeable future.

Things that make you go....hmmmm....
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Complete speculation on my point as to why Edsall refused is that O'Brien was widely reported to be the ring leader of the anti Edsall faction in the locker room. Petty as to may be, maybe Edsall didn't want a kid who tried to cause a mutiny to have his # 1 choice of school? If it was me, I would just let the kid go wherever he wants.
 
If I was the AD at Maryland I would have sat down with Edsall and asked if all this carnage was necessary. If I came away from that meeting not convinced that it was I would put Edsall on a very short leash. My guess is that is exactly where Edsall is right now.

His team laid down in that last game of the season with NC State. That was very telling to me. I would not be at all shocked if we never see Edsall at the Rent again.
 
I like Pudge's take on this. Edsall can't help being a dick, at least he comes across that way everytime he speaks publicly. I'm at the point where I wish haters and apologists alike just moved away from the dude. Damn I hope we win big this year to separate once and from all from the Edsall era.
 
noeynox said:
I like Pudge's take on this. Edsall can't help being a dick, at least he comes across that way everytime he speaks publicly. I'm at the point where I wish haters and apologists alike just moved away from the dude. Damn I hope we win big this year to separate once and from all from the Edsall era.
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i say we all collectively decide that if we beat Maryland this year, and he's no longer with them for the return trip in 2013, we never utter his name again and move on with our lives. even Randy Macho Man Savage is off limits because their names are too similar and it'll lead to a 6 page Edsall thread
 
Carl Spackler said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/terrapins-insider


....and there you go. I wonder what competitive disadvantage Edsall will come up with for the the program by blocking the transfer to a non-conference program that Maryland does not have on the schedule, when he's allowed a transfer to come to UConn, and we've got a home and home coming up in the next two years?

O’Brien did request and was granted his release from Maryland. One stipulation: Maryland Coach Randy Edsall did not give O’Brien his release to transfer to Vanderbilt, according to an individual familiar with the discussion between O’Brien and Edsall. The head coach at Vanderbilt, of course, is James Franklin, the former offensive coordinator/head-coach-in-waiting at Maryland.
O’Brien chose Maryland a few years ago primarily to play for Franklin. If Edsall had allowed O’Brien to transfer to Vanderbilt, it’s unclear that O’Brien would have done so. But Edsall is not allowing O’Brien to make that move.
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If he has graduated, or will graduate this spring, why does he need a release to transfer? Can't he just enroll as a graduate student and then play where ever he wants?

It will be interesting to see what his grad school major will be. Tough for a private school to be offering more graduate school options than a flagship state school. I am guessing Vandy has something that MD does not offer.
 
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If I read the article correctly, 24 kids have transferred so far, including 12 since the end of the season. Wow!
 
BNich said:
If I read the article correctly, 24 kids have transferred so far, including 12 since the end of the season. Wow!
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You are reading it wrong. That 24 includes transfers and players with eligibility remaining who did not return.
 
Edsall has always been a jerk in the media, but refusing to let a kid get a top tier education with a coach he loves is a new low for him.
 
Sean said:
Edsall has always been a jerk in the media, but refusing to let a kid get a top tier education with a coach he loves is a new low for him.
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I agree. Isn't it about the kids after all, turning them into men and letting them pursue careers/dreams?
 
A little more insight. O'Brien hosted Diggs on a January visit. RE asked OB not to make any announcements until Diggs signed. Not sure if RE knew OB wanted to play for Franklin at Vandy. So Diggs signs and OB is granted his release excluding Vandy. The DC media is all over Randy. Another classy move by out former coach.
 
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