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This has become just plain sad

Excalibur said:
Right. We should be happy with an ineffective coach because we can’t hope to do better. We should accept being a middling program in a middling conference because we can’t hope to do better. You’ve been consistent, at least . . .

Lest you want to make this about Donovan (admittedly the longest of long shots), your response to any suggestion has basically been “why would he want to coach here?”
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I think KO should be fired just as much as you do.

The difference is, you have baseless and irrational optimism about things getting better after that happens. I mean, if facing reality is too painful for you, do what you have to do.

Re. "why would he want to coach here?" I think that a bunch of UConn homers who have a more favorable view of the program than virtually the rest of the media and CBB community are poor gauges of how attractive the coaching job here is. You don't understand how permanently the last 3 years have damaged the brand. It doesn't get erased once KO leaves.
 
BUConn10 said:
"Be careful what you wish for" is only a valid point to be made IF your current head coach is NOT a steaming pile of incompetence. At this point we have nothing to lose, scratch that, we have everything to gain.
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Oh, it can very well be worse. Seeing you start to realize that will give me glee to no end.
 
Stairmaster said:
I am a more sensible, intelligent, and logical poster than you. As a matter of fact, my posts are superior to yours in every way imaginable.

You, on the other hand, post with the sense of a two-year-old having a temper tantrum.

I don't have to do any work to twist your words into nonsense. They already come out of your mouth that way.

You have to be a goshdarn vegetable to think I am arguing that KO be kept. Search through my post history and count how many times I have said that it's fine if he is fired. Again, all I am saying is that you are going to be incredibly disappointed at how the next coach's tenure goes. And I can't wait to see how you process it.
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Lmao
 
selles said:
Your general message of 'be careful what you wish for' is not wrong. But both Few (who was building off Monson) and Marshall had success much more quickly than you imply. That's not to say it would be easy to find the next Few or Marshall.
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It took Few 16 years to make an Elite 8. Gregg Marshall has made it past the 2nd Round twice in 10 years.

And you're darn tootin' it will not be easy to find the next Few or Marshall. I have yet to see a rational argument as to why it would be. Then again, I'm probably asking too much.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
@Stairmaster, you have posted a dozen times in the past six hours and garnered a total of 2 likes. One was for your criticism of a post that was quickly acknowledged as a joke. And, you've used the words "we" and "us," in addition to claiming that you are a voice of logic with a greater sense than anyone as to how UConn is seen in the real world, outside the bubble of the Boneyard. The first person plural needs something more robust than what I'm seeing in an already mature thread that has located a fair amount of common ground among quite recently hostile factions within the Boneyard fan base.
I must have missed your labored walk-through the landscape of logic that eludes the posters who have taken issue with your current flurry of posts. I can't locate myself among the alumni, the emotional, the delusional, or those living in the past. Nor can I find clarity, reason, or much sense in what you've written.
What has happened since you changed your long-necked avatar?
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I don't care about likes. This isn't a popularity contest. Likes have nothing to do with how right I am.

Also, you have 75% of the board on ignore, so it's not surprising that you don't realize I am not the only one espousing similar views.

I have made plenty of posts laying out the financial issues facing the program. The fantasies about negotiating the buyout down are being crafted by people trying to talk themselves into an "everything will be okay" scenario because they can't handle the alternative. I have also made plenty of posts illustrating the increasing comparative advantage mid-tier P5 schools are gaining within the college basketball landscape as a whole. Again, if you don't read my posts, that's on you -- take a search through my history.
 
Paesano said:
Look, I get the probability is low. But it was low when Calhoun was hired too. No one would have guessed what happened would happen. Hell, I wouldn't have guessed it in 1998. Crazy stuff happens sometimes and we have been crazy blessed. Maybe we hire a great basketball coach and we become relevant again. Maybe Edsell atones for his sins and builds us a solid football program. Maybe we get invited to the ACC and a new era begins.

To get there, no matter how unlikely, we need to take the first step. If we don't take a chance by hiring a coach with a chance to make us relevant, it definitely won't happen.
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And I'm saying it's fine to hire a coach who could bring us there. Key word "could" -- everyone here is taking it as a certainty that they will. What's the likelihood of said coach flaming out and leaving us in the same spot in March 2021?

Again, this is the route we have to go down. It's not an argument for keeping Ollie. But this is what the future may well hold, and it's very frustrating seeing how few people are prepared for that.
 
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zls44 said:
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LMAO, as if fifth-rate posters with the emotional control of unbroken puppies are capable of dunking on me.
 
Stairmaster said:
I don't care about likes. This isn't a popularity contest. Likes have nothing to do with how right I am.

Also, you have 75% of the board on ignore, so it's not surprising that you don't realize I am not the only one espousing similar views.

I have made plenty of posts laying out the financial issues facing the program. The fantasies about negotiating the buyout down are being crafted by people trying to talk themselves into an "everything will be okay" scenario because they can't handle the alternative. I have also made plenty of posts illustrating the increasing comparative advantage mid-tier P5 schools are gaining within the college basketball landscape as a whole. Again, if you don't read my posts, that's on you -- take a search through my history.
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17 posts, 2 likes :)
 
tentoes4rings said:
That’s why you’re so disliked, you’ve been so wrong for years.
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I don't care if a bunch of overly emotional rubes dislike me. I wear your dislike as a badge of honor, as well as proof that you can't handle the truth.
 
Stairmaster said:
I am a more sensible, intelligent, and logical poster than you. As a matter of fact, my posts are superior to yours in every way imaginable.

You, on the other hand, post with the sense of a two-year-old having a temper tantrum.

I don't have to do any work to twist your words into nonsense. They already come out of your mouth that way.

You have to be a goshdarn vegetable to think I am arguing that KO be kept. Search through my post history and count how many times I have said that it's fine if he is fired. Again, all I am saying is that you are going to be incredibly disappointed at how the next coach's tenure goes. And I can't wait to see how you process it.
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Lmao!
 
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Stairmaster said:
I think KO should be fired just as much as you do.

The difference is, you have baseless and irrational optimism about things getting better after that happens. I mean, if facing reality is too painful for you, do what you have to do.

Re. "why would he want to coach here?" I think that a bunch of UConn homers who have a more favorable view of the program than virtually the rest of the media and CBB community are poor gauges of how attractive the coaching job here is. You don't understand how permanently the last 3 years have damaged the brand. It doesn't get erased once KO leaves.
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Really the only thing up for debate is whether you think the next coach can produce a product better than what KO has produced the last 3 years or so, and what KO is likely to produce in the future. Obviously a Few or a Marshall (or a Donovan) would be on the high end of hopes and dreams, but KO has allowed for a significant base for growth that doesn’t involve getting into Few territory.
 
The program is a complete rebuild. The only question is do you let KO repeat the same process which will likely yield the same outcome or do you take a chance on somebody else. The sooner KO hits the door, the better.
 
It's really painful to watch a UConn basketball team get humiliated. Goes against everything the jersey has ever meant to see our team on the wrong end of multiple blowouts. Whatever needs to be done the contingencies should be put into motion now and decisions made by the end of the season. I never understood the 2 contract extensions in FB and BB and it narrows our options tremendously. But then you look at the cost of doing nothing which may be even higher and just shake your head.
 
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Stairmaster said:
I am a more sensible, intelligent, and logical poster than you. As a matter of fact, my posts are superior to yours in every way imaginable.

You, on the other hand, post with the sense of a two-year-old having a temper tantrum.

I don't have to do any work to twist your words into nonsense. They already come out of your mouth that way.

You have to be a goshdarn vegetable to think I am arguing that KO be kept. Search through my post history and count how many times I have said that it's fine if he is fired. Again, all I am saying is that you are going to be incredibly disappointed at how the next coach's tenure goes. And I can't wait to see how you process it.
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You have no way in Hell or knowing how the next coach’s tenure will go. Constantly repeating this garbage over and over again that the next coach is guaranteed to fail is insanely idiotic and annoying. To add to that you repeatedly claim you are in such a higher level of understanding and maturity than every poster here. Have you unlocked some higher plain of existence and foresight that the rest of us aren’t privy to? If not than stop being a pompous pain the the a** and let it gooo!!!
 
Stairmaster said:
I am a more sensible, intelligent, and logical poster than you. As a matter of fact, my posts are superior to yours in every way imaginable.
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At least he and a few others had the good sense to stay away from the insane "We Are Beating Auburn" thread before the game, unlike you who jumped on to the bandwagon early in the thread.
Why didn't your brilliant logic and intelligence tell you that it could be another Arkansas? That's the first thing I thought of when I first saw "Mark it down", but unfortunately my optimistic false hopes that he possibly might be right won out.
 
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