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The Worst Trait Belonging To UConn's Worst Point Guard Under Calhoun

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Huskybass said:
Are you really saying that Shabazz didn't have an outstanding junior season? I thought he was terrific in terms of both productivity and leadership. That represents major improvement over the year before. I'd love to hear your take on his 2012-13 season.
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(Yes, I know it's Spanish. Somehow for me, it makes it more funny.)
 
champs99and04 said:
Shabazz needs to compare himself to a guy like AJ Price, rather than Kemba. AJ Price is the player all of us hope Shabazz can become by his junior year. Right now he's playing more like Kemba, which he obviously cannot get away with because he's not nearly as talented. AJ Price wasn't the flashiest player, but he did make his teammates better and he was a reliable three point shooter.

Another thing: Earlier in the year, many of us were already calling Shabazz one of the top point guards in the country. He put up double digit assists, recorded a triple double, scored when he wanted to, and led us to victory over a very good Florida State team. His massive regression is what would make me believe he is hiding an injury. I'm not looking for excuses, it's just that it is very abnormal for a kid to go from one of the best point guards in the nation to a complete liability.

Sometimes it takes one good game for everything to click again. We forget how bad Kemba looked at times in the middle of the Big East schedule last year. He would still get his 15 ppg, play great defense, lead the team, etc., but there were a lot of 8 for 24 games mixed in there as well. I recall Kemba having a great game against Providence which got him back on track. If Shabazz goes out and drops 25 this weekend, all his struggles will soon be forgotten.
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A lot of people are forgetting what happened when Bazz had to be out of the lineup at times last year. It wasn't pretty. He is the essential player on our team for the upcoming year and God help us if he goes down.
 
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jibsey said:
A lot of people are forgetting what happened when Bazz had to be out of the lineup at times last year. It wasn't pretty. He is the essential player on our team for the upcoming year and God help us if he goes down.
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I don't think anyone has forgot, this is an old post that was upped
 
AZHuskiePop said:
I don't think Hobbs played for Calhoun. He was small bu a good player that understood his role.
I have a program in my UConn stuff with his autograph.
Steave Pikell was Calhoun's first PG.
But he played on that awful team when Clff Robinson and the other star were suspended. They had very limited options playing in the best conference in the US.
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You are right that Hobbs didn't play for Calhoun, but Tate George was Calhoun's first PG, I'll never forget watching him STRUT out leading the team at Calhoun's first midnight madness practice. That team finished with a lousy record, but was not horrible. And Pikiell, George, Cliffy, Gamble & crew were of course part of the NIT Championship team just a year later in Calhoun's 2nd season - most of the same players, just added back Cliffy & Phil. Pikiell might have logged some games at PG here and there, but mostly he was a SG and after his multiple shoulder issues a support player. I think Steve might have been at PG the very last game of that first Calhoun season and lit up MSG for a career high 27.
 
Dogdeacon said:
You are right that Hobbs didn't play for Calhoun, but Tate George was Calhoun's first PG, I'll never forget watching him STRUT out leading the team at Calhoun's first midnight madness practice. That team finished with a lousy record, but was not horrible. And Pikiell, George, Cliffy, Gamble & crew were of course part of the NIT Championship team just a year later in Calhoun's 2nd season - most of the same players, just added back Cliffy & Phil. Pikiell might have logged some games at PG here and there, but mostly he was a SG and after his multiple shoulder issues a support player. I think Steve might have been at PG the very last game of that first Calhoun season and lit up MSG for a career high 27.
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Pikells bio when he got his contract extension states he was Calhoun's first PG.
In JC system PG and SG could be difficult to distinguish between especially if there was a third guard out there. I will have to review the records to refresh my memory.

Hobbs was the Huskies all time assist leader after his career.
Still is number four. He had some good players around him as a freshman and Soph. The talent dropped off and he wasn't the kind of player to elevate his team.



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AZHuskiePop said:
Pikells bio when he got his contract extension states he was Calhoun's first PG.
In JC system PG and SG could be difficult to distinguish between especially if there was a third guard out there. I will have to review the records to refresh my memory.

Hobbs was the Huskies all time assist leader after his career.
Still is number four. He had some good players around him as a freshman and Soph. The talent dropped off and he wasn't the kind of player to elevate his team.



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Whatever the bio says, Tate George was a 4-year starter 1986/87-89/90 and I'd bet has at least 10 times* the career assists that Pikiell has. I liked Steve Pikiell a lot, but if he had more assists in any ONE game than George it was because George was hurt. Maybe I vaguely recall an upperclassman Tate playing 2-guard or even SF, but that would have been with Smitty running point.

I can't remember if Calhoun or Perno recruited Tate (probably Perno) but I'm pretty sure Perno recruited Pikiell. Tate George was Calhoun's first PG.

*Edit looked it up, I was a bit overzealous as Pikiell had about 165 assists for his career to 677 for Tate, good for 2nd all-time to this thread's patron saint Taliek Brown!
 
I am enjoying the progression of this thread. As far as dog days of summer topic postings go, searching through the archives for misguided posts is probably preferable to spending time outside in the death valley hot weather.
 
Waquoit said:
Hobbs? He was pretty good. Check out this SI account of perhaps his best week at UConn. Scroll down to the 3rd paragraph in the EAST section. Great quote by Hobbs: "That was an incredible play, a tremendous play on my part". I was there, it was!
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He said that to Dave Smith as Channel 3 was doing a post game show. When my son was calling his games Hobb's last two years at GW, I begged my son to ask him about that quote on the air.
 
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I haven't read any of the trainwreck that this thread has most likely become, but I have to wonder what this moron OP thought he was accomplishing by making this thread.
 
tzznandrew said:
You're right, in the sense that I think it must have been intentional understatement. I just wanted to post The Simpsons clip.
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Yes, I was being sarcastic. Shabazz made the leap last year, in every sense.

WHAT, DO YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SAY I duckKED UP?!?!?! I duckKED UP! DONT SHAKE YOUR HEAD AT ME, I duckKED UP! SHABAZZ WAS BEING COMPARED TO KEMBA AND TALEIK- THEY AREN'T BAD PLAYERS!!!

 
Dogdeacon said:
You are right that Hobbs didn't play for Calhoun, but Tate George was Calhoun's first PG,
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Tate was a Perno recruit so technically Pikell is JC's 1st PG.
 
I think we've all said things in low moments for the program out of frustration that we later came to regret. Thank goodness there was no Boneyard in 1993 when we lost to Lindsay Hunter State in the first round of the NIT, because I would have spent that summer posting about Calhoun needed to go - that we had one great season when we snuck up on everyone, but that the program was regressing. I was convinced that we needed a new direction - absolutely sure of it. I was 21 at the time, and didn't know it all, even though I thought I did.
 
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Gurleyman said:
I think we've all said things in low moments for the program out of frustration that we later came to regret. Thank goodness there was no Boneyard in 1993 when we lost to Lindsay Hunter State in the first round of the NIT, because I would have spent that summer posting about Calhoun needed to go - that we had one great season when we snuck up on everyone, but that the program was regressing. I was convinced that we needed a new direction - absolutely sure of it. I was 21 at the time, and didn't know it all, even though I thought I did.
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If I may, I thought your single worst PG was Kemba Walker as a sophomore. He single handedly cost you a tourney game by hogging the ball in the late stages of the last loss that season.

Of course, I also believe he was one of the best PG's I have ever seen play the game the next year.
 
Senore said:
If I may, I thought your single worst PG was Kemba Walker as a sophomore. He single handedly cost you a tourney game by hogging the ball in the late stages of the last loss that season.

Of course, I also believe he was one of the best PG's I have ever seen play the game the next year.
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Virginia Tech in the NIT? We lost that game when Kemba had a beautiful dump-down pass to Gavin Edwards in the final seconds down by one, who missed a bunny. Not sure what happened on the possessions before that, though - you may be right. The game didn't mean that much to me, so I didn't spend a lot of time thinking about it after it was over.
 
WHAT, DO YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SAY I duckKED UP?!?!?! I duckKED UP! DONT SHAKE YOUR HEAD AT ME, I duckKED UP! SHABAZZ WAS BEING COMPARED TO KEMBA AND TALEIK- THEY AREN'T BAD PLAYERS!!!

Perhaps
 
zls44 said:
I was really pissed at the time and I'm an idiot.

That's pretty much it.
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'Tis a rare thing to admit one is wrong on the internet.
 
Gurleyman said:
Virginia Tech in the NIT? We lost that game when Kemba had a beautiful dump-down pass to Gavin Edwards in the final seconds down by one, who missed a bunny. Not sure what happened on the possessions before that, though - you may be right. The game didn't mean that much to me, so I didn't spend a lot of time thinking about it after it was over.
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My bad. I guess it was his freshman year, in the tourney, when he decided he was more Dyson than Dyson or your other excellent guard were.
 
Senore said:
My bad. I guess it was his freshman year, in the tourney, when he decided he was more Dyson than Dyson or your other excellent guard were.
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He was certainly really bad in that FF loss to MSU. Two things about that, though:
  1. He was excellent in the Missouri game that got them to the Final Four
  2. There was no Dyson anymore, due to the injury, and so we needed someone to attack the rim. His FT shooting was what killed us more than anything: 3-9 from the line was awful. Michigan State really shut down AJ Price (5-20 from the field), and so they struggled to get much going.
 
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tzznandrew said:
He was certainly really bad in that FF loss to MSU. Two things about that, though:

  1. [ ]He was excellent in the Missouri game that got them to the Final Four
    [ ]There was no Dyson anymore, due to the injury, and so we needed someone to attack the rim. His FT shooting was what killed us more than anything: 3-9 from the line was awful. Michigan State really shut down AJ Price (5-20 from the field), and so they struggled to get much going.
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Its amazing the different perspectives people have of the same events. Here is my opinion:
1. Michigan State FF 2009 . The biggest factor in that loss was our weak bench. When Sticks got in foul trouble we had little option.
Heck Beverly played extensive minutes. I know he is a boneyard favorite but as a Soph he didn't belong on the court. Compare Dyson to Beverly.
2. 2010 the crunch time conflict between Dyson and Kemba cost us enough close games to keep us out of the NCAA. The NIT game with VT was a microcosm of the season. In my opinion that game was won as long as Kemba had the ball. Yes even as a Sophi Kemba was the superior option to Dyson at crunch time. Dyson with the ball and his penchant for going to the hoop were he forced things wasted possessions. I'm not a Dyson hater he was a great player that exercised poor judgement,but at that time Kemba obviously was a budding superstars. He had a much better feel for what was available. That's what is needed from a point especially at crunch time.
2011. pre-season AZHuskie voiced concern over the youth of that team. My reply was as long as Kemba stays healthy this team will be great. We got the best point guard in the country that was based on 2010 observations.



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Senore said:
My bad. I guess it was his freshman year, in the tourney, when he decided he was more Dyson than Dyson or your other excellent guard were.
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Possible that you may be thinking of the Syracuse 6OT game. I think Kemba might have forced up a bad shot or two in that game when we had chances to win it in OT. Although Dyson was hurt.
 
Danzz said:
No he wasn't pretty good overall. He was pretty bad. And that was an incredible play. The other posters are right, Hobbs was a Perno recruit.
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Who was pretty bad Danzz, Hobbs?

Actually was a pretty damn good undersized PG while a Husky!!
 
Dyson played as hard as you can play, but he never had a plan. Awhile back he admitted in an interview he never really got the value of preparation in college - studying film, scouting the opponent, reading scouting reports on yourself, etc.

It kind of explains everything. He could have gotten so much more out of all of the effort he put out, but he didn't play smart.
 
I really like Jerome. I have met him several times and he could not have been nicer. His game was always based on hustle and bounce, but he never really embraced the fundamentals. I hope he makes the most out of his current opportunity. I would love to see him in the league for a couple years.
 
tzznandrew said:
He was certainly really bad in that FF loss to MSU. Two things about that, though:

  1. [ ]He was excellent in the Missouri game that got them to the Final Four
    [ ]There was no Dyson anymore, due to the injury, and so we needed someone to attack the rim. His FT shooting was what killed us more than anything: 3-9 from the line was awful. Michigan State really shut down AJ Price (5-20 from the field), and so they struggled to get much going.
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One of the less talked-about storylines in 2011 was Kemba's chance at redemption. After the 2009 FF I felt so bad for Kemba, because I didn't think he'd get a chance to get back to the Final Four and erase the bad memories. I wonder to what extent he was driven by that during the 2011 season.
 
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