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Pats fan watching the Jets waste a roster I thought could win the division. What's the problem? Coaching? Rogers?
 
1) The coaching staff either stinks or is severely underperforming. 37 pts against Russ Wilson? A home loss to Bo Nix?
2) The tools they have on offense vs the actual production is shocking.
3) I'll say it. Rodgers looks like crap. He doesn't play with fire. He looks old moving around. I don't know if it's age catching up, rust from all that time off or both....but no one is afraid of him anymore.

4) Jets culture. It gets everyone. It can cut the legs out of the boldest man. You spend enough time in that organization and you become a loser. Period.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Pats fan watching the Jets waste a roster I thought could win the division. What's the problem? Coaching? Rogers?
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Yes.

Saleh has thrown 3 INTs and hasn't reached 200 yards passing in either game since he was fired.
 
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Husky25 said:
I don't think Mayo's job is on the line just yet...
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Rumors are swirling about Mayo.

My, my, my, how things can change? May not have been the best idea to call your players soft, no matter how much material he is down.

The ways the Bills are just eking out games, they don't appear to want to win the division, and the other three teams are showing zero sign that they can at the moment. The AFC East is a complete dumpster fire.

Thank the NFL gods for Jaylen Daniels and The Commanders for watchable football, even if it requires refreshing nefarious Internet streaming sites.
 
Deepster said:
1) The coaching staff either stinks or is severely underperforming. 37 pts against Russ Wilson? A home loss to Bo Nix?
2) The tools they have on offense vs the actual production is shocking.
3) I'll say it. Rodgers looks like crap. He doesn't play with fire. He looks old moving around. I don't know if it's age catching up, rust from all that time off or both....but no one is afraid of him anymore.

4) Jets culture. It gets everyone. It can cut the legs out of the boldest man. You spend enough time in that organization and you become a loser. Period.
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Latest is that Rogers has a hamstring and may not play against the Patriots. Sounds like "I'm too old to actually go out there, take hits and try if we aren't going to be a playoff team".
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Latest is that Rogers has a hamstring and may not play against the Patriots. Sounds like "I'm too old to actually go out there, take hits and try if we aren't going to be a playoff team".
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Ulbrich says Rodgers is playing Sunday.
 
Deepster said:
1) The coaching staff either stinks or is severely underperforming. 37 pts against Russ Wilson? A home loss to Bo Nix?
2) The tools they have on offense vs the actual production is shocking.
3) I'll say it. Rodgers looks like crap. He doesn't play with fire. He looks old moving around. I don't know if it's age catching up, rust from all that time off or both....but no one is afraid of him anymore.

4) Jets culture. It gets everyone. It can cut the legs out of the boldest man. You spend enough time in that organization and you become a loser. Period.
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They tried to patch together a team of players who had success in other places and it isn’t working. I would put that on coaching and the GM.

But…You probably could start with Woody Johnson. The team has been bad since he bought them.
 
Deepster said:
Apparently Adams gave a pretty passionate speech after practice today and Rodgers was glowing about it. No shot he’s sitting Sunday.
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www.espn.com

Adams: Speech my way of bringing new 'swag and culture' to Jets

While Davante Adams said his speech after the Steelers loss was his attempt to bring "a different type of swag and culture" to the Jets, his teammates commended it. "It came from the heart ... That dude is a real dude," Javon Kinlaw said.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

yeah…they needed this. Seems odd that a guy who has been there less than a week does this…but someone had to.

In desperate times…
 
I listened to a rather depressing Rich Cimini (ESPN) podcast today.

His thoughts…

- Rodgers is done after this season. He doesn’t see any circumstance where Rodgers comes back

- Douglas is unhappy and most likely walks after this year. His contract is up. He isn’t happy that Johnson basically took over GM duties.

- Reddick coming back is a joke. He only came back so he could be a FA after this season and put himself in a good position for FA. He will be all about looking for sacks and not care about run defense. He thinks they should bench Reddick…and at this point…I agree. Don’t let him use them to enhance his value. What an awful trade.

  • The clubhouse is lost…the team is a fantasy roster…no cohesion
  • The jet’s will look to trade up in the draft next year to try again to get a quarterback.
  • He can see them probably re-signing Sauce and Hall….but he wouldn’t be susprised it WIlson is traded.

So…where does that leave the Jets? No GM…no coach…no quarterback. And they are stuck with Woody Johnson. Fun.
 
Oh..and i forgot to mention…he thinks Rodgers is more banged up than he is letting on…and that Tyron Smith has back issues. And that Gipson is worthless and Corley should be given a chance.
 
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So..i think the Jets have an easy win tomorrow..but if they don’t…this team is blow up.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
So..i think the Jets have an easy win tomorrow..but if they don’t…this team is blow up.
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After all the nonsense with Reddick and Adams now here and the horrific start, if they lose this game? I’ll seriously question whether it’s healthy for me to continue rooting for this team.
 
The Jets are jockeying for the #1 draft pick.

Great comeback win for Brissette and the Pats. Maye out with a concussion.
 
Wow…they just play with no discipliine or confidence.

I put this all on Woody Williams. Firing Saleh has backfired and the team has regressed. They should have let Saleh make changes with the offense and go from there.

Now they might as well tank the season and start over. as @Deepster said…I don’t know if I am up for another 3-5 year cycle of new coach, QB….GM.

Bring on the hoops season.
 
As a Pats fan I’m not thrilled they won that game but when you play the Jets you run the risk of that happening despite your best intentions, I guess.
 
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This must have been 3-D chess at work. The Jets must know that the Rogers gambit is a failure and need a new rebuild. So they tank to help their rival's incompetent head coach keep the job.
 
Waquoit said:
This must have been 3-D chess at work. The Jets must know that the Rogers gambit is a failure and need a new rebuild. So they tank to help their rival's incompetent head coach keep the job.
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If only the Jets were that smart.
 
The good thing is I have absolutely zero connection or emotional tie to a single player on this current roster. In fact I hate all of them. I’m 57. Let’s see if they can figure a way out of this mess and maybe I’ll care again in 4-5 years.
 
GM Rodgers has turned the Jets into a complete dumpster fire. It frankly looks like Washington '13, when the star QB and owner pretty much colluded against the coaching staff. The only difference is that Saleh is no Shanahan.

The Jets don't have a positive culture and Johnson seems content to sell #8 jerseys, collect PSL fees and live off the revenue sharing money. To heck with the fans or play on the field. Seems very familiar to Snyder, prior to 2023. To that end, have fun trying to attract a quality coach or anything but "ME" players.
 
If the Jets had a decent kicker they are 5-3. How Legatron is still on the roster is beyond me.
 
Mike75 said:
If the Jets had a decent kicker they are 5-3. How Legatron is still on the roster is beyond me.
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Yes…Zuerlein has been bad this year…but he isn’t the reason they are so bad.
 
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The Cleveland Browns are 2-6, 1-3 at home, 138 pts for and 186 pts against.
The NY Giants are 2-6, 0-4 at home, 117 pts for and 175 pts against.
The Jets are 2-6, 1-2 at home, 150 pts for and 170 pts against.

Greg Zuerlein is not the issue. Aaron Rodgers, with much MUCH better weapons around him is playing as badly as Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones.
 
Deepster said:
The Cleveland Browns are 2-6, 1-3 at home, 138 pts for and 186 pts against.
The NY Giants are 2-6, 0-4 at home, 117 pts for and 175 pts against.
The Jets are 2-6, 1-2 at home, 150 pts for and 170 pts against.

Greg Zuerlein is not the issue. Aaron Rodgers, with much MUCH better weapons around him is playing as badly as Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones.
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I really have to wonder whether Rogers' Diva attitude is a negative in the locker room. The team watched players traded away to bring in his friends. It just sets a really bad tone for team unity. Also, as Pats DL said, he's just not moving like he used to. Breece Hall needs more carries.
 
I guess I'd ask you to clarify "diva".

I am not sure he primps around expecting to have a red carpet laid out for him....but I could believe that he openly backstabs or did not support Saleh in front of the team. One thing I'll say for Brady is he let Belichick chastise him the entire time they were together, knowing the roles on a team and what his reaction meant. Rodgers, on the other hand, could definitely contribute to a fractured clubhouse.
 
Deepster said:
The Cleveland Browns are 2-6, 1-3 at home, 138 pts for and 186 pts against.
The NY Giants are 2-6, 0-4 at home, 117 pts for and 175 pts against.
The Jets are 2-6, 1-2 at home, 150 pts for and 170 pts against.

Greg Zuerlein is not the issue. Aaron Rodgers, with much MUCH better weapons around him is playing as badly as Deshaun Watson and Daniel Jones.
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Two things can be true. Rodgers has generally played like crap, yet with a decent kicker the Jets are .500 or better.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I really have to wonder whether Rogers' Diva attitude is a negative in the locker room. The team watched players traded away to bring in his friends. It just sets a really bad tone for team unity. Also, as Pats DL said, he's just not moving like he used to. Breece Hall needs more carries.
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I think Rodgers is pretty banged up…hamstring…foot…knee. That’s why he isn’t moving well…oh that and being 40.

But…that doesn’t explain why he is having clock issues and missing receivers.

Rodgers is tough to figure out…if you listen to him talk he says all the right things. Except for the Mike WIlliams comments. The players seem to respect him and like him. But I do think the coaches seems to fear him. So…I do think there is a little diva there. I still would love to know the truth about the Saleh firing. I find it hard to believe ambassador Woody didn’t talk to Rodgers about it before he pulled the trigger.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
I think Rodgers is pretty banged up…hamstring…foot…knee. That’s why he isn’t moving well…oh that and being 40.

But…that doesn’t explain why he is having clock issues and missing receivers.

Rodgers is tough to figure out…if you listen to him talk he says all the right things. Except for the Mike WIlliams comments. The players seem to respect him and like him. But I do think the coaches seems to fear him. So…I do think there is a little diva there. I still would love to know the truth about the Saleh firing. I find it hard to believe ambassador Woody didn’t talk to Rodgers about it before he pulled the trigger.
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Let's say this.

Rodgers may not have directly supported firing Saleh....but he surely didn't petition to Woody to save his job.
 
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