Rodney Purvis- Transferring (BREAKING NEWS)

[Tenspro2002]

He sounds like the more scoring-focused point guard in our 2-ballhandler lineup (the Ben or Khalid to Samuel's Taliek or Ricky Moore). I like it.

 

[SouleMan]

He sounds like the more scoring-focused point guard in our 2-ballhandler lineup (the Ben or Khalid to Samuel's Taliek or Ricky Moore). I like it.

I don't even like what you said but reading those names just made me happy. I kid. This sounds pretty good to me.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Purvis is the NINTH player to transfer from NC State since the 2009-10 season and the SIXTH since Gottfried got there in April 2011. That seems incredible.

 

[Bryan Lord]

Calm down everyone, he's prolly Kentucky bound.

 

[Uconnalliance]

What's the reason he has to sit? Just curious don't know the rules

 

[specialisthusky]

Purvis is the NINTH player to transfer from NC State since the 2009-10 season and the SIXTH since Gottfried got there in April 2011. That seems incredible.

somebody check their APR score

 

[husky99]

What's the reason he has to sit? Just curious don't know the rules

Transfer rules

 

[BearJWS]

somebody check their APR score

Funny you mention it, UConn would need to look into Purvis's academic standing as well. If I remember correctly, he had some issues getting eligible for NC State by the NCAA last year. I assume he's doing well enough, since he was eligible to play, but just something to think about & hopefully in the past.

 

[3uconn]

Funny you mention it, UConn would need to look into Purvis's academic standing as well. If I remember correctly, he had some issues getting eligible for NC State by the NCAA last year. I assume he's doing well enough, since he was eligible to play, but just something to think about & hopefully in the past.

The main reason why he was looked into was that he was his high schools first D1 athlete. They look into that all the time especially when his high school was relatively new.

 

[methodology]

I gather it's a "southern" inside joke - be happy it makes no sense to you. I am.

Edit - I know that is where ECU is: what I don't know, and am happy to not know, is what makes going there different from going anywhere else in NC.

I'm pretty sure the comment was meant to mean that if Purvis goes to UConn he will be playing at ECU (kind of an LOL type comment to show the bad teams he would be playing against by transferring to UConn vs staying in the ACC)

Comment had nothing to do with saying Winston Salem is a better location. Just was making fun of UConn's conference and teams they will be playing. Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference.

MWC is probably a better bball conference top to bottom than the AMC. Outside of UConn, Cinci, Temple, Memphis there is nothing appealing. AMC is probably 7th best bball conference

 

[upstater]

I'm pretty sure the comment was meant to mean that if Purvis goes to UConn he will be playing at ECU (kind of an LOL type comment to show the bad teams he would be playing against by transferring to UConn vs staying in the ACC)

Comment had nothing to do with saying Winston Salem is a better location. Just was making fun of UConn's conference and teams they will be playing. Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference.

MWC is probably a better bball conference top to bottom than the AMC. Outside of UConn, Cinci, Temple, Memphis there is nothing appealing. AMC is probably 7th best bball conference

MWC is not a top to bottom better conference. Did you just see their colossal flameout? People need to look at the RPI of some of the former CUSA teams. Not as bad as people imagine. Just look for yourself.

 

[Hume]

I'm pretty sure the comment was meant to mean that if Purvis goes to UConn he will be playing at ECU (kind of an LOL type comment to show the bad teams he would be playing against by transferring to UConn vs staying in the ACC)

Comment had nothing to do with saying Winston Salem is a better location. Just was making fun of UConn's conference and teams they will be playing. Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference.

MWC is probably a better bball conference top to bottom than the AMC. Outside of UConn, Cinci, Temple, Memphis there is nothing appealing. AMC is probably 7th best bball conference

Did you honestly say the best bball conference in reference to the ACC? What decade are you living in? This year they were ranked the 4th best in RPI, which may be generous. Last year they were 6th ranked. 2010-2011 5th ranked. From 2005 on they have had the top ranked RPI only once. They have been 3rd or lower a lot more often then they have been 1 or 2 (once each I believe).

 

[methodology]

MWC is not a top to bottom better conference. Did you just see their colossal flameout? People need to look at the RPI of some of the former CUSA teams. Not as bad as people imagine. Just look for yourself.

RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

 

[methodology]

Did you honestly say the best bball conference in reference to the ACC? What decade are you living in? This year they were ranked the 4th best in RPI, which may be generous. Last year they were 6th ranked. 2010-2011 5th ranked. From 2005 on they have had the top ranked RPI only once. They have been 3rd or lower a lot more often then they have been 1 or 2 (once each I believe).

So adding Pitt, Cuse, Lville, ND wont make them the #1 bball conference...

RPI is such a bad barometer. I really wish they would stop referencing that

OK

 

[upstater]

RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

MWC falters EVERY year. Every single year. I had this discussion with ZLS before the tourney started, and I said that that conference is perennially overrated, and here we are again. The MWC sucks at basketball. CUSA is actually underrated. Teams like UCF and So. Mississippi do not get seen by many. Houston and SMU are bad--but given their recruiting the last year or so, one might expect them to rise. Houston recruited a stud last year.

 

[Husky68]

RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

In 2012 Florida Gulf Coast was #157 in Massey ratings and was 15-17. Not like teams can't get better quickly with one or two recruits and a good coaching hire. I remember when Uconn was a BE joke.

 

[M_Funkhauser43!]

I'm impressed that the "Rodney Purvis Transferring" thread has managed to segue, based off of an offhand comment on another message board that hardly anyone reads, into an analysis of dumpster-fire programs' RPIs. That said, this thread is going off the rails.

 

[Brochacho]

Don't know if this has been mentioned but the MWC schedules division II programs because they do not count towards the RPI. So while real schools play the lower teams and have their RPI lowered, theirs isn't affected at all.

 

[Hume]

RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

Ok so you don't like RPI. How about how many teams a league gets in the NCAA Tournament? The ACC has been fourth over the last 10 years. How about teams in the Sweet 16? The ACC is third over the past 10 years. Final Fours - 3rd. They are tied for the most championships, but depending on What Syracuse, Louisville does next weekend it could be a 3 way tie in that area. So once again how do you view the ACC as the best league. As far as next year Louisville will not be a member of the ACC and by the time they are you may not have UNC and a few other teams. Syracuse is a step up true, but Maryland will be gone and they have won a championship more recently then Pitt or Notre Dame. So I think the days of ACC being the dominant basketball conference are long gone, if they every truly existed.

 

[methodology]

Hume -

Is your reading comprehension poor?

I was referencing the future. When/if Purvis played for UConn it would be during the 2014-2015 season.

Lville, Cuse, ND, and Pitt will be in the ACC. ACC will be the best bball conference. Please tell me when I said ACC was the best bball conference today/right now.

 

[Hume]

Hume -

Is your reading comprehension poor?

I was referencing the future. When/if Purvis played for UConn it would be during the 2014-2015 season.

Lville, Cuse, ND, and Pitt will be in the ACC. ACC will be the best bball conference. Please tell me when I said ACC was the best bball conference today/right now.

My reading comprehension is fine. Your arguments are shifting how ever. Here is a direct quote from you. "Going from the best bball conference (ACC) to a mid major bball conference." No where did you say that they will be the best conference, which by the way is still open to debate. Furthermore when I sited RPI you defended the ACC as being the best by discounting RPI. Maybe if you at that point had said you meant you felt that in the future the ACC would be the best you might have a case. However, it seems your story is changing. Also I will repeat we are not sure what the ACC will look like when Louisville is in the league, as UNC may well be in the Big Ten. Syracuse may be on probation, and Notre Dame/Pittsburgh are good regular season teams that exit the NCAA tournaments consistently before many mid majors. So in 2 years the ACC may be the best conference, but right now they aren't, and there is no guarantee they will be.

 

[arnie3]

RPI is the equivalent of using batting average for deciding who the best hitter is... its not a very good barometer when there are better stats out there that do a better job of analyzing.

RPI has MWC as #1 conference in basketball... Do you believe that ranking? Also the Big East has faltered in the tourney a bunch in past years... Does that discount their prowess as the best bball conference during those years?

(kenpom/BPI/RPI/Average)

MWC: New Mexico (25/9/2/12), UNLV (42/26/22/30), SDSU (36/27/29/31), CSU (30/28/23/27), Wyoming (123/82/79/95), Boise (59/44/44/49), Air Force (107/89/71/89), Fresno (111/120/129/120), Nevada (180/174/171/175)

Average of the averages: 70
Median: 49

AMC: Tulsa (183/158/139/160), Tulane (146/145/179/157), UCF (138/123/102/121), UConn (53/40/49/47), Cinci (40/35/50/42), Houston (174/171/197/181), ECU (126/136/105/122), Memphis (41/18/14/24), Temple (61/56/41/53), SMU (182/168/218/189), USF (143/135/151/143)

Average of the averages: 113
Median: 122

If you take out Memphis, UConn, Cinci, Temple the average is 153

Give me a break even trying to defend this basketball conference. Outside of the top 4 they are a joke.

Using kenpom for your "methodology" is a joke. In 2011 when UConn won it all, he had them in his final analysis just cracking the top 10. Duke, which was destroyed by Arizona in the Sweet Sixteen was his number one team. Through the years his method has become less and less credible.

 

[johnhuskies95]

Using kenpom for your "methodology" is a joke. In 2011 when UConn won it all, he had them in his final analysis just cracking the top 10. Duke, which was destroyed by Arizona in the Sweet Sixteen was his number one team. Through the years his method has become less and less credible.

His method is generally pretty poor when it comes to predicting tournament success.

 

[PomonaHusky]

Don't know if this has been mentioned but the MWC schedules division II programs because they do not count towards the RPI. So while real schools play the lower teams and have their RPI lowered, theirs isn't affected at all.

Padding your win total vs Pan Handle State, Regis Univ (is there a Kathie Lee Univ too), La Verne Univ, San Diego Christian College, and Walla Walla Univ (to name a few), without taking an RPI hit......genius.
Some of those are NAIA programs.

 

[Leebo]

Most stuff is poor at predicting tournament success.