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Hearing people saying that he has the most NBA potential of the group. Hope he stays healthy and is able to display some of the skills. Another enticing development as we move forward in the season
 
But even if Sanogo is in foul trouble that means he's been playing minutes at the 5 to get those fouls. So unless it's a Hawkins like game to pick up his fouls that's still going to be Sanogo/Clingan. Johnson is definitely going to be getting minutes but it's just hard to see any avenue for minutes at the 5
Two quickies in the 1st half opens that avenue. If I recall, it happened to Okafor on his share of occasions.

All I am saying is that it looks like UConn has a decent solution for the situation. Regardless, if he's earned it, Johnson will get his.
 
If Samson is healthy I think it will be vital to play him next Joey C who is definitely struggling despite real effort against other guards taking him to the hoop. Samson might provide just enough rim protection that those guards may hesitate taking it all the way to the cup.
Joey c struggling? He got beat on two plays by Iowa State’s guard back to back but for the most part has drawn charges and played pretty good d. Much better than expected. Not to mention he’s almost like a mini ajax - all over the ball/floor and likes to mix it up. all we need is barely average d from him. His shot is what counts. Great spark off the bench.
 
Like some here I don't see a problem with minutes even if we play 10 deep.

It's not the amount of minutes these days but what you do with them that matters.
Certain players will get starter minutes as long as they are playing well and if not they will sit- no-one is transferring as long as they get in the game and prove they belong on the floor on that given day.

I would be more worried about this if we were ranked 30 and had to share time between 10 players.
(People can barley pay attention to a 8 second tic toc video these days) Getting 15 minutes vs 20 or 10 vs 15 will not matter over the course of the season to anyone that is going to be valuable to this team moving forward.
 
Like some here I don't see a problem with minutes even if we play 10 deep.

It's not the amount of minutes these days but what you do with them that matters.
Certain players will get starter minutes as long as they are playing well and if not they will sit- no-one is transferring as long as they get in the game and prove they belong on the floor on that given day.

I would be more worried about this if we were ranked 30 and had to share time between 10 players.
(People can barley pay attention to a 8 second tic toc video these days) Getting 15 minutes vs 20 or 10 vs 15 will not matter over the course of the season to anyone that is going to be valuable to this team moving forward.
Yeah. Winning sure does help with buy-in at lower minutes. And we're going to be in high profile games thanks to our high ranking so people will get talked about even with lesser minutes and there will be plenty of scouts and "draft experts" checking out our games.
 
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We don't agree. He's not going to eliminate our strength we have over everyone else in the country at the end of the season by only playing 7 guys. Even when we had no real depth to speak of Hurley played 8.
We are both saying that he will continue to play 10 during the regular season. That looks like agreeing. We deviate in the tournaments. No big deal, it's just opinions. And time will tell.
 
In terms of average minute breakouts, I think we are going to struggle to find minutes for everyone but in terms of average minutes per game on a normal night in ideal conditions, I would like to see it be something like this

pgNewton
28​
Calcaterra
8​
sgHawkins
28​
Diarra
8​
sfJackson
28​
Alleyne
20​
pfKaraban
20​
Johnson
20​
cSanogo
28​
Clingan
12​
200​
 
He hasn't proved it in games. The other guys have to this point. He's going to have to recover, play well in practices, and then show out in very limited minutes when he gets his chance. If I'm Hurley, I can't just hand over minutes from other bigs to him until he earns it in games.
I personally believe Hurley is gonna send out whoever gives us the best chance to win. You can say Sanogo earned a lot of minutes going forward, but the moment Hurley thinks someone else gives them a better chance to win in a spot, i bet he makes the switch regardless of what they have done.
 
In terms of average minute breakouts, I think we are going to struggle to find minutes for everyone but in terms of average minutes per game on a normal night in ideal conditions, I would like to see it be something like this

pgNewton
28​
Calcaterra
8​
sgHawkins
28​
Diarra
8​
sfJackson
28​
Alleyne
20​
pfKaraban
20​
Johnson
20​
cSanogo
28​
Clingan
12​
200​
Far too low on Clingan, too much for Alleyne and Johnson. If Joey keeps making shots and providing what he's providing he certainly needs more than 8 minutes.
 
In terms of average minute breakouts, I think we are going to struggle to find minutes for everyone but in terms of average minutes per game on a normal night in ideal conditions, I would like to see it be something like this

pgNewton
28​
Calcaterra
8​
sgHawkins
28​
Diarra
8​
sfJackson
28​
Alleyne
20​
pfKaraban
20​
Johnson
20​
cSanogo
28​
Clingan
12​
200​
Your Clingan minutes make no sense. He’s one of our best players and you want to lower his minutes?
 
Your Clingan minutes make no sense. He’s one of our best players and you want to lower his minutes?
I mean they may sense in that he's doing math or of CT 40 mins total. If you want Clingan to have more meetings then that means you want Sanogo to have less.
 
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In terms of average minute breakouts, I think we are going to struggle to find minutes for everyone but in terms of average minutes per game on a normal night in ideal conditions, I would like to see it be something like this

pgNewton
28​
Calcaterra
8​
sgHawkins
28​
Diarra
8​
sfJackson
28​
Alleyne
20​
pfKaraban
20​
Johnson
20​
cSanogo
28​
Clingan
12​
200​
In what universe does Johnson deserve 20 minutes per game and Clingan only 12? And why would Alleyne get 2.5 times as many minutes as Calcaterra?

You want the guys who are fueling the runs that break open games to sit more. Seems very off to me.
 
Joey isn't sitting that much I hope. Clingan should get more minutes but I think it depends on matchup and game flow how much time he pulls from Sanogo. I can't believe that we have this many guys fighting for quality time.
 
In terms of average minute breakouts, I think we are going to struggle to find minutes for everyone but in terms of average minutes per game on a normal night in ideal conditions, I would like to see it be something like this

pgNewton
28​
Calcaterra
8​
sgHawkins
28​
Diarra
8​
sfJackson
28​
Alleyne
20​
pfKaraban
20​
Johnson
20​
cSanogo
28​
Clingan
12​
200​
All opinion, obviously...
Clingan would be starting if anyone but a preseason conference POY was in front of him and Sanogo won't last 28 minutes on most nights.

Joey C. is not going to go from >20m/g to under 10 without a serious fall off in performance. He's also not really a point guard. He hangs out on the wing and, every once in a while, curls into the paint to shake his man and back to the 3pt line for an open (aforementioned) catch and shoot.

Karaban is the most consistent and versatile player on the team. he's not going from 28 to 20. He should be in the 25-28 range.

Take away the 5 minute performance vs. ISU, and Hawkins is playing about 23m/g. I think that is about right for him. Maybe a little higher. OTOH, he did no favors for himself with the bonehead deadball tech.

I think Jackson is still finding his way back. He still needs to play more under control and find his role on offense. If that is as a point forward (or point wing), then so be it, but he needs to find comfort in his shooting. Call me crazy but I am digging the 1st guy off the bench role at the moment, but it also looks like Alleyne's days as a starter might be numbered. Jackson is playing starter minutes.

At the end of the day, Johnson is still an unknown. He's played 17 minutes vs. a recent D1 upgrade. Let him work himself back, before just anointing him a 20m/g guy.
 
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Call me crazy but I am digging the 1st guy off the bench role at the moment, but it also looks like Alleyne's days as a starter might be numbered. Jackson is playing starter minutes.

Two things: (1) this is anecdotal and not scientific but it seems like the spurts where they blow games open generally happen with Jackson on the court, so I'd like to see him start. (2) I suspect Alleyne will find his shot but at the moment he's not giving us anything that Jackson doesn't. Start Andre and control the game from the jump.
 
i had a typo... I meant to say "If Samson is healthy I think it will be vital to play him next to Joey C" because Joey needs more rim protection than the other guards.

By the way it was unfair that I "replied" to yours as you were the last one I looked at before I was thinking about my post, I do apologize. It was not pointing at yours and yours alone at all. My bad
 
Two things: (1) this is anecdotal and not scientific but it seems like the spurts where they blow games open generally happen with Jackson on the court, so I'd like to see him start. (2) I suspect Alleyne will find his shot but at the moment he's not giving us anything that Jackson doesn't. Start Andre and control the game from the jump.
Agree with you on Jax..Alleyne didn't come here to be an ok guy.. He's a player.. He's overdue for a bust-out game
 
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I personally believe Hurley is gonna send out whoever gives us the best chance to win. You can say Sanogo earned a lot of minutes going forward, but the moment Hurley thinks someone else gives them a better chance to win in a spot, i bet he makes the switch regardless of what they have done.
Agreed. It starts in practice and then carries over to games. Hurley is no fool - he who performs gets positioned higher in the general rotation. Hot hands, foul troubles, and matchups then dictate the in-game details.
 
Agree with you on Jax..Alleyne didn't come here to be an ok guy.. He's a player.. He's overdue for a bust-out game
Yup...but he needs to come off the bench now. Maybe that will help him. He was downright awful against Iowa St. and seems to be the only one on the team that tries to play 1 on 1 hero ball outside the scope of the offense (I'd be more OK with this if he was ever successful). Still love his effort on D but think he's a better fit off the bench as our 6th/7th man.
 
Two things: (1) this is anecdotal and not scientific but it seems like the spurts where they blow games open generally happen with Jackson on the court, so I'd like to see him start. (2) I suspect Alleyne will find his shot but at the moment he's not giving us anything that Jackson doesn't. Start Andre and control the game from the jump.
I really like Jackson off the bench - when he comes in the other team has no idea what to do about him. Kinda “ we kinda lull them to sleep“ and then out he comes and whatever they had been doing that was working stops working.
 
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My guess SJs minutes will be limited as he works his way back from the injury. Don't want to over do it...especially with the depth we have. Depth is a good thing and SJ deserves some playing time. How much will be determined by how he looks when he's out there.
 
This is typical. As games get more meaning the bench gets shorter. During the 'win or go home' games the need to rest players is inversely proportional to the need to win.
So not gonna answer the question? Cool
 
So not gonna answer the question? Cool
I did answer your question when I said, 'This is typical." I should have been clearer by stating the reallocation of minutes is typical during tournament play. I can't predict the 8 or 7 players at this time. I do agree with your assessment that this roster has greater depth than any that I can remember. Of course, like an old PC, I do suffer memory leaks.
 
Same. Alleyne and Diarra need to show us what they’re here for if they wanna keep an athletic 6’10 defender off the floor. Joey I think has shown enough.

Tristen also
Newton is the starting point guard, and averaged more than 30 minutes at PK85. While his minutes have nowhere to go but down, I don't think he is losing PT to a 6'-10" Power Forward.

Diarra will cut into Newton's minutes if he can keep his TOs under control. Newton has 20, which I think is too many for a starting PG and a historic A/TO ratio of 1.46. OTOH, Newton's current ratio is 3 assists short of 2.0 and includes the 8 TOs vs ISU, which appear to be an outlier thus far.

Diarra and Alleyne will probably end up in the 10-15 min. range. Joey C. in the 15-20 minute range. I keep going back to the ISU game but it's tough to judge, given Hawkins performance and reaction to his deadball technical.
 
Two things: (1) this is anecdotal and not scientific but it seems like the spurts where they blow games open generally happen with Jackson on the court, so I'd like to see him start. (2) I suspect Alleyne will find his shot but at the moment he's not giving us anything that Jackson doesn't. Start Andre and control the game from the jump.

Was told Jackson is starting tonight. Only reason he didn't in Portland was because they didn't want to mix things up in the middle of a 4 day tournament.
 
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