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Try again, really? I don't in any way condone the use of violence. "Certain people hate Floyd, haters. Mayweather was wrong for hitting a woman or anybody else outside of the ring, period. Let's move on, he got help and hopefully learned from his mistakes. It's stupid to constantly dwell on the negative and to live in the past. He's done a lot of positive things also, talk about that. Move on, get a life and let Floyd live his. You sound like a an absolute hater and so does that writer.You have people in sports accused of rape and murder. Talk about them and leave Mayweather TFA... Not one person in the Philipines roots for this American fighter, while the majority of so called Americans root for Manny and ridicule Floyd every chance that they get. How Patriotic. True colors are showing bud.
 
noeynox said:
Roy got put to sleep after he moved up to heavyweight and tried to come back down. In his prime he whooped guys like Bernard Hopkins and James Toney and destroyed Montel Griffin in under a round in a rematch.
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I don't think he "whupped" Bernard or James. Montel is not even worth mentioning. He sure learned his lesson by moving up didn't he? You only move up if you can carry the weight and compete against heavier fighters. To do so without being able to do that is just foolish.. Move up in weight class just to prove a point and get knocked out in a way that ruins not only your career, but your legacy as well.
 
The media, especially ESPiN, made a big point of Mayweather's terrible past abusing women, but I didn't see one shot at HBO for letting Jim Lamply call the fight. I guess they forgot.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
The media, especially ESPiN, made a big point of Mayweather's terrible past abusing women, but I didn't see one shot at HBO for letting Jim Lamply call the fight. I guess they forgot.
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WOW! Unbelievable. What did Lampley do?
 
MilliniumPrince said:
The media, especially ESPiN, made a big point of Mayweather's terrible past abusing women, but I didn't see one shot at HBO for letting Jim Lamply call the fight. I guess they forgot.
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Or they understand the difference between "convicted" and "not charged".
 
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Before this thread I never would have guessed there was an overlap between Floyd Mayweather and women's college basketball fans.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
So a woman beater is only a lowlife if charges are filed...got it.
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The facts are that one man was convicted and sent to prison and the other was not even charged.

Setting your straw man aside, a reasonable person would see a chasm in the difference between the two.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
So a woman beater is only a lowlife if charges are filed...got it. Does he get extra points deducted because of the restraining order she had to file?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/2007-02-21-lampley_x.htm

http://thaboxingvoice.com/lampley-calling-the-kettle-black-in-mayweather-criticism/31664?var=no

And that wasn't his first rodeo. There was more than one POS at the ring on Saturday.
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Hypocrites.... People can change. I believe that Floyd has matured a lot. Nobody in this world is perfect. Floyd paid the price for his deeds. I really respected the way he praised Manny after the fight. I see a young man who has grown up. He has become one of my favorite fighters.
 
Fishy said:
The facts are that one man was convicted and sent to prison and the other was not even charged.

Setting your straw man aside, a reasonable person would see a chasm in the difference between the two.
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One man paid the price and the other one got away...smh
 
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Phillyconn said:
Hypocrites.... People can change. I believe that Floyd has matured a lot. Nobody in this world is perfect. Floyd paid the price for his deeds. I really respected the way he praised Manny after the fight. I see a young man who has grown up. He has become one of my favorite fighters.
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Dude, he's 38 years old. He went to jail as recently as when he was 35. The young man excuse is absurd. Nobody lets Chris Brown off with that excuse and he was a teenager when he got arrested.
 
Fishy said:
The facts are that one man was convicted and sent to prison and the other was not even charged.

Setting your straw man aside, a reasonable person would see a chasm in the difference between the two.
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Yelling strawman..great. The point was about media treatment. Two men, front and center, same event, different treatment. Media types wènt out of their way to "do their duty" to make sure Floyd's transgressions were the main topic. I have zero problem with this in most cases. Lamply broadcast s fights month after month yet those same gaurdians of virtue never mention any of his past. No call for HBO to replace him at least for this mega event just to send a message. Nothing but silence.

ESPiN has promoted through air time ever Mayweather fight for years with hardly a mention of his disgusting past. But they pick this stage to expose him with no mention of the past of the voice that would be heard through the entire fight. I find it to be a fraud, you don't. The world keeps on spinning lol
 
johnhuskies95 said:
Dude, he's 38 years old. He went to jail as recently as when he was 35. The young man excuse is absurd. Nobody lets Chris Brown off with that excuse and he was a teenager when he got arrested.
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He didn't get off, Lampley did. Thirty-five is young to me. So, what do you want to happen? You want to condemn him for the rest of his life? If the people he assaulted have forgiven him and moved on, why can't everybody else? Jealousy?
 
Phillyconn said:
A lot of boxers fight with injuries. Pac's camp wasted no time coming up with this shoulder issue, I call BS. Manny is not a gracious loser. Whereas Floyd had nothing but praise for Manny, after the fight. People who say Manny won that fight or even that it was close are either blind or crazy, maybe both. The way that Floyd controlled the fight was truly masterful. Am I the only one who sees that a lot of the biased opinions and attacks on Floyd are a product of hatred and jealousy. A blind man could see that. Absolutely shameful.
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funny how you dont have a long post history but now youre quite vocal with your flomosecsuality. Manny has a torn rotator cuff. floyd fought a one handed fighter who on a couple of ocassions was still able to catch floyd with some solid shots and back him up on the ropes. this really sucks because now in the eyes of manny this debate of whos better will go on forever. its floyds fault because he recently admitted to delaying the fight to make the money bigger. this fight shouldve happend years ago. now we`re left with still no closure to this. Manny is out for the next year and floyd is retiring. what a sad final chapter in the floyd manny saga.
 
MilliniumPrince said:
Yelling strawman..great. The point was about media treatment. Two men, front and center, same event, different treatment. Media types wènt out of their way to "do their duty" to make sure Floyd's transgressions were the main topic. I have zero problem with this in most cases. Lamply broadcast s fights month after month yet those same gaurdians of virtue never mention any of his past. No call for HBO to replace him at least for this mega event just to send a message. Nothing but silence.

ESPiN has promoted through air time ever Mayweather fight for years with hardly a mention of his disgusting past. But they pick this stage to expose him with no mention of the past of the voice that would be heard through the entire fight. I find it to be a fraud, you don't. The world keeps on spinning lol[/QUOTE
Nicely stated!
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Excalibur said:
Agree that Pacquiao's lack of aggression was a problem. You can attribute it to carryover from the Marquez knockout, or getting caught by Mayweather's straight right hand, but I thought Manny had opportunities where he had cut off the ring well but didn't attack at all when given the opportunity.
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Probably was mostly the significant tear in Paq's right shoulder that did it. Sustained 2.5 weeks before the fight. Out 9-12 months.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...-significant-tear-rotator-cuff-right-shoulder
 
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TheChamps990411 said:
funny how you dont have a long post history but now youre quite vocal with your flomosecsuality. Manny has a torn rotator cuff. floyd fought a one handed fighter who on a couple of ocassions was still able to catch floyd with some solid shots and back him up on the ropes. this really sucks because now in the eyes of manny this debate of whos better will go on forever. its floyds fault because he recently admitted to delaying the fight to make the money bigger. this fight shouldve happend years ago. now we`re left with still no closure to this. Manny is out for the next year and floyd is retiring. what a sad final chapter in the floyd manny saga.
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First of all what does post history have to do with anything? Flomosecsuality? Wtf.
As I said before, a lot of fighters fight with injuries buddy. Roach said that Manny was injured but was improving before the fight. You either postpone the fight or stfu! The fight was barely over and Manny's camp is screaming about this injured shoulder, totally classless! Hearns broke his hand against Hagler, but never once did he mention it. The Pacqiuo camp would not give Floyd one ounce of credit. Marquez put Manny to sleep, was he hurt then too? I've had surgery before to repair a torn rotator cuff, labrum and biceps tendon. I played football with it before surgery, my point is that he chose to fight so stop making excuses. You may debate, I sure won't. Floyd was always the better fighter, he could have knocked him out.
 
CAHUSKY said:
I'm a cynic. I think they are making this stuff up to use it as the storyline to try and fleece us out of another $99 next year. I'm not buying. The story or the rematch on PPV.
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I hear you.
 
Phillyconn said:
He didn't get off, Lampley did. Thirty-five is young to me. So, what do you want to happen? You want to condemn him for the rest of his life? If the people he assaulted have forgiven him and moved on, why can't everybody else? Jealousy?
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First off, you continue to move the goalposts here. Secondly, I root for Floyd pretty much every time he fights, I rooted for him against Manny. I pay for his fights. Comparing the personal lives of athletes is a dangerous game to play, which is why I think Deadspin and others are ridiculous with their faux moral superiority.

But if you don't think his past is at least somewhat representative of his character as a person, you're crazy. You've tried to make him a victim in all this with your "young black man" diatribe.
 
johnhuskies95 said:
First off, you continue to move the goalposts here. Secondly, I root for Floyd pretty much every time he fights, I rooted for him against Manny. I pay for his fights. Comparing the personal lives of athletes is a dangerous game to play, which is why I think Deadspin and others are ridiculous with their faux moral superiority.

But if you don't think his past is at least somewhat representative of his character as a person, you're crazy. You've tried to make him a victim in all this with your "young black man" diatribe.
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So what! If you don't think people can change in spite of their past, then you are crazy. It's called growing up, learning from your mistakes. IMHO, he is a victim somewhat. You don't have to let your past, define your future. People are jealous, of Floyd, it's like people look for any negative thing to try to ridicule the man. Let he who has never sinned, cast the first stone. Look at others, who get away with stuff because they're not Floyd. You just don't get it. There are a lot of people who abuse women everyday, and get away with it. It's called mental abuse, which can be more damaging than the physical abuse. Gotta run for now, I'll check back later.
 
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Phillyconn said:
I don't think he "whupped" Bernard or James. Montel is not even worth mentioning. He sure learned his lesson by moving up didn't he? You only move up if you can carry the weight and compete against heavier fighters. To do so without being able to do that is just foolish.. Move up in weight class just to prove a point and get knocked out in a way that ruins not only your career, but your legacy as well.
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They were virtual shutouts on the scorecards. Did either guy win a round? Roy ' s problem was he hung around too long and he lost his legs after moving up to heavyweight and trying to come back down to light heavy. Roy moved up to make history. Simultaneously held the light heavy and heavyweight titles. At his peak, I don't think I've ever seen a more a talented all around fighter. Amazing reflexes.
 
Fishy said:
The facts are that one man was convicted and sent to prison and the other was not even charged.

Setting your straw man aside, a reasonable person would see a chasm in the difference between the two.
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You lost me at "facts."

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noeynox said:
They were virtual shutouts on the scorecards. Did either guy win a round? Roy ' s problem was he hung around too long and he lost his legs after moving up to heavyweight and trying to come back down to light heavy. Roy moved up to make history. Simultaneously held the light heavy and heavyweight titles. At his peak, I don't think I've ever seen a more a talented all around fighter. Amazing reflexes.
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Sugar Ray Robinson.... Boxers with glass jaws, imho, are not great.
 
noeynox said:
They were virtual shutouts on the scorecards. Did either guy win a round? Roy ' s problem was he hung around too long and he lost his legs after moving up to heavyweight and trying to come back down to light heavy. Roy moved up to make history. Simultaneously held the light heavy and heavyweight titles. At his peak, I don't think I've ever seen a more a talented all around fighter. Amazing reflexes.
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I think Archie Moore won both, not sure though. Evander Holyfield won both titles. Would you say that Roy was better better than either of those guys? As a middle weight would you put him up there with Robinson, Fulmer or Hagler?
 
Phillyconn said:
I think Archie Moore won both, not sure though. Evander Holyfield won both titles. Would you say that Roy was better better than either of those guys? As a middle weight would you put him up there with Robinson, Fulmer or Hagler?
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Evander was a cruiser-weight not as a light heavy
Archie Moore was KOed by Rocky Marciano then lost to Floyd Patterson
when The Rock retired.
 
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Others beaten into bloody pulps…

…how about…

Sometimes When We Touch?

 
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