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superjohn said:
It's called messaging, Yankees never pretended to be what they aren't.
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LOL! They're touting young talent these days while doling out huge bucks to outsiders like Ellsbury and Stanton and probably Harper. Not pretending at all.
I have to admit I love the Trading Places aspect of all this. Yank fans calling Sox fans hypocrites through their tears.
 
Waquoit said:
LOL! They're touting young talent these days while doling out huge bucks to outsiders like Ellsbury and Stanton and probably Harper. Not pretending at all.
I have to admit I love the Trading Places aspect of all this. Yank fans calling Sox fans hypocrites through their tears.
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Yankees have a dynasty with homegrown talent, Boston ownership and fans shouting "evil empire." Red Sox are going to win a championship with the highest payroll in baseball, Red Sox fans we are just a team of homegrown talent. Yep, no hypocrisy, you guys are just a plucky bunch going up against and beating all the goliaths.
 
superjohn said:
Yankees have a dynasty with homegrown talent, Boston ownership and fans shouting "evil empire." Red Sox are going to win a championship with the highest payroll in baseball, Red Sox fans we are just a team of homegrown talent. Yep, no hypocrisy, you guys are just a plucky bunch going up against and beating all the goliaths.
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Who is saying that?
 
superjohn said:
It's called messaging, Yankees never pretended to be what they aren't.
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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that.

The Sox were ALWAYS second son. They would put up a competitive offer for someone, and the Yankees would always come over the top and usually not by only a little. Hey, It was what it was. I personally was never against the Yankees spending money. I wanted the Sox to do it, but smartly. What I hated was on whom, when, and why. It seemed like any player the Sox wanted or even kicked the tires on, the Yankees got. That's what made 2004 that much sweeter. MLB nixes an all but done deal to restructure A-Rod's salary with Super Agent Scott Boras, and Texas accepts a (What I thought at the time was) an inferior offer from the Yankees, merely because they could absorb his salary.
 
That was 2 decades ago, superjohn. The Sox were a dynasty in the 1910's. Same thing.
 
Guapo said:
Lol I have no problem with cheering on the highest paid team in baseball. I see you didn’t go back and read my other responses to you.
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Nor mine.
 
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superjohn said:
Yankees have a dynasty with homegrown talent, Boston ownership and fans shouting "evil empire." Red Sox are going to win a championship with the highest payroll in baseball, Red Sox fans we are just a team of homegrown talent. Yep, no hypocrisy, you guys are just a plucky bunch going up against and beating all the goliaths.
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What are you even talking about? Money isn't deciding who wins anymore. It keeps KC from winning for long, but that's about it. The Yankees were a poorly run organization most of the last decade. If anything they overpaid in prospects and in cash, for players they shouldn't have. Nobody in Boston has any illusions about whether it is one of the "big market" teams that has money to spend. It is. Has been for quite some time.

What matters is whether you spend that money wisely. So many big free agent signings end up hurting teams.
 
superjohn said:
Yankees have a dynasty with homegrown talent, Boston ownership and fans shouting "evil empire." Red Sox are going to win a championship with the highest payroll in baseball, Red Sox fans we are just a team of homegrown talent. Yep, no hypocrisy, you guys are just a plucky bunch going up against and beating all the goliaths.
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For a long time, this was true. The Yanks were so out of wack it was crazy. Enough so that it's all anybody talked about. These days, many clubs can and do spend; the Sox happen to be doing more so than most right now.

But much of it is tied up in two guys, Price (not so worthwhile on the whole) and JD (totally worth it).

And if you want to talk homegrown, the Sox entire outfield, plus most of the infield is homegrown. The staff is a mix of guys.

We got one hired gun bat (JD). You guys have one in Stanton. We've got one hired gun pitcher (a gun that doesn't even shoot half the time), and one stud we traded dearly for.
 
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Guapo said:
Watching Yankees fans slow decent into madness has been so much fun.

They simply can’t wrap their heads around the fact that they are little brother now.
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They can keep their Helms trophies. I’m sure that must be comforting.
 
Guapo said:
Watching Yankees fans slow decent into madness has been so much fun.

They simply can’t wrap their heads around the fact that they are little brother now.
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What I do like is that both of these clubs will be very good for the next 4-8 years or so. They both have a young, very talented corps.

MLB is better with Yanks/Sox going strong. Hopefully there gets to be a little more animosity.
 
HuskyHawk said:
What matters is whether you spend that money wisely. So many big free agent signings end up hurting teams.
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Without question. Just a few years ago, it was the Sox at the top of that list (guys like Panda - worst contract in history?, and before that Crawford).

No one in Boston thinks we're small market. No one with two brain cells to rub together. That's a relic of a time gone by.
 
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Guapo said:
Watching Yankees fans slow decent into madness has been so much fun.

They simply can’t wrap their heads around the fact that they are little brother now.
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I don't even understand what they are complaining about. They have no starting pitching beyond Severino, and while Stanton was good, he wasn't good for the money. Infield is pretty solid aside from a gaping talent hole at 1B. The money that went to Stanton should have gone elsewhere. There is a real chance that the Rays are better than the Yankees next year.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't even understand what they are complaining about. They have no starting pitching beyond Severino, and while Stanton was good, he wasn't good for the money. Infield is pretty solid aside from a gaping talent hole at 1B. The money that went to Stanton should have gone elsewhere. There is a real chance that the Rays are better than the Yankees next year.
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Let’s let the offseason play out. Very real chance the Yankees get Corbin and machado.
 
the Q said:
Let’s let the offseason play out. Very real chance the Yankees get Corbin and machado.
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I'd prefer to live in the Now. Someone (hopefully the Sox) has four more games to win first.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Jesus is anyone really still interested in these arguments?
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I guess guys who don't still have a team in the post season. I mean they have the free time.
 
intlzncster said:
For a long time, this was true. The Yanks were so out of wack it was crazy. Enough so that it's all anybody talked about. These days, many clubs can and do spend; the Sox happen to be doing more so than most right now.

But much of it is tied up in two guys, Price (not so worthwhile on the whole) and JD (totally worth it).

And if you want to talk homegrown, the Sox entire outfield, plus most of the infield is homegrown. The staff is a mix of guys.

We got one hired gun bat (JD). You guys have one in Stanton. We've got one hired gun pitcher (a gun that doesn't even shoot half the time), and one stud we traded dearly for.
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You seem like a level-headed guy, So I know you see the hypocrisy. The bulk of the Yankees dynasty was homegrown but because they had the highest payroll, Red Sox management called them the evil empire. The Red Sox bulk of it's team is homegrown and they have the highest payroll and crickets. I've never cared about the money but call it straight. The hypocrisy is something else.

Funny thing is I'm glad the Red Sox have won some titles, obviously I didn't like the amazing comeback/choke in 2004 but it wasn't much of a rivalry before. It was like Cards/Cubs or Celts/Knicks up until then. Close to half of my friends are Sox fans and was genuinely happy for them. Red Sox have the upper hand in recent history and Yankees have to get better to reverse that, it's now a rivalry. I just always hated the little sister's of the poor narrative because it was so far from being accurate.
 
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CL82 said:
I guess guys who don't still have a team in the post season. I mean they have the free time.
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You don't have free time because the Sox are still playing in the postseason? Are you a Red Sox player?
 
My takeaway from the above is that the Sox-Yanks rivalry isn't much of a rivalry according to sj. After all, the Sox have won 3 straight division titles and the Yanks have only beat the Sox once in the last 8 postseason games.
 
Larry Lucchino is not longer with the Boston Red Sox.
 
Waquoit said:
My takeaway from the above is that the Sox-Yanks rivalry isn't much of a rivalry according to sj. After all, the Sox have won 3 straight division titles and the Yanks have only beat the Sox once in the last 8 postseason games.
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You just admitted you can't read, well done.
 
superjohn said:
You seem like a level-headed guy, So I know you see the hypocrisy. The bulk of the Yankees dynasty was homegrown but because they had the highest payroll, Red Sox management called them the evil empire. The Red Sox bulk of it's team is homegrown and they have the highest payroll and crickets. I've never cared about the money but call it straight. The hypocrisy is something else.

Funny thing is I'm glad the Red Sox have won some titles, obviously I didn't like the amazing comeback/choke in 2004 but it wasn't much of a rivalry before. It was like Cards/Cubs or Celts/Knicks up until then. Close to half of my friends are Sox fans and was genuinely happy for them. Red Sox have the upper hand in recent history and Yankees have to get better to reverse that, it's now a rivalry. I just always hated the little sister's of the poor narrative because it was so far from being accurate.
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When Lucchino--a miserable snow of a man--said that, it was the bleating of a bitter guy who kept getting beat on the trail by better executives. People ran with it after that for a variety of reasons though.

In the general sense, the Yanks were the Evil Empire because they won so goshdarn often. For most it wasn't about about the money. It was like Geno calling the Lady Vols the Evil Empire when UCONN was coming up in the game. Evil Empire is a good euphemism for the team that wins all the time. In the NFL, that's the Patriots. NBA right now it's the Warriors.

Plus, in MLB, there was the George Steinbrenner factor. And there's no argument that that guy was a lightening rod. Made for the perfect Emperor.
 
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While I'd love to have Machado at third as a player, guy is such a tool and easy to dislike.
 
intlzncster said:
Don't knock one of the truly great moments in Yard history. Still can't believe we got world class gifs of the action post story telling.
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What was that, 2-3 years ago? What has Ern done for us lately?
 
storrsroars said:
What was that, 2-3 years ago? What has Ern done for us lately?
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A man can ride one great moment for eternity.

David tyree will not pay for a non-Jets-fan meal in NYC for the rest of his days.
 
Guapo said:
Watching Yankees fans slow decent into madness has been so much fun.

They simply can’t wrap their heads around the fact that they are little brother now.
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See this is the crap you idiots spew. Since baseball actually started in 2004 your fans are the biggest idiots in all of baseball. Can’t win without pointing and talking about the Yankees. You wonder why it’s so hard to congratulate you guys but you, Waq and a couple others just can’t act like you’ve been there. It’s kind of funny yet sad at the same time how you loathe in the “Yankee fans tears” (as if they even exist) rather than the team you just beat. Wow superjohn just save your keypad their not worth your time.
 
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