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OT: FBI has reportedly arrested several NCAA basketball assistant coaches.

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CL82 said:
Nah, I just get tired of people forgetting the scum that circles a lot of these guys while coming down on Calhoun who when compared to Self, Beoheim, Williams and their ilk is a paragon of virtue.
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I know what you mean. For years I suspected there was a lot more going on behind the scenes at Penn State than whatever happened to get reported publicly. There were always stories about players getting into all kinds of trouble, but it was routinely minimized, sanitized and swept under the rug. Paterno maintained a saintly personna no matter what went on. They zealously maintained that pristine image, far too zealously as we all eventually found out. Self and Kansas give me that same feeling.
 
I once met Self at a Louisville hotel. He was sitting at the adjacent table at breakfast. Looked pissed off the entire time.
 
UConnNick said:
I know what you mean. For years I suspected there was a lot more going on behind the scenes at Penn State than whatever happened to get reported publicly. There were always stories about players getting into all kinds of trouble, but it was routinely minimized, sanitized and swept under the rug. Paterno maintained a saintly personna no matter what went on. They zealously maintained that pristine image, far too zealously as we all eventually found out. Self and Kansas give me that same feeling.
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Everyone knew about Penn State. How does one of the top coordinators in the country never get a sniff of a head coaching job unless other programs knew to stay away from Sandusky?
 
BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
All Southern Cal players practiced today including players #8 & #9 in the complaint. Andy Enfield stated he expects all his players to be eligible. USC preseason Top 10. De'Anthony Melton (forgot if he is player #8 or #9) is a Draft Express 1st rounder and a rising Sophomore. I guess it is see ya on the hardwood??? lol

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I assume having ineligible players practice is not a violation. Let's see if they are allowed to play. Without these guys they won't be very good anyway. When you see this, what's the downside to cheating? They get a p5 check. So they were caught. In the long run it's still more profitable than a clean program,.
 
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This is HEARSAY:
I have a friend who is a fan/ booster of a major college team. He was at an event yesterday or Friday that included a US Attorney. The attorney presumably stated that one BIG school that will be outed is Ohio State. Also, 13 teams that were in the tournament last year are involved.

On the other hand, this (statement) may all be BS.
 
Storrsbred said:
This is HEARSAY:
I have a friend who is a fan/ booster of a major college team. He was at an event yesterday or Friday that included a US Attorney. The attorney presumably stated that one BIG school that will be outed is Ohio State. Also, 13 teams that were in the tournament last year are involved.

On the other hand, this (statement) may all be BS.
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.... and not even particularly good BS at that.

#trollbetter
 
Storrsbred said:
This is HEARSAY:
I have a friend who is a fan/ booster of a major college team. He was at an event yesterday or Friday that included a US Attorney. The attorney presumably stated that one BIG school that will be outed is Ohio State. Also, 13 teams that were in the tournament last year are involved.

On the other hand, this (statement) may all be BS.
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So I guess we are safe then.... :rolleyes:;)
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Everyone knew about Penn State. How does one of the top coordinators in the country never get a sniff of a head coaching job unless other programs knew to stay away from Sandusky?
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Sandusky had many offers.

The question is, why didn't he take them?

One thing that isn't talked about much in the wake of all this is the Second Mile charity. I think this is the real answer why he never moved on.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Everyone knew about Penn State. How does one of the top coordinators in the country never get a sniff of a head coaching job unless other programs knew to stay away from Sandusky?
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I still kick myself for promoting on the Boneyard that Sandusky should be the UCONN head coach when Edsall left....... Not my finest moment......
 
To the above post. The AP poll is about 3 weeks away. Just ask yourself 2 questions.

1) will there be post season bans before the first poll? Unless a school self imposes the answer is no. Will any school self impose? NO not before first poll. Most likely never.

2) will any preseason top 25 teams lose players either self imposed or via NCAA?

Assuming the net doesn't expand much in the next few weeks Zona, Miami and SoCal are the likely top 25 teams with potential player action (Miami with no players on the current roster targeted in the complaint). Louisville is toast. Bama is very crooked as is Auburn but Bama is just a fringe top 25 team right now. Not a good foreign trip for Bama. Although great lawyering could do the above teams wonders both criminally and from a regulatory perspective. Jmho

Usually I am very pro player on these issues. However I have flipped and hope the teams/players above get decimated both criminally (coaches) and by the NCAA. I probably am the only one here wishing such ill will on these teams/players. So I reluctantly take the minority position. :(
 
RichZ said:
Could well be a truthful statement, in sense of "I'm shocked that we got caught."
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Either way being incoptenent and ignorant should allow you to continue to be the head coach imo.
 
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Fishy said:
Are you kidding?

The guy's father coached Taliek Brown in the 1990's.

You don't know what a direct link is.
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Anyway, why would anyone pay for Taliek? We've all heard a "nationally recognized expert" state flat out that, "You can't win a National Championship with Taliek Brown as your point guard."
 
I can't get over how many people are shocked and disillusioned by this. Don't they have any knowledge of the history of college sports? When I was a sports mad kid (11-12 years old), I tried to read every sports history type book that my library had. MLB, NFL, college, etc. It was shocking to find out how thuggish baseball was before WWI, but nothing came close to how shocking the stuff going on in college football was (and basketball too, once it got going). Things far beyond this current scandal, Ivy League schools involved up to their necks. Paid players, slush finds, sex scandals, non students playing entire seasons. While they were eventually able to tone down the most outrageous stuff, they have never been able to really clean things up. There is no "good old days", when the sport was pure. It's been filthy since the beginning. When you accept that reality, you will be able to deal with the scandals, when they occasionally come to light. Cheating is a way of life, be it sports, business, or politics. As they say down in NASCAR country, "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'."
 
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A10 fan said:
I can't get over how many people are shocked and disillusioned by this. Don't they have any knowledge of the history of college sports? When I was a sports mad kid (11-12 years old), I tried to read every sports history type book that my library had. MLB, NFL, college, etc. It was shocking to find out how thuggish baseball was before WWI, but nothing came close to how shocking the stuff going on in college football was (and basketball too, once it got going). Things far beyond this current scandal, Ivy League schools involved up to their necks. Paid players, slush finds, sex scandals, non students playing entire seasons. While they were eventually able to tone down the most outrageous stuff, they have never been able to really clean things up. There is no "good old days", when the sport was pure. It's been filthy since the beginning. When you accept that reality, you will be able to deal with the scandals, when they occasionally come to light. Cheating is a way of life, be it sports, business, or politics. As they say down in NASCAR country, "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'."
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When the Ivy League schools were national powers in the late 1800's and first half of the 20th century, there were periods when they were famous for using non-student 'ringers' as players. Now we just don't bother making them attend real classes, which is sort of the same thing.
 
A10 fan said:
I can't get over how many people are shocked and disillusioned by this.
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I doubt there are many people who are chocked, and most are disappointed it took the FBI to address a mess that the NCAA has turned a blind eye to for years.

The overall reaction is schadenfreude, not disillusion.
 
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upstater said:
There's a problem here. People like Bilas are saying that college players have a market snd should be paid accordingly. But the market here is high school players wanted by shoe companies. So I think it is entirely appropriate to suggest that these kids are professionalizing a long time prior to college, and because of that, it really is an NBA issue mostly. The NBA should develop a pro league for 18 year olds. Whether that destroys CB or no is another story.
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Bilas is trying to solve a problem from 1993. This has moved far beyond a couple of used car dealers in Memphis paying a kid a couple thousand dollars because he plays for the local state U. I used to like him a lot, but he believes his own press to much.
 
RichZ said:
Anyway, why would anyone pay for Taliek? We've all heard a "nationally recognized expert" state flat out that, "You can't win a National Championship with Taliek Brown as your point guard."
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IDK, that shot he made vs. Pitt in the BET might have been worth $5k, maybe even $10k.
 
The first step is ending 1-done. While it doesn't end the problem it greatly reduces it. As for paying players that is irrelevant to the current scandal. There is no chance on earth that you'll pay a player enough to get him to turn down 6 figures from a shoe company. Honestly how much does Bilas think colleges are going to pay these guys? Let the guys who have enough game go to the NBA and let the college coaches coach.
 
freescooter said:
The first step is ending 1-done. While it doesn't end the problem it greatly reduces it. As for paying players that is irrelevant to the current scandal. There is no chance on earth that you'll pay a player enough to get him to turn down 6 figures from a shoe company. Honestly how much does Bilas think colleges are going to pay these guys? Let the guys who have enough game go to the NBA and let the college coaches coach.
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It's about as stupid as you going after JC because UConn did not prioritize academics like other universities. Yeah right.
 
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