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[NYUConn]

No doubt given Boise State CC delivers little to nothing compared with UT's massive student, alumni, and fan populations, overall athletic department, and university reach. No population, DMA, cities, nada, zip, zilch, etc. When some people mention Boise State and the Pac 12, it's comical. UT, not so comical and almost sensible should the Big 12 explode and the Pac 12 be willing to accommodate Bevo.

Hell they came a heartbeat away from welcoming them in 2010.

 

[Waquoit]

On like Donkey Kong? Well, there you have it!

 

[CoastAtlantic]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
It's on like Donkey Kong. UT is gonna do it. Took some cajoling by ESPN but LHN is gonna become B12N

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
Target in state/market subscription fee will be $0.65. Rest of the country $0.12

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
2 ACC schools very interested now in B12. Uconn and UC will almost assuredly be 11 and 12.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 what two?

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@TheFrogCastTCU FSU and Clemson.

TheFrogCast ‏@TheFrogCastTCU 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 hell to the yeah

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
UC and Uconn will get the conf it's pro rata increase. The next additions will require the contracts to be renegotiated.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
B12 members are all saying they will sign off on a GOR that will keep the conference intact until at least 2030 pending B12N

Bearcat's Fan ‏@Beacatbballfan 57m57 minutes ago
@MH ver3 is this in addition to expansion

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 57m57 minutes ago
@Beacatbballfan yes

Damian A. Garbero ‏@damianagarbero 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 how many schools will I take for the B12 to come up with sufficient inventory for their network?

MH er3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@damianagarbero 2 should do it for the short term. Going to 9 conference games will help with marquee inventory

Husky Army ‏@thehuskyarmy 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 when can we expect this to become official?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@thehuskyarmy June

Martin Ludi ‏@TeenLudi 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 *AAC

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@TeenLudi no it was ACC.

Martin Ludi ‏@TeenLudi 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 Just confused, you made it sound like Cin and UCONN were in ACC

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@TeenLudi was excited and not b character count on Twitter.

Mr. Smith ‏@BadChoiceMilk 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 @TeenLudi so you're saying UConn & Cinci in this summer w/ the ACC schools interested in becoming 13 & 14?

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@BadChoiceMilk @TeenLudi yes

Dave Ackermann ‏@ack4wvu 1h1 hour agoWheeling, WV
@MH ver3 i dont see UCONN making it

MH ver3‏@MH ver3
@ack4wvu Uconns 11 million tvs in market are absolutely detrimental to network.

Sameer Ohri ‏@sohri 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 @ack4wvu I don't think you know what that word means.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@sohri @ack4wvu sorry grammar police. Meant it would be detrimental to not have them.

Dave Ackermann ‏@ack4wvu 1h1 hour agoWheeling, WV
@MH ver3 there are 11M TV's in many other places

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@ack4wvu actually California and NY markets are the only two with that many.

Dave Ackermann ‏@ack4wvu 1h1 hour agoWheeling, WV
@MH ver3 UCONN would be in Big Ten instead of Rutgers if they controlled 11M TV's

Martin Ludi ‏@TeenLudi 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 if there are two ACC schools coming then why even bother going so far east for mediocre UCONN... That one still doesn't make sense

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 58m58 minutes ago
@TeenLudi two ACC schools are not a guarantee. B12 needs network and stability now.

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 59m59 minutes ago
@TeenLudi Uconn is a large state school with large endowment and access to a huge TV market in NY

Justin Sweeney ‏@justindsweeney 1h1 hour agoClovis, CA
@MH ver3 either you are involved in some pretty elite email/phone chains or you like discussing meetings that have never happened

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
@justindsweeney no but I have a friend who does have access.

 

[CoastAtlantic]

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports theDude's arguments have been persuasive: no ACCN leaves them open 2 Big12/B1G raid. What do they do?

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports Bowlsby & ACC have tied for Ostrich of the Year award. Bowlsby, thx 2 Boren, FINALLY woke up recently

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports It's difficult for me to believe ACC won't try to avoid inclusion on Wikipedia's defunct leagues page

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc You think the ACC isnt trying?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dun1870gc If you google the discovery docs in Maryland V ACC you can read a redacted version of the ACC's media assessment.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dun1870gc ESPN's liquid assets are tied up in SECN, NBA & NFL rights. 1/3

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dun1870gc So giving back content to the ACC only to pAy more for the same rights isn't economically feasible. 2/2

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dun1870gc The advantage the B12 has over ACC is, as odd as it sounds, LHN.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1h1 hour ago
@dun1870gc No startup costs for converting LHN to B12N & it turns the LHN loss into a B12N profit especially with expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 56m56 minutes ago
Texas isn't about to give up LHN unless the B12 GoR is extended to match term of LHN contract at the minimum.

greg ‏@85bevo 58m58 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV do you blame

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@85bevo No. I don't. Nobody can blame them. UT will have sacra the Big 12 twice.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 56m56 minutes ago
That means at least 4 years added to the GoR and maybe as many as 10.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 55m55 minutes ago
@dun1870gc ESPN losses are over $60M on LHN & climbing.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 54m54 minutes ago
@dun1870gc What can the ACC do? Hope Texas or ESPN/Fox get cold feet?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 53m53 minutes ago
@dun1870gc IMHO the ACC could boast revenues immediately by contracting. Dropping the deadweight.

Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 42m42 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @dun1870gc but ur saying the Big12 can prosper by adding deadweight?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 41m41 minutes ago
@hmpersinger3 @dun1870gc If the B1G can do it. So can the B12.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 59m59 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV What is best ACC response at this point? And are they really thirds good at being quiet or have I just not heard, very possible

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc You can ask @dennisdoddcbs how nervous the ACC is about the B12N.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 47m47 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs I believe ACC has more to be worried about than Big12. Given article on PAC12NET 2 weeks ago I see Big12 #3

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 47m47 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @dennisdoddcbs B12 already #3 in terms of revenue disbursed.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 42m42 minutes ago
@dun1870gc That will fluctuate some due to playoff & & NCAA tourney $ but, because of inflation, that final payout is devalued.

Dun Woody‏@dun1870gc
@theDudeofWV ACC eliminates deadweight (who?) but then do they try to add stronger program back? Who? UCF/USF other Big12 possibles?

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 51m51 minutes ago
@dun1870gc Stay at 12.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc According to docs submitted by MD the ACC's revenues are flat until the final year. They get (now) $22m.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 29m29 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV @hmpersinger3 What do you see final year projections with the four most likely expansion partners that you can envision?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc that formula is generally accepted as a good ballpark valuation.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
@dun1870gc Dodd used an insanely low in market carriage fee. SECN & BTN get double that out of market.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 22m22 minutes ago
@dun1870gc $1 per in market subscriber is more realistic but still conservative.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports #BYU Dennis, great article. @theDudeofWV has had same conjecture. Rumblings ACC launches their NET preemptively?

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 21m21 minutes ago
@dun1870gc @CBSSports @theDudeofWV Doesn't matter. ACC likely to pass Big 12 in revenue per school.

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dennisdoddcbs @dun1870gc @CBSSports How? Without an ACCN they have $22M in TV money.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 20m20 minutes ago
@dennisdoddcbs @dun1870gc @CBSSports According to the MD - ACC lawsuit that $22M does not escalate until final year of TV deal.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 17m17 minutes ago
@dennisdoddcbs @dun1870gc @CBSSports Add that $22M was originally $17M. ESPN added money a few times.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 12m12 minutes ago
@dun1870gc By the way the carriage fee Dodd used was for avg fee when in-mrkt & out-mrkt are combined. $0.60 a good estimate.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 9m9 minutes ago
@dun1870gc Bowlsby didn't fight expansion. The B12's primary TV contract doesn't add extra money for expansion.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 8m8 minutes ago
@dun1870gc Only the possibility of a network makes expansion feasible for the Big 12.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 7m7 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV I've agreed with you on everything UNTIL now. I'm outsider looking in, with BYU & BSU bias. To me, Bowlsby said no until Boren

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc It was Texas. Bowlsby isn't a strong leader.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 1m1 minute ago
@theDudeofWV Agreed on both counts. But Texas is Texas and won't change significantly. Again, though, is Bowlsby right guy? IMO hes PARROT

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 58s58 seconds ago
@dun1870gc That's why Boren & Gee acted. Because Texas is now reasonable.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1m1 minute ago
@dun1870gc Texas HAS changed. Powers & Dodds are gone. Fenves & Perrin are far more reasonable & want the B12 to last.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 6m6 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Maybe you can clear this up, at times its been stated TV contract would add additional monies for additional schools? Yes/no?

Christopher Lambert‏@theDudeofWV
@dun1870gc It adds money to maintain the payout. It does not add additional revenue for the 10 current members.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 5m5 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV Thanks, that's an important clarification.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 3m3 minutes ago
@dun1870gc Loss would be $2m & up per current 10 members with 2 added. That's $18M over the 9 years remaining.

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 5m5 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV If u think urhappy, imagine how happy BYU fans are. Dodds SEEMED 2b completely opposed 2 BYU. Glad TX wants a strong B12 future

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 1m1 minute ago
@dun1870gc Think about life in the B12 for Texas & OU versus anyplace else.

Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV 49s49 seconds ago
@dun1870gc TV revenue should be less than 40% of total budget of your program.

 

[MattMang23]

So why doesn't his "friend" just post these tweets?

 

[DarthGrumpy]

No doubt given Boise State CC delivers little to nothing compared with UT's massive student, alumni, and fan populations, overall athletic department, and university reach. No population, DMA, cities, nada, zip, zilch, etc. When some people mention Boise State and the Pac 12, it's comical. UT, not so comical and almost sensible should the Big 12 explode and the Pac 12 be willing to accommodate Bevo.

Agree, no disrespect to Boise St football; but Boise is the 110th largest TV market with roughly 260,000 households. UConn owns Hartford/New Haven, which is 30th, with about 997,000 households (not to mention many very affluent households) and that does not count the presence that UConn has in the NYC market (best guess, Farifield County is 10% of NYC's 7.384 million households or 738,000 households).

Cincinnati is 34th at 898,000, Memphis is 49th with 662,000, Houston is 10th with 2.215 million; but, the XII is already there, Tampa is 14th with 1.806 million, and Orlando is 18th with 1.453 million; but, U Florida & Florida St are likely larger in both markets than USF and UCF respectively.

 

[husky210]

Dennis dodd is probably like get me outta this conversation

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports theDude's arguments have been persuasive: no ACCN leaves them open 2 Big12/B1G raid. What do they do?

Dun Woody ‏@dun1870gc 2h2 hours ago
@theDudeofWV @dennisdoddcbs @CBSSports Bowlsby & ACC have tied for Ostrich of the Year award. Bowlsby, thx 2 Boren, FINALLY woke up recently

etc...

In summary, the fate of the XII rests in Texas's hands as it always have. The decsin for them is if they will get more money and power now with the current LHN and XII structure and then jump to another league (PAC/SEC/B1G/ACC) in 10 or less years or do they get more of both my giving-up the LHN for the greater good of the XII for the long-term.

The options are:

1. No change: XII likely falls apart before the GOR expires due to the amount of money (and frustration) offered to Oklahoma by the B1G or SEC with several other members (Kansas, OK St?) following them out the door. ACC survives.
   
2. Add 2, keep LHN: XII reluctantly adds some combination of Cincinnati/Memphis/Houston, LHN remains intact as such additional are not enough to create a viable network; but, this likely keeps the XII intact until the GOR expires. ACC surives as long as it can get a network in place before the GOR expires.
   
3. Add 2, LHN becomes XII Network: XII adds some combination of BYU/Cincinati/UConn which allows the LHN to change to a the XII network and then adds 2 to 8 additional schools when the ACC falls apart.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

In summary, the fate of the XII rests in Texas's hands as it always have. The decsin for them is if they will get more money and power now with the current LHN and XII structure and then jump to another league (PAC/SEC/B1G/ACC) in 10 or less years or do they get more of both my giving-up the LHN for the greater good of the XII for the long-term.

The options are:

1. No change: XII likely falls apart before the GOR expires due to the amount of money (and frustration) offered to Oklahoma by the B1G or SEC with several other members (Kansas, OK St?) following them out the door. ACC survives.
   
2. Add 2, keep LHN: XII reluctantly adds some combination of Cincinnati/Memphis/Houston, LHN remains intact as such additional are not enough to create a viable network; but, this likely keeps the XII intact until the GOR expires. ACC surives as long as it can get a network in place before the GOR expires.
   
3. Add 2, LHN becomes XII Network: XII adds some combination of BYU/Cincinati/UConn which allows the LHN to change to a the XII network and then adds 2 to 8 additional schools when the ACC falls apart.

What is the point of analyzing the Dude's ACC Apocalypse fantasies?

 

[jlarson]

Folks, here is the real truth about @flugempire so you can understand what is taking place.

He's some Gopher realignment junkie, with delusions of grandeur, who used to post on the WVU scout board, got acquainted with The Dude of WV/Atomic Noodle there, became twitter friends with the Dude of WV, eventually didn't like what the original Dude was tweeting, and then devoted his twitter account to de-legitimizing the WV dude, and promoting his own fake Big 10 credentials.

Big Ten Man (BTM) is fake. There is no Big Ten Man.

For those that follow his tweets, now think about what you have read on this tweets and think about what I posted in this post.

There is none from any school that reached out to flugempire to say x and y school will be expanding with the Big 12. He simply went off of chatter from the media and web forums.

I am sure some people want to believe he has real info, but he doesn't. He is a fraud. A fake. He has no sources. His entire conference realignment stuff is to discredit Dude of WV. He loves to say Dude of WV has mental issues, but flugempire is the one that has more issues since he has devoted the entire conference realignment stuff to try and discredit Dude of WV.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Folks, here is the real truth about @flugempire so you can understand what is taking place.

He's some Gopher realignment junkie, with delusions of grandeur, who used to post on the WVU scout board, got acquainted with The Dude of WV/Atomic Noodle there, became twitter friends with the Dude of WV, eventually didn't like what the original Dude was tweeting, and then devoted his twitter account to de-legitimizing the WV dude, and promoting his own fake Big 10 credentials.

Big Ten Man (BTM) is fake. There is no Big Ten Man.

For those that follow his tweets, now think about what you have read on this tweets and think about what I posted in this post.

There is none from any school that reached out to flugempire to say x and y school will be expanding with the Big 12. He simply went off of chatter from the media and web forums.

I am sure some people want to believe he has real info, but he doesn't. He is a fraud. A fake. He has no sources. His entire conference realignment stuff is to discredit Dude of WV. He loves to say Dude of WV has mental issues, but flugempire is the one that has more issues since he has devoted the entire conference realignment stuff to try and discredit Dude of WV.

Thank you Mr. Lambert for your interest in UConn athletics.

 

[Fishy]

Recap:

Crazy person says that a crazy person was friends with another crazy person and then the relationship between the two crazy people went crazy and one crazy person is trying to make everyone think that the other crazy person is crazy.

 

[CL82]

Bes



Best Quote above:

"Mo Persinger ‏@hmpersinger3 4m4 minutes ago
@theDudeofWV cause you make it so irresistible. $8M for UConn? Cmon! If that were even remotely true, ACC would have them"

Obviously, the ACC would never make a mistake in expansion selection. I mean if UConn was a P5 school they would be in the P5.

There is a reason the ACC is not getting a network and it is in large part due to the failure to retain and expand wisely. Passing on UConn is part of that failure. Why other fans can't figure this out I have no idea.

Personally, I look forward to the upcoming steel cage death match between the ACC schools for the limited spots in the SEC/BIG. If the ACC does not get a network then it is not "if" but instead "how long until" ACC teams bail for the network conferences.

"The way things are is the way things will always be." It's the siren song of the simple minded.

 

[NYUConn]

Folks, here is the real truth about @flugempire so you can understand what is taking place.

He's some Gopher realignment junkie, with delusions of grandeur, who used to post on the WVU scout board, got acquainted with The Dude of WV/Atomic Noodle there, became twitter friends with the Dude of WV, eventually didn't like what the original Dude was tweeting, and then devoted his twitter account to de-legitimizing the WV dude, and promoting his own fake Big 10 credentials.

Big Ten Man (BTM) is fake. There is no Big Ten Man.

For those that follow his tweets, now think about what you have read on this tweets and think about what I posted in this post.

There is none from any school that reached out to flugempire to say x and y school will be expanding with the Big 12. He simply went off of chatter from the media and web forums.

I am sure some people want to believe he has real info, but he doesn't. He is a fraud. A fake. He has no sources. His entire conference realignment stuff is to discredit Dude of WV. He loves to say Dude of WV has mental issues, but flugempire is the one that has more issues since he has devoted the entire conference realignment stuff to try and discredit Dude of WV.

What the did I just read?

 

[BoatShow]

So Flugaur isn't a super connected CR nostradomus? Cancel the athletic department.

 

[CL82]

Anyone else notice that one of these yahoos is using Dooley's 11 million number for UConn's reach?

 

[Jimdish255]

"The way things are is the way things will always be." It's the siren song of the simple minded.

I was an idiot for trying to explain anything to that guy.

 

[spsct]

Recap:

Crazy person says that a crazy person was friends with another crazy person and then the relationship between the two crazy people went crazy and one crazy person is trying to make everyone think that the other crazy person is crazy.

That's crazy...

 

[uchusky32]

What's so dumb is this notion that 9 football games make a network. How in God's earth would Boise fill anytime slots on a network. Those stuck with football drives the bus totally missed what the B1G did. Maryland/Rutroh wasn't about football.

BYU works for NBC a national network. Fans spread across the country but for a regional network in another time zone with the B12 only having WV in the most populated time zone gets trumped by Uconn. My opinion Uconn football becomes relative fairly quickly in the B12. And KU/Uconn basketball becomes primetime rivalry game played before Duke/Unc.

 

[billybud]

Yeah, I can't imagine that FSU would find Texas recruiting appealing at all.

Like WVU has? They have given up on Texas! Like Kansas State...three 2 star guys out of twenty commits..NO! Like Iowa State?

No.....FSU just signed the #2 class with kids from NY, Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington DC....in addition to Florida. The school is an eastern program...Texas is west.

FSU to the Big 12 is a feverish fantasy, akin to a post about sheep,a blindfold, and handcuffs.

 

[Kgun7]

MH ver3 ‏@MH ver3 1h1 hour ago
It's on like Donkey Kong. UT is gonna do it. Took some cajoling by ESPN but LHN is gonna become B12N

Martin Ludi ‏@TeenLudi 1h1 hour ago
@MH ver3 if there are two ACC schools coming then why even bother going so far east for mediocre UCONN... That one still doesn't make sense

Mediocre at what?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Honestly I always considered everything west of Iowa and Minnesota "Plains states" and everything west of Nebraska, Kansas and the Dakotas the Mountain West.

Being from Kansas, we always considered it the midwest. But that was eastern KS, near KC. Western KS is really almost "southwest". It's no different than anywhere. Storrs is certainly "New England", while Fairfield is more "NY". These state lines are pretty arbitrary.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Recap:

Crazy person says that a crazy person was friends with another crazy person and then the relationship between the two crazy people went crazy and one crazy person is trying to make everyone think that the other crazy person is crazy.

That is so cra cra

 

[CTMike]

Folks, here is the real truth about @flugempire so you can understand what is taking place.

He's some Gopher realignment junkie, with delusions of grandeur, who used to post on the WVU scout board, got acquainted with The Dude of WV/Atomic Noodle there, became twitter friends with the Dude of WV, eventually didn't like what the original Dude was tweeting, and then devoted his twitter account to de-legitimizing the WV dude, and promoting his own fake Big 10 credentials.

Big Ten Man (BTM) is fake. There is no Big Ten Man.

For those that follow his tweets, now think about what you have read on this tweets and think about what I posted in this post.

There is none from any school that reached out to flugempire to say x and y school will be expanding with the Big 12. He simply went off of chatter from the media and web forums.

I am sure some people want to believe he has real info, but he doesn't. He is a fraud. A fake. He has no sources. His entire conference realignment stuff is to discredit Dude of WV. He loves to say Dude of WV has mental issues, but flugempire is the one that has more issues since he has devoted the entire conference realignment stuff to try and discredit Dude of WV.

But that's just like your opinion, man.

Plus, he is 100% correct that the Dude is a lunatic fountain of .

I'm free to choose my delusions and I choose Flug.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Like WVU has? They have given up on Texas! Like Kansas State...three 2 star guys out of twenty commits..NO! Like Iowa State?

No.....FSU just signed the #2 class with kids from NY, Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington DC....in addition to Florida. The school is an eastern program...Texas is west.

FSU to the Big 12 is a feverish fantasy, akin to a post about sheep,a blindfold, and handcuffs.

I think you are right. I think FSU and Clemson will stay put. The ACC has a strong presence in some of the fastest growing states in the country. It isn't dead or doomed. It would be stronger without Louisville and Pitt and with UConn and Rutgers, from a market perspective, but these scenarios suggesting it is doomed are overblown.