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[Hoophound]

I think you are right. I think FSU and Clemson will stay put. The ACC has a strong presence in some of the fastest growing states in the country. It isn't dead or doomed. It would be stronger without Louisville and Pitt and with UConn and Rutgers, from a market perspective, but these scenarios suggesting it is doomed are overblown.

The one thing about Flug is that he does have a business connection to powerful people connected to UConn. That's a fact. He may be using some info from that relationship in his reports but covering his tracks as to where he heard it. He may also be much more pro UConn than we realize due to that relationship. His pro-UConn stance may be for helping to publicize UConn to the B12 in order to help us gain momentum in regard public opinion and acceptance among B12 people.

I have no idea what he knows about the B1G and from where he may hear it. However, people that know players in one state usually know players in another.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The one thing about Flug is that he does have a business connection to powerful people connected to UConn. That's a fact. He may be using some info from that relationship in his reports but covering his tracks as to where he heard it. He may also be much more pro UConn than we realize due to that relationship. His pro-UConn stance may be for helping to publicize UConn to the B12 in order to help us gain momentum in regard public opinion and acceptance among B12 people.

I have no idea what he knows about the B1G and from where he may hear it. However, people that know players in one state usually know players in another.

But Flug isn't saying the ACC is done. That MH Ver. Ever since the ACC rejected WVU, those moonshine boys can't resist proclaiming its demise.

 

[Drumguy]

Thanks for that!

 

[UConn Dan]

The one thing about Flug is that he does have a business connection to powerful people connected to UConn. That's a fact. He may be using some info from that relationship in his reports but covering his tracks as to where he heard it. He may also be much more pro UConn than we realize due to that relationship. His pro-UConn stance may be for helping to publicize UConn to the B12 in order to help us gain momentum in regard public opinion and acceptance among B12 people.

I have no idea what he knows about the B1G and from where he may hear it. However, people that know players in one state usually know players in another.

There is zero chance Flug is connected to Burton other than possibly working for his company in a non-executive level position in an entirely different area of the country. Burton has no idea who Flug is and Flug has no insider knowledge to what UConn is doing behind the scenes.

All in good fun and the guy seems reasonable in his thinking but he don't know ish about what's really happening.

 

[Husky25]

Zac Boyer ‏@ZacBoyer 15m15 minutes ago


Commissioner John Swofford shares what it would take for the #ACC to consider expansion once again: http://Post original url/21i1oLb #ACCtourney


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[Husky25]

Pertinent responses:

Q: You’re at 15 teams right now, and everyone is still skittish about expansion. That’s an odd number. Would you like to add a 16th team?

A: No, not really. If Notre Dame — and I’m not suggesting that they will, because they were not brought [to the ACC] with the anticipation that football would join in full between now and through our current television agreements [ending in 2022] … but if Notre Dame joins a league in football, it would be the ACC. But, unless that were to happen, there’s no discussion going on in our league about adding another member right now. In football, it would throw our divisions out of kilter, for one reason

Q: Do you monitor those things, though? The Big 12 gives off the impression it might be interested in adding schools. Does that possibility make you keep an eye on a potential shifting landscape?
A. Well, not really. I mean, we’ve come out as a league very, very well over the last decade. We’re very pleased with where we are and look forward to the future with these 15 schools. It gives us a lot of opportunities that, as a smaller conference, we didn’t have, and I think it’s strengthened us in every respect. But, you know, right now, I think my best guess is, in terms of the five major conferences, you’re not going to see any movement among those five.

I don’t know what the Big 12 will do. [Commissioner] Bob Bowlsby and I are good friends and talk often, and he’s a very thoughtful, bright guy that will bring excellent leadership to that decision with their schools, and of course, the schools will all make that decision, but I don’t think, if they expand, it would be anyone within the other four autonomy conferences. We’ll just have to see with that. But, I think that the landscape is well-settled right now, and that’s a good thing for college athletics.

Swofford was also asked about B.C. and he referred to them as a "University" twice. By definition, BC is not a university. On the other hand his conference realignment comments are interesting to say the very least.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Pertinent responses:

Q: You’re at 15 teams right now, and everyone is still skittish about expansion. That’s an odd number. Would you like to add a 16th team?

A: No, not really. If Notre Dame — and I’m not suggesting that they will, because they were not brought [to the ACC] with the anticipation that football would join in full between now and through our current television agreements [ending in 2022] … but if Notre Dame joins a league in football, it would be the ACC. But, unless that were to happen, there’s no discussion going on in our league about adding another member right now. In football, it would throw our divisions out of kilter, for one reason

Q: Do you monitor those things, though? The Big 12 gives off the impression it might be interested in adding schools. Does that possibility make you keep an eye on a potential shifting landscape?
A. Well, not really. I mean, we’ve come out as a league very, very well over the last decade. We’re very pleased with where we are and look forward to the future with these 15 schools. It gives us a lot of opportunities that, as a smaller conference, we didn’t have, and I think it’s strengthened us in every respect. But, you know, right now, I think my best guess is, in terms of the five major conferences, you’re not going to see any movement among those five.

I don’t know what the Big 12 will do. [Commissioner] Bob Bowlsby and I are good friends and talk often, and he’s a very thoughtful, bright guy that will bring excellent leadership to that decision with their schools, and of course, the schools will all make that decision, but I don’t think, if they expand, it would be anyone within the other four autonomy conferences. We’ll just have to see with that. But, I think that the landscape is well-settled right now, and that’s a good thing for college athletics.

Swofford was also asked about B.C. and he referred to them as a "University" twice. By definition, BC is not a university. On the other hand his conference realignment comments are interesting to say the very least.

BC is a university.

 

[MattMang23]

The Boston College University, New England's College University Team.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Recap:

Crazy person says that a crazy person was friends with another crazy person and then the relationship between the two crazy people went crazy and one crazy person is trying to make everyone think that the other crazy person is crazy.

You forgot to add copious amounts of moonshine to the mix

 

[Husky Pete]

BC is a university.

Right. Any school with more than one college (specialized school) is a university. They probably started as a liberal arts college and then added other concentrations (colleges) like nursing, education, etc. By that point there already was a Boston University, so they just stayed with BC.

Quinnipiac College changed their name to Quinnipiac University once it started expanding into multiple colleges.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Being from Kansas, we always considered it the midwest. But that was eastern KS, near KC. Western KS is really almost "southwest". It's no different than anywhere. Storrs is certainly "New England", while Fairfield is more "NY". These state lines are pretty arbitrary.

Very true, just ask folks what 'Upstate New York' is. Depending who you ask, that border can be anywhere from the northern boundary of the Bronx all the way up to Albany.

 

[jostar1]

There is zero chance Flug is connected to Burton other than possibly working for his company in a non-executive level position in an entirely different area of the country. Burton has no idea who Flug is and Flug has no insider knowledge to what UConn is doing behind the scenes.

All in good fun and the guy seems reasonable in his thinking but he don't know ish about what's really happening.

I believe he is no longer working for that company.

 

[Husky25]

Right. Any school with more than one college (specialized school) is a university. They probably started as a liberal arts college and then added other concentrations (colleges) like nursing, education, etc. By that point there already was a Boston University, so they just stayed with BC.

Quinnipiac College changed their name to Quinnipiac University once it started expanding into multiple colleges.

It's not that cut and dry.

What is a University?
A university is an institution that offers undergraduate and graduate degrees. Universities offer graduate programs leading to a master’s degree or a Ph.D. These institutions also may have a medical or law school for students wishing to pursue professional degrees. Some universities offer special programs where their students can earn both an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree in a reduced amount of time. Generally, universities have a more diverse offering of classes and programs than a college because of the larger number of enrolled students. For assistance in evaluating if a university is a better for for you than a college, check out our ranking of the 25 Best Value Universities.

Can Colleges Offer Graduate Degrees?
Sometimes, the line between college and university can be a little blurry. For example, The College of William & Mary in Virginia is called a college, but they offer graduate degrees in business, law, education and marine science. St. Joseph’s College in New York offers graduate degrees in education, business, creative writing and more. Why are many institutions that offer graduate degrees called colleges? Sometimes, the answer is tradition. Institutions with a long history of being called a college risk upsetting students and alumni by changing their name. When Mt. Union College in Ohio proposed changing their name to University of Mt. Union, angry alumni protested on social media.

BC calls themselves a college. That's what they are. In my narrow world view, they don't get to have their cake and eat it too.

 

[jlarson]

The info I posted about flugempire isn't about stirring the pot or hurting feelings, just letting the truth known. Obviously he will deny having met Dude of WV on the WV website and all the other stuff I posted.

MHver3 and Dude of WV use to have real information a few years ago that would leak out of the athletic department at West Virginia, but those sources are no longer at the university and all real info has dried up. These days they are left to making up every little theory possible so they can say they were right 19 months on a specific day.......

MHver3 has a relative that works at ESPN. So once and a great while he will get real information, but his agenda is clear - destroy the ACC and make the Big 12 the biggest and baddest thing on the planet.

 

[junglehusky]

Swofford doesn't even monitor the landscape.

 

[NYUConn]

The info I posted about flugempire isn't about stirring the pot or hurting feelings, just letting the truth known. Obviously he will deny having met Dude of WV on the WV website and all the other stuff I posted.

and Dude of WV use to have real information a few years ago that would leak out of the athletic department at West Virginia, but those sources are no longer at the university and all real info has dried up. These days they are left to making up every little theory possible so they can say they were right 19 months on a specific day..

has a relative that works at ESPN. So once and a great while he will get real information, but his agenda is clear - destroy the ACC and make the Big 12 the biggest and baddest thing on the planet.

And who are you? Since you seem so committed to transparency, why should we listen to you?

 

[Chuck]

It's not that cut and dry.

What is a University?
A university is an institution that offers undergraduate and graduate degrees. Universities offer graduate programs leading to a master’s degree or a Ph.D. These institutions also may have a medical or law school for students wishing to pursue professional degrees. Some universities offer special programs where their students can earn both an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree in a reduced amount of time. Generally, universities have a more diverse offering of classes and programs than a college because of the larger number of enrolled students. For assistance in evaluating if a university is a better for for you than a college, check out our ranking of the 25 Best Value Universities.

Can Colleges Offer Graduate Degrees?
Sometimes, the line between college and university can be a little blurry. For example, The College of William & Mary in Virginia is called a college, but they offer graduate degrees in business, law, education and marine science. St. Joseph’s College in New York offers graduate degrees in education, business, creative writing and more. Why are many institutions that offer graduate degrees called colleges? Sometimes, the answer is tradition. Institutions with a long history of being called a college risk upsetting students and alumni by changing their name. When Mt. Union College in Ohio proposed changing their name to University of Mt. Union, angry alumni protested on social media.

BC calls themselves a college. That's what they are. In my narrow world view, they don't get to have their cake and eat it too.

Not to beat a dead horse, but they call themselves a University all over their website. They just have College in their name. I think changing their name to Boston University would be a problem.

 

[Hoophound]

There is zero chance Flug is connected to Burton other than possibly working for his company in a non-executive level position in an entirely different area of the country. Burton has no idea who Flug is and Flug has no insider knowledge to what UConn is doing behind the scenes.

All in good fun and the guy seems reasonable in his thinking but he don't know ish about what's really happening.

My understanding is that Flugaur did work out of Stamford for some time then relocated back to Minneapolis. I would also keep in mind that info he gets may be from someone close to Burton rather than Burton himself.

 

[Husky25]

Not to beat a dead horse, but they call themselves a University all over their website. They just have College in their name. I think changing their name to Boston University would be a problem.

BU is a better school.

 

[jostar1]

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 49m49 minutes ago
When the B12 and B10 united prior to the NCAA meetings it was to preserve bother leagues. There was compromise. Pay it forward

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 49m49 minutes ago
It's all about the ACC and ND. ND has a choice to make very soon and they know that. If they want to get into the CFP they must join a conf

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 48m48 minutes ago
Will ND join full member in ACC thus preserving the conf? They've tried. That's why B10 blocked the ACC amendment.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 47m47 minutes ago
They blocked it with B12 help in order to ensure ACC instability for their (B10) future expansion.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 46m46 minutes ago
In order to get B12 support they agreed to not poach any B12 teams as rumored. This would also allow the B12/SEC access to ACC teams

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
The move wasn't anti-ND but more anti ACC and pro B10. ND can join ACC or let it collapse and then join elsewhere. They want to go ACC

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
ESPN is behind the 8ball with ACCnet. The stall tactics are telling as to where their loyalties lie.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
Who will spread their wings first. Will it be the B12 network or the ACC network? The clock is ticking.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 43m43 minutes ago
If the ACC strikes first and ND joins full member (temporarily giving up 1 yearly legacy game) they win. Cinci would be 16.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
The deal between B10/B12 is they they expand and get a network before the ACC gets to 16. They must be 1st.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
To get a B12 network they have to add 2 now and get to 12. No network without 12. They would then get 2 ACC schools after collapse.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
But if the ACC gets to 16 and gets their network rolling first, the deal is off and B10 would have to poach B12.

 

[nd73]

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 49m49 minutes ago
When the B12 and B10 united prior to the NCAA meetings it was to preserve bother leagues. There was compromise. Pay it forward

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 49m49 minutes ago
It's all about the ACC and ND. ND has a choice to make very soon and they know that. If they want to get into the CFP they must join a conf

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 48m48 minutes ago
Will ND join full member in ACC thus preserving the conf? They've tried. That's why B10 blocked the ACC amendment.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 47m47 minutes ago
They blocked it with B12 help in order to ensure ACC instability for their (B10) future expansion.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 46m46 minutes ago
In order to get B12 support they agreed to not poach any B12 teams as rumored. This would also allow the B12/SEC access to ACC teams

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
The move wasn't anti-ND but more anti ACC and pro B10. ND can join ACC or let it collapse and then join elsewhere. They want to go ACC

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
ESPN is behind the 8ball with ACCnet. The stall tactics are telling as to where their loyalties lie.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 45m45 minutes ago
Who will spread their wings first. Will it be the B12 network or the ACC network? The clock is ticking.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 43m43 minutes ago
If the ACC strikes first and ND joins full member (temporarily giving up 1 yearly legacy game) they win. Cinci would be 16.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
The deal between B10/B12 is they they expand and get a network before the ACC gets to 16. They must be 1st.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
To get a B12 network they have to add 2 now and get to 12. No network without 12. They would then get 2 ACC schools after collapse.

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 42m42 minutes ago
But if the ACC gets to 16 and gets their network rolling first, the deal is off and B10 would have to poach B12.

Priceless......

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I think changing their name to Boston University would be a problem.

We beat them to the name by 24 years.

 

[UConn Dan]

My understanding is that Flugaur did work out of Stamford for some time then relocated back to Minneapolis. I would also keep in mind that info he gets may be from someone close to Burton rather than Burton himself.

Maybe but doesn't add up. Minnesota guy relocates to Stamford to work as an account coordinator? He also tweeted that those of you trying to tie him to Burton are barking up the wrong tree and was pissed that his employers name was put out there.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

BU is a better school.

From an academic viewpoint, BC's admissions rate (undergrad) is lower and its incoming freshman scores are higher than BU. BC's law, nursing and education program are better than BU's. BC also gets a bump in the numbers because it becomes 'the' school to go to for many of the old-school catholic families and catholic HS's in the region (BC High, Catholic Memorial, St. John's, Xavier, Madlen Catholic, etc.). BU has a medical, engineering, and bunch of other STEM oriented programs that BC does not have. BU's communications school is also very well respected. BU's business school, which I went to for my MBA part-time, is better than BC. BU also draws kids who want an urban school (like NYC) while BC has more of a campus like setting. They are both as expensive as heck. Thus, from an academic standpoint, its a wash as they are two somewhat different animals. BU is more like Northeastern, another big urban STEM school, while BC is closer to Holy Cross as both lean liberal arts.

 

[CallMeBruce]

It's not that cut and dry.

What is a University?
A university is an institution that offers undergraduate and graduate degrees. Universities offer graduate programs leading to a master’s degree or a Ph.D. These institutions also may have a medical or law school for students wishing to pursue professional degrees. Some universities offer special programs where their students can earn both an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree in a reduced amount of time. Generally, universities have a more diverse offering of classes and programs than a college because of the larger number of enrolled students. For assistance in evaluating if a university is a better for for you than a college, check out our ranking of the 25 Best Value Universities.

Can Colleges Offer Graduate Degrees?
Sometimes, the line between college and university can be a little blurry. For example, The College of William & Mary in Virginia is called a college, but they offer graduate degrees in business, law, education and marine science. St. Joseph’s College in New York offers graduate degrees in education, business, creative writing and more. Why are many institutions that offer graduate degrees called colleges? Sometimes, the answer is tradition. Institutions with a long history of being called a college risk upsetting students and alumni by changing their name. When Mt. Union College in Ohio proposed changing their name to University of Mt. Union, angry alumni protested on social media.

BC calls themselves a college. That's what they are. In my narrow world view, they don't get to have their cake and eat it too.

No, you're wrong. BC is classified as a university. The name hasn't changed from when they weren't because Boston University is already a thing. You want to go out on an island like this, then you do you, but acting like Swofford misspoke when he accurately characterized BC as a university is just plain wrong, and you should probably bow out of this argument.