NBA Draft Lottery Thread

[BUConn10]

This draft may have a lot of guards BUT none are on the level if IT offensively and I don't see them developing into that type of player. To be honest, this draft is really not that strong. Yeah maybe better defensively but how many of you can say you really know Ball or Faultz enough to appreciate the thought they could step in for IT in a year or two. Unless you religiously watched PAC 10 channel (as I have) you really don't have an idea. C's would be crazy to get rid of IT, Avery or Marcus and Rozier has improved. They need a big - a rebounding shot blocking big. Horford Zeller and Kelly are expendable. The strength of the Cs are their back court - don't screw with what is working -

its working I guess, but is it really "working" when the #1 seed in the East is like the 4th or 5th pick to win the title? The current celtics composition is good for regular season wins, but are not designed for post season play. I think that will require some superstar power, and Fultz gives us the best chance at that. IT is putting up superstar numbers but I just dont see him leading a team to the title if he is the #1, he'd be a great complementary player on a title team though.

 

[gtcam]

I watched Fultz more with Team USA (because I wanted to watch Hami...ouch) than with Washington and I am no expert but to me, his floor is very high but I think he is more likely to end up the 20-30th best player in the league, rather than top 10.

I think you may be right and I see him as a better pro than Ball - Ball's shooting style will get eaten up when facing the bigger stronger guys in the NBA - the guy can dish but there are tons who can in the league. His defensive aptitude is also lacking - he could use another year at UCLA - but don't tell his Daddy I said so. He came in with all kinds of hype but his consistency was not there,

 

[BUConn10]

Well, Porter is a good defender and is rapidly improving but he projects to be a role player for his career. He is also a 3 and shouldn't be compared to the Celtics frontcourt players, unless you want to call Jae Crowder a frontcourt player, and then the comparison would be bad in a different way.

Would you trade Crowder for Porter straight up? I would.

 

[BUConn10]

I think you may be right and I see him as a better pro than Ball - Ball's shooting style will get eaten up when facing the bigger stronger guys in the NBA - the guy can dish but there are tons who can in the league. His defensive aptitude is also lacking - he could use another year at UCLA - but don't tell his Daddy I said so. He came in with all kinds of hype but his consistency was not there,

Agree, his shot form is very susceptible to NBA size and speed defensively that he didnt really see in college, his numbers as a freshman were very impressive though nonetheless.

 

[FartMan69]

They of course have a legit shot at the #1 pick next season too. The Nets are the worst franchise in sports, right? The second is across the river.

 

[gtcam]

its working I guess, but is it really "working" when the #1 seed in the East is like the 4th or 5th pick to win the title? The current celtics composition is good for regular season wins, but are not designed for post season play. I think that will require some superstar power, and Fultz gives us the best chance at that. IT is putting up superstar numbers but I just dont see him leading a team to the title if he is the #1, he'd be a great complementary player on a title team though.

They beat a really tough Washington team that played its best ball of the year. There are two teams that are out of this world extraordinary and the likes that haven't been seen in the NBA since the Laker/Celtic 80s. In the "normal" NBA, the Celtics are a top 3-5 team - easy

 

[InKembaITrust]

Couldn't be more pumped about this Celtics situation.

In the conference finals which will attract all available free agents who are currently on subpar teams.

Land the number one pick which clearly will be Markelle who is the perfect compliment to IT's game (who isn't going anywhere).

Unfortunately we might be saying goodbye to Bradley whom I couldn't have more respect for a Celtics player. Wouldn't be surprised if we see Crowder leave as well to make room for Hayward. Probably won't be seeing Amir anymore either as we'll be bringing Ante onto the roster for next year, allowing Al to play PF.

Damn it feels good to be a Celts fan right now. Going to be good for a long time.

Now if Uconn ends up signing some top recruits this week could end up being one of the greatest bball weeks i can remember in a long time

 

[JSM1970]

Who cares honestly, that is tired. Does IT compare himself to Horford?


FULTZ!!!!!!'

I'm so pumped honestly, about time C's caught the big fish

I may be mistaken but is ti true that Fultz will make $700k more than IT next season as a rookie if he goes #1? IT may be on the best contract per dollar in a decade of NBA basketball.

 

[FartMan69]

Couldn't be more pumped about this Celtics situation.

In the conference finals which will attract all available free agents who are currently on subpar teams.

Land the number one pick which clearly will be Markelle who is the perfect compliment to IT's game (who isn't going anywhere).

Unfortunately we might be saying goodbye to Bradley whom I couldn't have more respect for a Celtics player. Wouldn't be surprised if we see Crowder leave as well to make room for Hayward. Probably won't be seeing Amir anymore either as we'll be bringing Ante onto the roster for next year, allowing Al to play PF.

Damn it feels good to be a Celts fan right now. Going to be good for a long time.

Now if UConn ends up signing some top recruits this week could end up being one of the greatest bball weeks i can remember in a long time

Would they be able to Max Hayward, and Thomas along with Al? Legit question becuase that would be an unbelievable squad.

 

[the Q]

This will reignite the IT speculation but I really think he needs to be maxed out. He is the absolute heart of the team, even if his D is terrible and if he will be a bit older towards the end of his contract. What do the C's fans think? No brainer to max him out?

He needs to be sold. Hard. Sell high.

 

[gtcam]

Agree, his shot form is very susceptible to NBA size and speed defensively that he didnt really see in college, his numbers as a freshman were very impressive though nonetheless.

He padded vs the much inferior teams - except for that great game he had early in the season vs Kensucky, he really didn't show in the other big games and was in foul trouble often. As far as IT being a "role" player - at this stage in his career, no way he doesn't get the keys to the car.

 

[Walker11]

Would you trade Crowder for Porter straight up? I would.

No. Porter is better and younger but I would much rather have Crowder at 3 for 21 than Porter at 5 for 125.

 

[JSM1970]

No way, dump IT over Bradley.

Sign Hayward

Couldn't be more pumped about this Celtics situation.

In the conference finals which will attract all available free agents who are currently on subpar teams.

Land the number one pick which clearly will be Markelle who is the perfect compliment to IT's game (who isn't going anywhere).

Unfortunately we might be saying goodbye to Bradley whom I couldn't have more respect for a Celtics player. Wouldn't be surprised if we see Crowder leave as well to make room for Hayward. Probably won't be seeing Amir anymore either as we'll be bringing Ante onto the roster for next year, allowing Al to play PF.

Damn it feels good to be a Celts fan right now. Going to be good for a long time.

Now if UConn ends up signing some top recruits this week could end up being one of the greatest bball weeks i can remember in a long time

 

[NielsisGood]

Random Suns fan here...was hoping for top 2 or top 3 with the Lakers being in the top 2 as I really want Jackson from Kansas. I guess worst case scenario they take a dookie if it goes Fultz, Ball, Jackson in whatever order.

Getting Tatum 4th doesn't sound bad at all.

I think many teams are over-estimating the raining cap bubble, and will regret paying some of these up and comers big bucks with the expectation that the cap will keep skyrocketing at this rate to make the deal look great in a few years down the line.

NBA contracts aren't long term enough to really hurt a team for more than 1, maybe 2 years. It's not like in baseball where they'll sign a guy for 8-10 years.

its working I guess, but is it really "working" when the #1 seed in the East is like the 4th or 5th pick to win the title? The current celtics composition is good for regular season wins, but are not designed for post season play. I think that will require some superstar power, and Fultz gives us the best chance at that. IT is putting up superstar numbers but I just dont see him leading a team to the title if he is the #1, he'd be a great complementary player on a title team though.

You have to max IT if you think he can be a top 3 player on a legitimate title contending team.

 

[Walker11]

Who cares honestly, that is tired. Does IT compare himself to Horford?


FULTZ!!!!!!'

I'm so pumped honestly, about time C's caught the big fish

A part of me really wanted to see you try to handle having Lavar in your life but I am happy for all the people who deal with you day to day.

 

[BUConn10]

They beat a really tough Washington team that played its best ball of the year. There are two teams that are out of this world extraordinary and the likes that haven't been seen in the NBA since the Laker/Celtic 80s. In the "normal" NBA, the Celtics are a top 3-5 team - easy

That's the thing though, what's "normal" for the NBA elite has changed. The title winners are composed of multiple two way superstars, C's are playing scrappy underdog ball but will be exposed against the "new" NBA in Cleveland.

 

[the Q]

They of course have a legit shot at the #1 pick next season too. The Nets are the worst franchise in sports, right? The second is across the river.

What river connects Brooklyn to Nashville?

 

[BUConn10]

Would they be able to Max Hayward, and Thomas along with Al? Legit question becuase that would be an unbelievable squad.

I really wouldn't call it an "unbelievable" squad. In the NBA everything is relative to the competition, and look at GSW, CLE or SA? Adding Hayward to this current team would add maybe 6 wins in the regular season and the same result in the ECF.

 

[gtcam]

That's the thing though, what's "normal" for the NBA elite has changed. The title winners are composed of multiple two way superstars, C's are playing scrappy underdog ball but will be exposed against the "new" NBA in Cleveland.

They aren't beating Cleveland but there aren't enough superstars to make a league of teams like Cleveland and GS. IMHO, those two are the exception. The C's are scrappy but are not underdogs except vs Cavs and GS

 

[FartMan69]

I really wouldn't call it an "unbelievable" squad. In the NBA everything is relative to the competition, and look at GSW, CLE or SA? Adding Hayward to this current team would add maybe 6 wins in the regular season and the same result in the ECF.

I'm just assuming if Fultz can become a superstar talent and Lebron falls off at some point. That team's window is wider than Cleveland's. I've always held the stance the C's need to build with the Nets picks strictly because Lebron at his current level isn't not getting to the finals.

 

[BUConn10]

I'm just assuming if Fultz can become a superstar talent and Lebron falls off at some point. That team's window is wider than Cleveland's. I've always held the stance the C's need to build with the Nets picks strictly because Lebron at his current level isn't not getting to the finals.

I agree with that, the Celtics simply need to wait Lebron's prime out, there's really no way around that currently.

 

[InKembaITrust]

No way, dump IT over Bradley.

Sign Hayward

IT is far too important of a facilitator. I can't see a situation where they get rid of him. The guy is an All-Star averaging 30 ppg.

Bradley is expendable in that Hayward is an upgrade on offense, and you can supplant Avery's defense with the combo of Smart/Rozier. Jalen is a very underrated defender as well.

 

[InKembaITrust]

Would they be able to Max Hayward, and Thomas along with Al? Legit question becuase that would be an unbelievable squad.

Not entirely sure they could do all 3. Judging by Isaiah's character/humbleness it wouldn't shock me if he took a pay cut for the team.

 

[Walker11]

So the Celtics could renounce Olynyk, reunite Hayward with Stevens, and still have the assets to flip the Nets pick for a guy like Butler or PG (don't know if they would want to with him on a contract year). Now that could be something special, even when measuring up to the teams that matter. Should be an exciting summer.

 

[FartMan69]

I agree with that, the Celtics simply need to wait Lebron's prime out, there's really no way around that currently.

I'm a Knicks fan actually but am beyond intrigued with the Celts current situation. They have robbed and swindled inferior GM's and hit an absolute home run with Stevens. Wide open window and can be competitive until they have the team to overtake the east. Meanwhile Phil is driving the clown mobile into a mulberry bush.

 

[NielsisGood]

So the Celtics could renounce Olynyk, reunite Hayward with Stevens, and still have the assets to flip the Nets pick for a guy like Butler or PG (don't know if they would want to with him on a contract year). Now that could be something special, even when measuring up to the teams that matter. Should be an exciting summer.

If the Celts didn't trade the pick for Butler when it was just a % to be #1 I can't imagine they'd deal now when it is the #1 pick.

 

[Walker11]

If the Celts didn't trade the pick for Butler when it was just a % to be #1 I can't imagine they'd deal now when it is the #1 pick.

Oh I know. I meant next year. But then again, they could be in line to land either Ayton or Bamba to eventually replace Al. So many options.

 

[Dove]

I'd go with Purv as #1 pick if I was Ainge. Lakers will take Brimah

Are the sidelines farther out in the League?

 

[the Q]

I'm just assuming if Fultz can become a superstar talent and Lebron falls off at some point. That team's window is wider than Cleveland's. I've always held the stance the C's need to build with the Nets picks strictly because Lebron at his current level isn't not getting to the finals.

This is why you sell high on IT. You elongate the window to wait out Lebron.

 

[HooperScooper]

I may be mistaken but is ti true that Fultz will make $700k more than IT next season as a rookie if he goes #1? IT may be on the best contract per dollar in a decade of NBA basketball.

Not true. The number one pick from last year's draft made $4.9 million this past season (NBA Rookie Scale - RealGM). That will go up some. IT's current contract will pay him $6,261,395 next season (Isaiah Thomas).