Mathis to Rutgers

[Guapo]

Wrong. No one is leaving that $$$ on the table to be a middle-of-the-pack team in a punchline conference.

I was really talking about "state of the program" more than switching conferences.

If you want to be Washington State or LSU or BC or Rutgers, then I don't know what to tell you.

What is your excuse going to be when Cinnci and WSU spend the entire season in the top 15 and WSU makes the elite 8 and Gonzaga makes another championship game?

Your excuse would be Ollie, right? And that's fine, all I've been arguing is that he shouldn't be fired in August after losing a 90th ranked recruit to Rutgers.

He gets one more year.

 

[pj]

Was anyone here recruited to play college sports? The kid is going to Rutgers because he's gonna be a starter and have the ball in his hands from day 1. 99 said Rutgers offered the world. The flip flop and indecision was the fact that it's 4 time National Champion UConn with its history of great guards. He was not starting at UConn as a freshman and maybe not as a sophomore.

Come on, we have only 2 guards and 1 small forward on the roster for 2018-19. He would have played major minutes, whether or not he started.

 

[pj]

Mau -Quite frankly, my comment was not related to the other post you quoted. It was in reply to a Stairmaster rant about Calhoun.

Chief, Stairmaster was right on that one. Opposing coaches were negative recruiting about Calhoun's age and health the last few years of his tenure. Boeheim is another HOF coach subject to the same critique. If JC were to come back, the negative recruiting ("he won't be there you whole four years, maybe not even your first") would be even more intense.

 

[mauconnfan]

Mau -Quite frankly, my comment was not related to the other post you quoted. It was in reply to a Stairmaster rant about Calhoun.

My reply was to UConnfan8 so I have no idea how it ended with you thinking I directed this at you?

 

[mauconnfan]

The fact is we are losing recruits to schools with ZERO posters. At least our fan base gives a damn about their team. This one hurts.

This is a fair statement no doubt.

 

[MSGSeven]

Come on, we have only 2 guards and 1 small forward on the roster for 2018-19. He would have played major minutes, whether or not he started.

3 guards and 2 small forwards there's no guarantee Adams and Larrier are gone after 17-18. Right now neither one are projected to be drafted on nbadraft.net.

 

[Chief00]

Chief, Stairmaster was right on that one. Opposing coaches were negative recruiting about Calhoun's age and health the last few years of his tenure. Boeheim is another HOF coach subject to the same critique. If JC were to come back, the negative recruiting ("he won't be there you whole four years, maybe not even your first") would be even more intense.

JC's last recruiting year - he got arguably the number one recruit in the country - AD

 

[pj]

JC's last recruiting year - he got arguably the number one recruit in the country - AD

Yes, not saying he couldn't overcome the negative recruiting, especially local kids - being a Hall of Famer helps - but the negative recruiting was out there.

 

[HooperScooper]

He was not starting at UConn as a freshman and maybe not as a sophomore.

Oh really? As it sits right now tell me who he's competing against for playing time as a sophomore. And even as a freshman he might not have much competition if some people leave early.

 

[MSGSeven]

Oh really? As it sits right now tell me who he's competing against for playing time as a sophomore. And even as a freshman he might not have much competition if some people leave early.

As a freshman, he doesn't start over a senior Adams nor a junior Vital. As a sophomore, he doesn't start over a senior Vital.

 

[Huskybass]

As if any of our prospective recruits are fixated on those two games like some posters here are.

Think about the reality of the situation though. Compared to those two teams, UConn's roster was absolutely loaded and if I remember correctly, UConn was a pre season Top 20 team. To go out and lose 2 straight home games to teams with vastly inferior rosters is problematic. It made the remainder of the season an uphill battle, even before all the injuries took place.

Ranked teams get so much more exposure on sportscenter, etc. than unranked teams. When you go unranked all season long, you are certainly at a disadvantage from a recruiting standpoint. So while your post may have some merit, those 2 losses did result in some negative consequences for the program.

 

[Fishy]

Was anyone here recruited to play college sports? The kid is going to Rutgers because he's gonna be a starter and have the ball in his hands from day 1. 99 said Rutgers offered the world. The flip flop and indecision was the fact that it's 4 time National Champion UConn with its history of great guards. He was not starting at UConn as a freshman and maybe not as a sophomore.

Wake up, you're dreaming.

Remarkable how we're so freaking loaded that we can't land a single player while everyone we consider a peer has no such issue. With our roster from next season on, there's every chance this kid would get all the playing time he'd want.

 

[Chief00]

My reply was to UConnfan8 so I have no idea how it ended with you thinking I directed this at you?

Because you quoted my post

 

[Chief00]

Yes, not saying he couldn't overcome the negative recruiting, especially local kids - being a Hall of Famer helps - but the negative recruiting was out there.

Yes, HOF helps.

 

[HooperScooper]

As a freshman, he doesn't start over a senior Adams nor a junior Vital. As a sophomore, he doesn't start over a senior Vital.

If Adams is still here by then he's definitely one of our guards. No question there. But if he's scared of competing against Vital for one of the guard spots then he should just go to a low major. I highly doubt he didn't choose UConn because he's scared of competing with what is on the roster. But think whatever you want that makes you feel better about this.

 

[mauconnfan]

Because you quoted my post

My bad please accept my apology it was directed at a UConnfan8 post right near yours. Check the time half asleep.

 

[Waquoit]

As if any of our prospective recruits are fixated on those two games like some posters here are.

No fixation, those two games were the canary in the coal mine.

 

[8893]

No fixation, those two games were the canary in the coal mine.

Now if I tell you that you suffer from delusions
You pay your analyst to reach the same conclusions

 

[BUConn10]

Ironically the buzz from the tos gurus support the flip flopping that i posted. Think what you want and just do me a favor and block me please. No need for you negative vibe. I post what i hear from a few places. Ironically i was ahead of the crystal ballz swing.

Don't stop forwarding what you hear. Ignore the morons who can't control their emotions.

 

[MSGSeven]

Wake up, you're dreaming.

Remarkable how we're so freaking loaded that we can't land a single player while everyone we consider a peer has no such issue. With our roster from next season on, there's every chance this kid would get all the playing time he'd want.

This kid wants to go to the NBA. The school name, history, success, etc. don't really factor into that but his opportunity to showcase his abilities is the major factor. At Rutgers he will have much more of an opportunity from day 1.

 

[David 76]

I think the idea that Ollie doesn't know how to recruit is about the funniest theme on this thread. He knew how to recruit last year (top 10) and this year he forgot?
Also, Coach Chill has a national reputation for recruiting, brought us to the precipice with a couple recruits, the he forgot how to recruit?
I think we need to address the amnesia outbreak.

Or, look at the fact that negative recruiting is killing us.
Whether that means we find a way to counter it, allow time and KO s revitalized behavior to run its course, or fire our Coach because the stink won't go away
Not knowing how to recruit, Wagner, even the AAC (at this juncture) have little to do with it

 

[Stainmaster]

No fixation, those two games were the canary in the coal mine.

If they really mattered, how did St. John's who lost to Delaware State and LIU end up with an advantage over us for Sid Wilson?

You won't answer this because you can't.

 

[MSGSeven]

If Adams is still here by then he's definitely one of our guards. No question there. But if he's scared of competing against Vital for one of the guard spots then he should just go to a low major. I highly doubt he didn't choose UConn because he's scared of competing with what is on the roster. But think whatever you want that makes you feel better about this.

So we've established he'd be behind Adams. But you're saying a freshman Mathis will be better or at least comparable to a junior Vital? Based on the highlights I've seen, I disagree with that but we're both entitled to our opinions.

 

[Waquoit]

If they really mattered, how did St. John's who lost to Delaware State and LIU end up with an advantage over us for Sid Wilson?
You won't answer this because you can't.

Do you even know what "canary in a coal mine means"?

 

[Fishy]

This kid wants to go to the NBA. The school name, history, success, etc. don't really factor into that but his opportunity to showcase his abilities is the major factor. At Rutgers he will have much more of an opportunity from day 1.

They all want to go to the NBA.

And he wanted to commit to UConn - he had an edit made for a Twitter announcement.

So your theory is basically crap.

 

[MSGSeven]

They all want to go to the NBA.

And he wanted to commit to UConn - he had an edit made for a Twitter announcement.

So your theory is basically crap.

A theory of a kid wanting to go to a college that gives the most opportunity for playing time is crap? You obviously weren't a college athlete. And if the kid wanted to go to UConn why did he choose Rutgers? I guess it just plays to the insanity of the Boneyard.

 

[temery]

he had an edit made for a Twitter announcement.

What does that mean?

 

[MadDogRevival]

I think the idea that Ollie doesn't know how to recruit is about the funniest theme on this thread. He knew how to recruit last year (top 10) and this year he forgot?

That's not their point.
Their point is that he "knows" how to do it, but he's lost his sales touch, either because recruits view him differently, he's selling a worse product, or whatever.

In other words, it's not that he doesn't know "how" to recruit, it's that he's "unable" to recruit, which can both be adequately described by the phrase, "he can't recruit."

 

[Fishy]

A theory of a kid wanting to go to a college that gives the most opportunity for playing time is crap? You obviously weren't a college athlete. And if the kid wanted to go to UConn why did he choose Rutgers? I guess it just plays to the insanity of the Boneyard.

Actually, sport, I was. And just stop - neither of us were anything special as a college athlete.

Kid committed to Rutgers because Pikiell did a hell of a job recruiting the family, not because our roster was so loaded that he was scared off. Only on this board is Christian Vital considered such a monumental talent that players go elsewhere in droves to avoid competing with him.

Our coaching staff stinks at recruiting which is why our roster in 2018/2019 looks like scrapple and not the imposing wall of talent your theory relies on.

 

[Huskyforlife]

They all want to go to the NBA.

And he wanted to commit to UConn - he had an edit made for a Twitter announcement.

So your theory is basically crap.

You know this for sure?