Mathis to Rutgers
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News flash: if we turn into UMass, whether or not you accept it has no bearing on the reality of it.
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Then you don't understand recruiting.
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I hesitate to even bring this up, and I really hope KO turns it around. But it seems very unlikely KO is in a position to succeed this year and we may need to move on from him. I understand giving him this season, but I feel like that sets us back even further. That's another lost recruiting year for 2018 and then the new coach is already way behind and playing catch up for 2019. I'll be hoping for the best but these next few years are looking very very rough
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RIP UConn men's basketball. Thank you for an amazing 25+ year run. I will never forget the joy it was being a fan. Mic drop.
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So UConn is only worth rooting for when it's a Calhoun-level juggernaut?
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Because the negative recruiting VERY VERY PERSONAL (emphasis added).
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fair enough, go ahead and be self-righteous. It's very becoming.
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It's more becoming than referring to yourself as a fan in the past tense.
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I am referring to the program as a national brand in the past tense.
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Why do we live and die with every recruiting hit or miss? Its insanity. He chose Rutgers, move on! We all are well aware of the issues surrounding the program. We're well aware of what needs to be done this season to avoid catastrophe. Landing or not landing mathis changes none of that. The same two groups argue about the same thing in every recruiting thread(I've been guilty). At what point do we stop torturing each other with these insane dooms day back and forths. Nothing has changed because we missed out on mathis. We are in the same position today we were in yesterday. We simply need to WIN. Can we agree on that????
Agree. His parents made his decision for him. How is that being outworked. Sounds like we did everything right because he wanted us. I mentioned in the other thread that this can blow up in his parents faces. He may be thinking in two years wtf were my parents thinking and harbor some kind of resentment towards them. Dangerous game being overly controlling.
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Because we once lost kids to puke unc and zona. Now we lose to ru and st. Johns
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Somehow, someway, I will carry on.
Perhaps the recognition that I never even knew he existed a week ago will mitigate things in time.
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So going full blown nuclear every single time is logical?
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Get over yourself. Anyone still hung up over those games after 9 months needs help.
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Haven't we had a few of these lately? And we haven't exactly lost them to great programs either. This is getting a little discouraging. Let's see what the 2018 class looks like by next spring. But this is a very important class for the program. If there isn't very good talent coming in we are in a heap of trouble for the next few years.
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Isn't that how most recruiting battles go? You have choices and you make a decision that is best for you. Do you think every Duke or Kentucky recruit doesn't consider other schools?
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I'll give you that. Came at you a little aggressive there sorry man. Just pissed off about how sad things have become.
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People keep saying this after every miss though. At some point it's not a singular event. People are freaking out over the very real trend.
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Being in the running for quality recruits is still encouraging
Not closing targeted recruits is disappointing.
Having several recent recruits choose these particular schools over us is literally hurtful.
Our coaches failing to accurately read the situations is really concerning.
From my experience in sales, my gut says we have likely have been talking more than listening at the critical point.
That can often happen when you fall into a trap of harping on the features you like, rather than addressing what the prospect values.
(ie our winning pedigree vs Rutgers empty slate, may be of no consequence to the recruit even though we think it is a hands down winner)
Coaches grow up playing the game and learning the skills and strategies, etc etc. It has often crossed my mind that they likely have no actual skill training in personal sales. In these situations, a classic 'tell' that there is a lack of sales skills would be when a person might say that they treat 'parents' like they would want to be treated themselves if they were the parents. Wrong answer. You treat people like they want to be treated, not how you would want to be treated if you were them. You have to listen enough to know how that is. Obviously, I'm just speculating, but if it is getting down to us and another school, we are doing a lot of things right until the close.
Just venting. Nevermind.
Not closing targeted recruits is disappointing.
Having several recent recruits choose these particular schools over us is literally hurtful.
Our coaches failing to accurately read the situations is really concerning.
From my experience in sales, my gut says we have likely have been talking more than listening at the critical point.
That can often happen when you fall into a trap of harping on the features you like, rather than addressing what the prospect values.
(ie our winning pedigree vs Rutgers empty slate, may be of no consequence to the recruit even though we think it is a hands down winner)
Coaches grow up playing the game and learning the skills and strategies, etc etc. It has often crossed my mind that they likely have no actual skill training in personal sales. In these situations, a classic 'tell' that there is a lack of sales skills would be when a person might say that they treat 'parents' like they would want to be treated themselves if they were the parents. Wrong answer. You treat people like they want to be treated, not how you would want to be treated if you were them. You have to listen enough to know how that is. Obviously, I'm just speculating, but if it is getting down to us and another school, we are doing a lot of things right until the close.
Just venting. Nevermind.
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or that we are in really times right now
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