Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[JVN]

Toledo getting poached again?

 

[uconnfan68]

Feel free. I'm more comfortable with the statements of people who were actually material participants and went on the record contemporaneous to the events.

PM me if you want to discuss in more detail.

No thanks. I'm just glad I was around to see a lot of great things at UConn.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You’re allowed to be wrong.

But you’re not allowed to change the facts as they were in order to pretend you’re not.

A decade-plus later, Stanford, California and SMU are in the ACC and despite being considered three times by the Big 12 and winning however many championships, the ACC is not one percent closer to considering us for membership. Kinda feels like a blacklist, don’t it?

You are wrong about 2012 and absolutely dead wrong about 2003.

2003 was a coordinated strike by BCU, Miami, the ACC and ESPN on the Big East as the league was beginning negotiations for a new contract. My source on this is from one of the athletic departments that was part of the attack. I was told about it months before Tranghese went public, but I didn’t believe the story.

BC was concerned about being left behind because it saw the escalating costs of running an athletic program and knew UConn presented an existential threat if there was conference consolidation. Donna Shalala was embarrassed by the Miami football program and wanted to de-emphasize it, which would be hard to do in the Big East’s merit based revenue share. And when I saw “embarrassed”, she fudging hated the football program. The ACC thought they could knock the Big East out with one shot, and they would have if not for the lawsuit.

My source on 2012 is not as solid, but given the public swings of that realignment, including a potential Big 12/Big East merger, I doubt Fishy’s “it was all part of a master plan” theory. BC’s position was simply to keep UConn out of a major conference at all costs, because then BC would be the only available New England program. If that is what Fishy means by blacklisting, then sure. I will point out that UConn fundraisers were telling major boosters the ACC was all but a done deal in 2012.

Finally, I do have a good source that UConn was planning to rejoin the Big East over a year before they actually announced, which means Hurley knew UConn would be in the Big East when he took the job. I bring this up because there continues to be a vein of idiocy among our fan base that the AAC is equivalent to the Big East. Hurley would NEVER have come here if he thought we were staying in the AAC.

 

[UConnJim]

You are wrong about 2012 and absolutely dead wrong about 2003.

2003 was a coordinated strike by BCU, Miami, the ACC and ESPN on the Big East as the league was beginning negotiations for a new contract. My source on this is from one of the athletic departments that was part of the attack. I was told about it months before Tranghese went public, but I didn’t believe the story.

BC was concerned about being left behind because it saw the escalating costs of running an athletic program and knew UConn presented an existential threat if there was conference consolidation. Donna Shalala was embarrassed by the Miami football program and wanted to de-emphasize it, which would be hard to do in the Big East’s merit based revenue share. And when I saw “embarrassed”, she fudging hated the football program. The ACC thought they could knock the Big East out with one shot, and they would have if not for the lawsuit.

My source on 2012 is not as solid, but given the public swings of that realignment, including a potential Big 12/Big East merger, I doubt Fishy’s “it was all part of a master plan” theory. BC’s position was simply to keep UConn out of a major conference at all costs, because then BC would be the only available New England program. If that is what Fishy means by blacklisting, then sure. I will point out that UConn fundraisers were telling major boosters the ACC was all but a done deal in 2012.

Finally, I do have a good source that UConn was planning to rejoin the Big East over a year before they actually announced, which means Hurley knew UConn would be in the Big East when he took the job. I bring this up because there continues to be a vein of idiocy among our fan base that the AAC is equivalent to the Big East. Hurley would NEVER have come here if he thought we were staying in the AAC.

Here's a timeline of events related to 2012.

September 30, 2012: Gene DeFilippo retires from BC as AD
October 9, 2012: Brad Bates hired as BC AD from Miami (Ohio)
November 2012: Maryland announces they will leave the ACC for the Big 10.
November 2012: Louisville announces they will leave the Big East for the ACC.

Based on my understanding from my BC friends is that BC was OK with UConn joining the ACC in 2012 when Maryland left (DeFilippo was gone), but the ACC wanted to improve their football image and Louisville touted their football program and UConn never presented a plan to show how UConn was going to continue to improve their football program which was still a young FBS program. Thus, the football schools won the day and Louisville was added. End of the day, I think Manuel and Herbst thought UConn was in and didn't sell a plan of what the football program could become and Louisville seized the opportunity.

 

[Fishy]

You are wrong about 2012 and absolutely dead wrong about 2003.

2003 was a coordinated strike by BCU, Miami, the ACC and ESPN on the Big East as the league was beginning negotiations for a new contract. My source on this is from one of the athletic departments that was part of the attack. I was told about it months before Tranghese went public, but I didn’t believe the story.

BC was concerned about being left behind because it saw the escalating costs of running an athletic program and knew UConn presented an existential threat if there was conference consolidation. Donna Shalala was embarrassed by the Miami football program and wanted to de-emphasize it, which would be hard to do in the Big East’s merit based revenue share. And when I saw “embarrassed”, she fudging hated the football program. The ACC thought they could knock the Big East out with one shot, and they would have if not for the lawsuit.

My source on 2012 is not as solid, but given the public swings of that realignment, including a potential Big 12/Big East merger, I doubt Fishy’s “it was all part of a master plan” theory. BC’s position was simply to keep UConn out of a major conference at all costs, because then BC would be the only available New England program. If that is what Fishy means by blacklisting, then sure. I will point out that UConn fundraisers were telling major boosters the ACC was all but a done deal in 2012.

Finally, I do have a good source that UConn was planning to rejoin the Big East over a year before they actually announced, which means Hurley knew UConn would be in the Big East when he took the job. I bring this up because there continues to be a vein of idiocy among our fan base that the AAC is equivalent to the Big East. Hurley would NEVER have come here if he thought we were staying in the AAC.

Nope.

I’m right.

Rest of what you wrote was nonsense.

 

[buddy]

Here's a timeline of events related to 2012.

September 30, 2012: Gene DeFilippo retires from BC as AD
October 9, 2012: Brad Bates hired as BC AD from Miami (Ohio)
November 2012: Maryland announces they will leave the ACC for the Big 10.
November 2012: Louisville announces they will leave the Big East for the ACC.

Based on my understanding from my BC friends is that BC was OK with UConn joining the ACC in 2012 when Maryland left (DeFilippo was gone), but the ACC wanted to improve their football image and Louisville touted their football program and UConn never presented a plan to show how UConn was going to continue to improve their football program which was still a young FBS program. Thus, the football schools won the day and Louisville was added. End of the day, I think Manuel and Herbst thought UConn was in and didn't sell a plan of what the football program could become and Louisville seized the opportunity.

No such thing as BC friends.

 

[CL82]

No such thing as BC friends.

Just enemies you haven't met yet.