FSU using the Big 12 for leverage and/or the B1G and SEC saying they are not interested is either a ploy for posturing or the end game for the B1G is Notre Dame plus whoever ND wants to bring with them and the end game for the SEC is UNC plus whoever UNC wants to bring with them.
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Paul Finebaum: North Carolina is at the top of SEC's priority list if it further expands
The SEC doesn’t seem at all interested in any further expansion with the league now at 16 teams. Even so, if they were, Paul Finebaum knows the school that would be their next prime candidate in realignment.
Still, if the SEC were to add a new member, Finebaum says what he has heard is that the obvious pick would be North Carolina. The only question would be if the Tar Heels would join on their own or if at least one more team came along with them to make it an even number at 18.
“It’s North Carolina at the top,” Finebaum stated. “I think, after that, it’s a little bit unknown. There’s a million different theories. Would North Carolina take someone with them? Or would they just sit around?”
“The one thing I feel pretty confident of, though, is that, if something happens in the next couple weeks, it won’t be Florida State going to the SEC. I mean it just seems like they have shot themselves in the foot on that,” explained Finebaum. “I don’t think Clemson is in as bad of shape but they are now lumped with Florida State.”
The SEC doesn’t seem at all interested in any further expansion with the league now at 16 teams. Even so, if they were, Paul Finebaum knows the school that would be their next prime candidate in realignment.
Still, if the SEC were to add a new member, Finebaum says what he has heard is that the obvious pick would be North Carolina. The only question would be if the Tar Heels would join on their own or if at least one more team came along with them to make it an even number at 18.
“It’s North Carolina at the top,” Finebaum stated. “I think, after that, it’s a little bit unknown. There’s a million different theories. Would North Carolina take someone with them? Or would they just sit around?”
“The one thing I feel pretty confident of, though, is that, if something happens in the next couple weeks, it won’t be Florida State going to the SEC. I mean it just seems like they have shot themselves in the foot on that,” explained Finebaum. “I don’t think Clemson is in as bad of shape but they are now lumped with Florida State.”
UConn should lobby SEC to be added to bring the Northeast. Great basketball add, good baseball, and football won't hurt them. Ideal partner with UNC.Paul Finebaum: North Carolina is at the top of SEC's priority list if it further expands
The SEC doesn’t seem at all interested in any further expansion with the league now at 16 teams. Even so, if they were, Paul Finebaum knows the school that would be their next prime candidate in realignment.
Still, if the SEC were to add a new member, Finebaum says what he has heard is that the obvious pick would be North Carolina. The only question would be if the Tar Heels would join on their own or if at least one more team came along with them to make it an even number at 18.
“It’s North Carolina at the top,” Finebaum stated. “I think, after that, it’s a little bit unknown. There’s a million different theories. Would North Carolina take someone with them? Or would they just sit around?”
“The one thing I feel pretty confident of, though, is that, if something happens in the next couple weeks, it won’t be Florida State going to the SEC. I mean it just seems like they have shot themselves in the foot on that,” explained Finebaum. “I don’t think Clemson is in as bad of shape but they are now lumped with Florida State.”
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A reporter from the New York times had this idea a few years ago. Not sure it makes sense.
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Offer all sports sans football. 20% of a full share. Mandate 2 football games per year non-conference. What’s the worst that happens, a no?
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I believe you are describing the mindset of 90% of us BYers.
With the remaining 10% still trying to understand how to invite a hooker to the prom.
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Oh hog wash. They are not worth $67 million to the Big. And the Big doesn’t need 2 more mid-level football teams. And the days of the cable bundles are fast dwindling. And both share the markets with others. UNC with Duke, NC State, UVA with VATECH. And is in a pro market anyway. If the big money was cable fees, the ACC would be wealthy.
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UNC is at that top of their list if they expand which they don’t plan to do and if the prioritize basketball which they won’t and if every team is willing to take a pay cut to add them which they won’t. Sort of like being 12th in line for the British throne I guess. Better than being 13th.Paul Finebaum: North Carolina is at the top of SEC's priority list if it further expands
The SEC doesn’t seem at all interested in any further expansion with the league now at 16 teams. Even so, if they were, Paul Finebaum knows the school that would be their next prime candidate in realignment.
Still, if the SEC were to add a new member, Finebaum says what he has heard is that the obvious pick would be North Carolina. The only question would be if the Tar Heels would join on their own or if at least one more team came along with them to make it an even number at 18.
“It’s North Carolina at the top,” Finebaum stated. “I think, after that, it’s a little bit unknown. There’s a million different theories. Would North Carolina take someone with them? Or would they just sit around?”
“The one thing I feel pretty confident of, though, is that, if something happens in the next couple weeks, it won’t be Florida State going to the SEC. I mean it just seems like they have shot themselves in the foot on that,” explained Finebaum. “I don’t think Clemson is in as bad of shape but they are now lumped with Florida State.”
Never hurts to ask. Football should be included. Great rilvalry with Vandy in football. Kentucky Alabama Arkansas Florida and Texas in basketball. Lots of eyes in the northeast would watch with great marketing.
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It would make more sense if the SEC also took UVA and UNC as well as maybe Duke.
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Don't believe anything the conferences say at this point.
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This is a must listen.
Two biggest talking points: i) FSU/Clemson only end up in the SEC/B1G if the ACC is fully ripped apart and in that scenario the SEC/B1G would probably pick different schools and ii) FSU/Clemson have damaged their brand with their legal tactics. SEC/B1G Presidents have serious reservations about working with schools who are this disruptive.
Furthermore, it seems the B1G/SEC want to digest their current expansion and it seems they have been advised that there is no $ from ESPN or Fox for such an expansion (at a $ level that is additive).
FSU/Clemson will talk to the B12, but McMurphy says the two really don't want to go there. And the B12 scenario would be challenging to make financial sense given the exit fees.
McMurphy says the SEC wants UNC and UVA or VA Tech as they want new states (duh!). He doesn't offer a opinion as to who the B1G wants.
Conclusion; FSU/Clemson are stuck and now they are politically damaged goods as well (which might have repercussions at the end of the ACC GOR).
FSU has clearly failed to read the room on CRA tactics.
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FSU and Clemson overplayed their hand. No idea what they were thinking. Maybe they thought they'd get out of this cleanly and there would be an $EC or B1G invite waiting in the wings. Like someone else said you don't quit your job until you've got another one lined up.
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Oh god I hope this is accurate. The level of arrogance and incompetence at FSU and Clemson would be historic.....
We can only hope.....
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You can’t Force people to stay. It’s money.
Could be a SNL skit to rival Zillowporn
Other than the lawsuits involved, this kind of reminds me of both Missouri and San Diego State............
When the B1G announced they were going to add a 12th team back in 2009, Missouri assumed it was them. Everyone at Missouri talked about how they were leaving the Big 12 and the new Longhorn Network and going to the B1G! Then, the B1G invited Nebraska and Mizzou had egg on their face. At least the SEC came calling a year later.
And then last year, San Diego State announced they were leaving the Mountain West only to come crawling back because the PAC-12 blew up.
When the B1G announced they were going to add a 12th team back in 2009, Missouri assumed it was them. Everyone at Missouri talked about how they were leaving the Big 12 and the new Longhorn Network and going to the B1G! Then, the B1G invited Nebraska and Mizzou had egg on their face. At least the SEC came calling a year later.
And then last year, San Diego State announced they were leaving the Mountain West only to come crawling back because the PAC-12 blew up.
Not a tweet, but on topic....
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Ex-Tallahassee Democrat reporter implies FSU joining Big Ten could still be in play
Former Tallahassee Democrat reporter Skip Foster implied that FSU leaving the ACC to join the Big Ten is still on the table despite rumors that the Big 12 would
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In North Carolina, you have 4 ACC schools so the ACCN fees are from 4 schools. Imagine if the ACCN fees were from one school?
And, why do you think SMU and Cal/Stanford were grabbed by the ACC? They took a reduced rate but they opened up Texas and California to in-market fees for the ACCN. Thus, they were accretive adds.
The BIG12 sounds like a strong brand, and with all the new additions being brought over kicking and screaming, they don't want to go. They have a bright future ahead of them.