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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

UConnDan97 said:
Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...
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Seriously? They are regulars in the Top 25 and better than most of the ACC.

Georgetown may never be good or great again.
 
ZooCougar said:
Seriously? They are regulars in the Top 25 and better than most of the ACC.

Georgetown may never be good or great again.
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If you think Creighton is the addition that the ACC can't skip out on or they would be "absolute morons", then we can't talk about conference realignment together anymore...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...
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Creighton averaged 17k fans last year, 6th nationally. I think this basketball-only merger stuff is a fantasy, but Creighton holds their own and then some. BE is lucky to have them and vice versa.
 
Rdkid said:
Creighton averaged 17k fans last year, 6th nationally. I think this basketball-only merger stuff is a fantasy, but Creighton holds their own and then some. BE is lucky to have them and vice versa.
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Settle down, fella. I never said I was unhappy that they were in the Big East. You'd have to explain how it makes sense for the ACC to pay them $17 million per year (the amount the ACC pays ND for Olympic sports). If you can't, then you'll finally understand the problem...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Settle down, fella. I never said I was unhappy that they were in the Big East. You'd have to explain how it makes sense for the ACC to pay them $17 million per year (the amount the ACC pays ND for Olympic sports). If you can't, then you'll finally understand the problem...
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Do you think ND gets $17M for its Olympic sports, or is there some additional amount thrown in for scheduling and other things.
If you breakdown ACC payouts, the Non football isn’t $17M for everybody. That is too high.

I’d think ACC nonfb is close to what BE gets.
 
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Um, I said I think this talk of non-FB schools merging into the ACC is a fantasy. Besides us, teams to “cherry pick” that don’t need “feeding” at your stated price tag (it would never, ever be ND money) don’t exist. It definitely is not GTown. I guess we’re agreeing that all of this talk is nonsense, regardless of what Coach K suggests. K sees the writing on the wall when UNC is investing millions in football to assure its P2 golden ticket in a few years. Duke not paired with UNC is in trouble. Now Duke w/ UConn… nope, still not anywhere near the same.
 
uconnyankee said:
Do you think ND gets $17M for its Olympic sports, or is there some additional amount thrown in for scheduling and other things.
If you breakdown ACC payouts, the Non football isn’t $17M for everybody. That is too high.

I’d think ACC nonfb is close to what BE gets.
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If the offer wasn't at least noticeably better than the current 7 million per year from the Big East, then it wouldn't happen on our end anyways. So even if we call it 13 million per team, and staying with the fantasy of cherry-picking non-football teams, I don't think Creighton is in the top 4 or 5 of their Big East wish list...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Settle down, fella. I never said I was unhappy that they were in the Big East. You'd have to explain how it makes sense for the ACC to pay them $17 million per year (the amount the ACC pays ND for Olympic sports). If you can't, then you'll finally understand the problem...
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But it makes sense to pay Georgetown that sum?

Oooooook.
 
UConnDan97 said:
If the offer wasn't at least noticeably better than the current 7 million per year from the Big East, then it wouldn't happen on our end anyways.
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Although I think there would be a "prisoners dilemma" element here.
 
UConnDan97 said:
If the offer wasn't at least noticeably better than the current 7 million per year from the Big East, then it wouldn't happen on our end anyways. So even if we call it 13 million per team, and staying with the fantasy of cherry-picking non-football teams, I don't think Creighton is in the top 4 or 5 of their Big East wish list...
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If they gave us 7 mil a year and a place to play football then it wouid be a better deal than what SMU got. Of course we’d take it at this point.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
If the offer wasn't at least noticeably better than the current 7 million per year from the Big East, then it wouldn't happen on our end anyways. So even if we call it 13 million per team, and staying with the fantasy of cherry-picking non-football teams, I don't think Creighton is in the top 4 or 5 of their Big East wish list...
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Anyone that could go should go but I just see it becoming Big East 3.0 after a couple other schools leave in a decade. It'll end up a six team football league, and then we'll need to grab MAC schools to backfill to FBS. The basketball only schools will hate it like they did before and it'll cause a bunch of issues.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...
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Creighton has certainly pulled its weight. The team performance and the fan base have been impressive. A merger is what the ACC whiffed on last time. The ACC tried to piecemeal it and the Big East teams floundered. A merger brings in the whole which is greater than the sum of its parts. Omaha is midwest. Creighton is better basketball than Nebraska. Marquette is better than Wiscy. Xavier can be better than Ohio State. DePaul God help us could be good someday. If the merger would make it the best basketball conference, even better to do it in the B1G footprint and attack both the B1G and SEC head on. Northeast, Midwest, Atlantic Coast.
 
UConnDan97 said:
Why? They need to have the Nebraska market locked up?? Or they just need to have our 6th best team??

Either it's a full merger, or they are going to cherry pick the teams that don't require a large amount of feeding. You would REALLY need to show me that Creighton fits the latter...
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Well, when it comes to realignment - this is my fear because hey see RULE#1 regarding realignment. They invite St. Johns, Georgetown, Creighton, Marquette Villanova and UConn*. But they tell UConn don't even think we will give you anything regarding football. In fact if you even broach the subject we will tear your invite up! ...and they would look at us as if we would need a large amount of feeding with regards to Football, regardless of the season we have had in football. Again to reiterate this is not what I want nor what I believe but this is the ACC. Again with realignment see RULE #1.
 
JMick said:
Anyone that could go should go but I just see it becoming Big East 3.0 after a couple other schools leave in a decade. It'll end up a six team football league, and then we'll need to grab MAC schools to backfill to FBS. The basketball only schools will hate it like they did before and it'll cause a bunch of issues.
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Any port in a storm, my friend.
 
ZooCougar said:
If they gave us 7 mil a year and a place to play football then it wouid be a better deal than what SMU got. Of course we’d take it at this point.
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Hell, if that's our strategy I'd start with a phone call to the B1G and tell them we're willing to join for all sports at $7 million a year.
 
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CL82 said:
Although I think there would be a "prisoners dilemma" element here.
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This is 100% of what is happened to the big east. Instead of sticking together, each independently is going to do what’s best for them.
 
ACC/BIG EAST/GONZAGA

NON-FOOTBALL

NORTHSOUTH
Boston CollegeCal
ButlerClemson
CreightonDuke
DePaulFlorida State
LouisvilleGeorgetown
MarquetteGeorgia Tech
Notre DameGonzaga
PittsburghMiami
ProvidenceNC State
Seton HallSMU
St. John'sStanford
SyracuseUNC
UConnUVA
VillanovaVirginia Tech
XavierWake Forest

FOOTBALL

NORTHSOUTH
Boston CollegeClemson
CalDuke
LouisvilleFlorida State
PittsburghGeorgia Tech
StanfordMiami
SyracuseNC State
UConnSMU
UVAUNC
Virgina TechWake Forest
 
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