Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[zls44]

The cable providers themselves STRONGLY disagree with you. Charter's CEO is on the record as saying he makes no money from selling television.

MSN

www.msn.com

What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.

Classic Nelson Dunning-Kruger here: one cable executive with a long history of ridiculous statements makes a ridiculous statement, therefore it is the belief of all cable providers.

 

[John]

Classic Nelson Dunning-Kruger here: one cable executive with a long history of ridiculous statements makes a ridiculous statement, therefore it is the belief of all cable providers.

He knows some AAU families and therefore knows entire youth sport industry will collapse under P2.

 

[zls44]

He knows some AAU families and therefore knows entire youth sport industry will collapse under P2.

IT IS SIMPLY UNAVOIDABLE FACT

 

[huskymedic]

-> Any UNC System school — and that includes UNC Chapel Hill and N.C. State University — that wants to change athletic conferences will have to get approval from the system president and the board under a policy change approved by a board committee Wednesday.

The change must be approved by the full 24-member Board of Governors before it goes into effect. The change will appear on the consent agenda at the board's Feb. 28-29 meeting.

The University Governance committee approved the move Wednesday.

"The purpose of this notice is to provide the President the opportunity to weigh in on the potential impacts of the agreement, including those that may impact the financial health of the intercollegiate athletic program, contract risk or legal risk associated with that agreement," Kellie Hunt Blue, chair of the university governance committee, told the board Thursday.

"The amendments also provide the Board of Governors with an opportunity to review any agreements and financial plans with legal counsel so that they may inform a constituent institution of any potential legal risk." <-

 

[CL82]

-> Any UNC System school — and that includes UNC Chapel Hill and N.C. State University — that wants to change athletic conferences will have to get approval from the system president and the board under a policy change approved by a board committee Wednesday.

The change must be approved by the full 24-member Board of Governors before it goes into effect. The change will appear on the consent agenda at the board's Feb. 28-29 meeting.

The University Governance committee approved the move Wednesday.

"The purpose of this notice is to provide the President the opportunity to weigh in on the potential impacts of the agreement, including those that may impact the financial health of the intercollegiate athletic program, contract risk or legal risk associated with that agreement," Kellie Hunt Blue, chair of the university governance committee, told the board Thursday.

"The amendments also provide the Board of Governors with an opportunity to review any agreements and financial plans with legal counsel so that they may inform a constituent institution of any potential legal risk." <-

Note that this does not say UNC can't leave the ACC without NC State. it just says that either university must first go to the state board of governors and get permission. There's not a doubt in my mind that there would be a little bit of pressure, or at least questions whether NC State could tagalong, but, if UNC says we have the chance to make $80 million a year versus $35 million a year in media revenue alone, that the board of governors is not going to OK the move.

 

[billybud]

The ACC is all about North Carolina...with four teams in state (UNC, NC State, Duke, and Wake), the ACC HQ, and tournaments in Charlotte...

If the ACC went the way of the Pac12, North Carolina might feel that it would be a significant loss.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Note that this does not say UNC can't leave the ACC without NC State. it just says that either university must first go to the state board of governors and get permission. There's not a doubt in my mind that there would be a little bit of pressure, or at least questions whether NC State could tagalong, but, if UNC says we have the chance to make $80 million a year versus $35 million a year in media revenue alone, that the board of governors is not going to OK the move.

Agreed - this gives proactive options to the state board so as to give them the chance to approve UNC to go with NC State as long as they pay a Calimony type payment to NC State and or other considerations; so they can avoid a public s-show like what happened when UCLA left Cal behind.

 

[Vowelguy]

The ACC is all about North Carolina...with four teams in state (UNC, NC State, Duke, and Wake), the ACC HQ, and tournaments in Charlotte...

If the ACC went the way of the Pac12, North Carolina might feel that it would be a significant loss.

I get that. But ultimately the choice may be:

• get out (and make $80M/year)
• or save the UNC-centered conference (which will become the 'best' G5)

Giving the illusion that you have a choice in such a situation only seems to invite trouble.

Though I do hear that poverty is grand, I'm reminded of Hartford's Sophie Tucker: "I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is better."

 

[billybud]

Exactly. Do what is best for one team or what is best for the North Carolina system. Who knows? Appalachian State could be a fill or ECU or both. The ACC..The All Carolina Conference.

 

[billybud]

And there are some old boys in North Carolina who wouldn’t mind getting off the. football treadmill and getting back to Duke and UNC basketball.

 

[Kolumbo]

I'd love to see the ACC go their own way and keep the ACC together. They weren't football powers, they won't be competing with the football powers, so don't go chasing gold when you can do something more interesting. Dissolve the conference and regroup, let FSU and Clemson go if they want to. Keep all the major state schools, kick louisville and bcu to the curb. Invite UConn and maybe see if you can convince the Kansases and Okie State to join. Be the best basketball conference. Maybe some type of alliance with the Big East so you have the East Coast and basketball.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

I'd love to see the ACC go their own way and keep the ACC together. They weren't football powers, they won't be competing with the football powers, so don't go chasing gold when you can do something more interesting. Dissolve the conference and regroup, let FSU and Clemson go if they want to. Keep all the major state schools, kick louisville and bcu to the curb. Invite UConn and maybe see if you can convince the Kansases and Okie State to join. Be the best basketball conference. Maybe some type of alliance with the Big East so you have the East Coast and basketball.

Negative zero chance.

 

[Husky25]

so don't go chasing gold when you can do something more interesting.

"Was that accidental or were you trying to (specifically avoid) quoting TLC on purpose?"

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[CoastAtlantic]

 

[Rockford]

UNC knows FSU is in a strong offensive position in its lawsuit against the ACC. This is very telling with the timing same as FSU's amended filing yeterday in FL court that has been deemed a scorcher.

 

[How Sway?!]

UNC knows FSU is in a strong offensive position in its lawsuit against the ACC. This is very telling with the timing same as FSU's amended filing yeterday in FL court that has been deemed a scorcher.

The person that called it a scorcher is the managing editor of warchant. Not the most unbiased of sources

 

[bobbyinaz]

There has always been some stink around the ACC/Raycom deal with Swofford and his son involved.

If there are communications showing that Swofford insisted on Raycom getting a piece of the ACC deal, it could be the smoking gun FSU can use to blow it all up.

 

[Ha Who]

There has always been some stink around the ACC/Raycom deal with Swofford and his son involved.

If there are communications showing that Swofford insisted on Raycom getting a piece of the ACC deal, it could be the smoking gun FSU can use to blow it all

If you lie down with the Devil, you will wake up in hell

 

[Vowelguy]

If you lie down with the Devil, you will wake up in hell

I thought the sinners were much more fun?

 

[Chuck]

To be clear, I don't think this will happen. But, how awesome would it be (except for the FSU guy that's here) if Florida State winds up in a San Diego State situation. They get their way and the GOR and exit fee are lowered. Then their conference mates get the call over them with the Big Ten (Miami) and SEC (UF blocks them) and they are stuck taking an SMU-type deal somewhere or having to apologize to the ACC and stay. Just a dream, but some of this same bluster of lawsuits and ad hominem attacks are what got UConn blackballed by schools like FSU.

 

[Rockford]

To be clear, I don't think this will happen. But, how awesome would it be (except for the FSU guy that's here) if Florida State winds up in a San Diego State situation. They get their way and the GOR and exit fee are lowered. Then their conference mates get the call over them with the Big Ten (Miami) and SEC (UF blocks them) and they are stuck taking an SMU-type deal somewhere or having to apologize to the ACC and stay. Just a dream, but some of this same bluster of lawsuits and ad hominem attacks are what got UConn blackballed by schools like FSU.

As a UConn fan we should hope the ACC is just fractured and not completely put out of business. Make no mistake- FSU, UNC are heading to the P2. Miami, UVA, Clemson uncertain. UConn should then be a target of the ACC- football, hoops, all sports a good fit.....UConn needs to find a home for football- independent status is not sustainable.

 

[prankster]

As a UConn fan we should hope the ACC is just fractured and not completely put out of business. Make no mistake- FSU, UNC are heading to the P2. Miami, UVA, Clemson uncertain. UConn should then be a target of the ACC- football, hoops, all sports a good fit.....UConn needs to find a home for football- independent status is not sustainable.

It ain't just FSU, Clemson, Miami and several others are licking their chops right now.

If FSU wins, there will be a dash for the exit among at least 5 ACC schools.

You can almost smell realignment in the air.

 

[storrsroars]

It ain't just FSU, Clemson, Miami and several others are licking their chops right now.

If FSU wins, there will be a dash for the exit among at least 5 ACC schools.

You can almost smell realignment in the air.

The thing is, will all those teams have a landing spot?

One thing I rarely see discussed is whether the SEC would jettison a couple of schools to make room for proven football powerhouses. Vandy for sure, maybe Kentucky. Those two likely join the ACC. If the SEC wants to make more room, maybe Arkansas and Missouri get the boot. They could join the B12 with WVU and Cincy coming over to the ACC.

In the end, maybe enough convolution occurs that once again Rule 1 leaves us standing without a chair.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The thing is, will all those teams have a landing spot?

One thing I rarely see discussed is whether the SEC would jettison a couple of schools to make room for proven football powerhouses. Vandy for sure, maybe Kentucky. Those two likely join the ACC. If the SEC wants to make more room, maybe Arkansas and Missouri get the boot. They could join the B12 with WVU and Cincy coming over to the ACC.

In the end, maybe enough convolution occurs that once again Rule 1 leaves us standing without a chair.

No one is getting booted in this round of consolidation (maybe in 5-10 years but it seems like it'd be a school opting out rather than getting booted out)... Seems like ACC movement could be 2 to B1G, 2 to SEC, and 4 to Big12. That leaves the ACC remnants needing to backfill a bit to replenish both from a FB and BB standpoint.