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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Fishy said:
They weren’t kicked out of a conference…their conference left without them.

You know, like what happened to UConn.

But back to your fever dreams and unicorn wishes.
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Unicorn wishes? You are the one that thinks a P2 revenue model predicated on the cable bundle will rebound and last forever.

This is like debating with someone who thinks beepers are making a comeback.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Unicorn wishes? You are the one that thinks a P2 revenue model predicated on the cable bundle will rebound and last forever.

This is like debating with someone who thinks beepers are making a comeback.
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I thought you might mention blackberries too
 
Anybody who thinks cable is dying a quick death is a fool. Especially given restaurants and bars need something easy to manage its tvs.
 
CL82 said:
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Inside the club and broke, is probably better than outside the club and broke.
 
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Rufus said:
Kicking teams out is complicated. It's more than sports. Look at the B1G ---- they have the B1G Academic Alliance in which each school integrates many of its services/offerings/research with the other member schools. Also, each B1G school has partial ownership of the BTN. It's not as simple as "Well ok, you are kicked out of the B1G, now go away." I don't see any school getting kicked out. Plus, someone has to eat those football/basketball losses for the top brands.
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I don‘t see anyone being kicked out. I see teams leaving en masse for a new football only league.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
No team has been kicked out of a major conference.
Two conferences have been destroyed with 4 teams being left without major conference homes
that’s not the same thing. But new teams have been added
Losers
OSU
WSU
UConn
USF
Winners ( not in BCS conferences prior to 2012)
Houston
UCF
TCU
BYU
SMU
So the total number has been pretty steady despite the loss of conferences.
If history is a guide if the ACC doesn’t survives 2-3 teams will be left behind but if your at the top of your game 2-3 teams will be added. My suggestion is have your ticket ready.
Temple is a bad example because the Old Big East had to drop them to make room for UConn because the basketball schools didn’t want to upset the balance of power. That’s the way The Old Big East was run and why it self destructed.
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Technically TCU was in a BCS conference, they were invited to the Big East prior to Pitt and Syracuse leaving. They may not have officially started play in the conference at that point, but if the Big 12 had not invited them then they would be on the Losers list.
 
Patman said:
Anybody who thinks cable is dying a quick death is a fool. Especially given restaurants and bars need something easy to manage its tvs.
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The cable providers themselves STRONGLY disagree with you. Charter's CEO is on the record as saying he makes no money from selling television.


What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.
 
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bobbyinaz said:
ESPN should start buying out all the long term deals they are in so they can come up with this $1.3 billion
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I think it should go to open market where it could rake in $1.5-$2 billion. Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?
 
nelsonmuntz said:
What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.
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Disney is already talking about going back to licensing their content because Disney+ and ESPN+ are failures. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
 
Rufus said:
I think it should go to open market where it could rake in $1.5-$2 billion. Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?
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Rufus said:
Why settle for an opening offer from ESPN?
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...said George Kliavkoff, probably.

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"I mean what's the worst thing that could happen if we say no?"​
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The cable providers themselves STRONGLY disagree with you. Charter's CEO is on the record as saying he makes no money from selling television.


What you will see more of is bundling streaming and cable services together, but the cost of that has to come from somewhere, and ESPN is a big, fat target.
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Classic Nelson Dunning-Kruger here: one cable executive with a long history of ridiculous statements makes a ridiculous statement, therefore it is the belief of all cable providers.
 
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zls44 said:
Classic Nelson Dunning-Kruger here: one cable executive with a long history of ridiculous statements makes a ridiculous statement, therefore it is the belief of all cable providers.
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He knows some AAU families and therefore knows entire youth sport industry will collapse under P2.
 
John said:
He knows some AAU families and therefore knows entire youth sport industry will collapse under P2.
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IT IS SIMPLY UNAVOIDABLE FACT
 


-> Any UNC System school — and that includes UNC Chapel Hill and N.C. State University — that wants to change athletic conferences will have to get approval from the system president and the board under a policy change approved by a board committee Wednesday.

The change must be approved by the full 24-member Board of Governors before it goes into effect. The change will appear on the consent agenda at the board's Feb. 28-29 meeting.

The University Governance committee approved the move Wednesday.

"The purpose of this notice is to provide the President the opportunity to weigh in on the potential impacts of the agreement, including those that may impact the financial health of the intercollegiate athletic program, contract risk or legal risk associated with that agreement," Kellie Hunt Blue, chair of the university governance committee, told the board Thursday.

"The amendments also provide the Board of Governors with an opportunity to review any agreements and financial plans with legal counsel so that they may inform a constituent institution of any potential legal risk." <-
 
huskymedic said:


-> Any UNC System school — and that includes UNC Chapel Hill and N.C. State University — that wants to change athletic conferences will have to get approval from the system president and the board under a policy change approved by a board committee Wednesday.

The change must be approved by the full 24-member Board of Governors before it goes into effect. The change will appear on the consent agenda at the board's Feb. 28-29 meeting.

The University Governance committee approved the move Wednesday.

"The purpose of this notice is to provide the President the opportunity to weigh in on the potential impacts of the agreement, including those that may impact the financial health of the intercollegiate athletic program, contract risk or legal risk associated with that agreement," Kellie Hunt Blue, chair of the university governance committee, told the board Thursday.

"The amendments also provide the Board of Governors with an opportunity to review any agreements and financial plans with legal counsel so that they may inform a constituent institution of any potential legal risk." <-
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Note that this does not say UNC can't leave the ACC without NC State. it just says that either university must first go to the state board of governors and get permission. There's not a doubt in my mind that there would be a little bit of pressure, or at least questions whether NC State could tagalong, but, if UNC says we have the chance to make $80 million a year versus $35 million a year in media revenue alone, that the board of governors is not going to OK the move.
 
The ACC is all about North Carolina...with four teams in state (UNC, NC State, Duke, and Wake), the ACC HQ, and tournaments in Charlotte...

If the ACC went the way of the Pac12, North Carolina might feel that it would be a significant loss.
 
CL82 said:
Note that this does not say UNC can't leave the ACC without NC State. it just says that either university must first go to the state board of governors and get permission. There's not a doubt in my mind that there would be a little bit of pressure, or at least questions whether NC State could tagalong, but, if UNC says we have the chance to make $80 million a year versus $35 million a year in media revenue alone, that the board of governors is not going to OK the move.
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Agreed - this gives proactive options to the state board so as to give them the chance to approve UNC to go with NC State as long as they pay a Calimony type payment to NC State and or other considerations; so they can avoid a public s-show like what happened when UCLA left Cal behind.
 
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billybud said:
The ACC is all about North Carolina...with four teams in state (UNC, NC State, Duke, and Wake), the ACC HQ, and tournaments in Charlotte...

If the ACC went the way of the Pac12, North Carolina might feel that it would be a significant loss.
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I get that. But ultimately the choice may be:
  • get out (and make $80M/year)
  • or save the UNC-centered conference (which will become the 'best' G5)

Giving the illusion that you have a choice in such a situation only seems to invite trouble.

Though I do hear that poverty is grand, I'm reminded of Hartford's Sophie Tucker: "I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is better."
 
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