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I’m a little torn as far as schedule goes. I think the PAC would offer a tough schedule that is better than the AAC and more interesting too. I’m just not sure how fans will feel about it. I’m a football fan, so I can identify it as a good conference with strong programs. I’m not sure if casual fans would or not. The nice thing is when you say Washington St, Oregon St , Utah St etc., it sounds a lot more big time than East Carolina or Tulane to a non-fan.
 
I don’t understand why the P4 would care. I’d assume they’d just force the G5 leagues to dilute their playoff distribution by the number of newly elevated programs.
 
ScottVib said:
UConn is not going to be the 8th member. They need 8 football + all sports members to count for the FB autobid. Gonzaga/UConn (or Hawaii, etc) doesn’t get it done.

UConn would be #9 if something happened giving them an 8 game conference slate and guaranteeing all members 4 home football games a year (vs 3 then 4 in alternating years).
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I don’t think that is right. I think 8 members in all sports except football to be a conference then 8 football teams to get the G5 bid.
 
Kembafan said:
I can’t understand why they didn’t simply merge the two conferences by dissolving the MWC and then invite all of them to join the pac. There were 4 schools they didn’t want I guess. So make a deal with those. I dunno it seems like this should’ve been easier.
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MWC commish/schools wanted a gigantic slice of the PAC buyout money (from B1G and B12 defectors) to work with Oregon St and Wazzu. Oregon St and Wazzu then thought might as well just buy the top of the MWC, make a play at the AAC, and let the MWC fall apart and pick up the pieces if needed. MWC commish doesn't want to lose her job and the bottom part of the MWC doesn't want to be left behind so they fight to keep the conference alive. Ultimately it ends with both conferences and all the schools being compromised (except maybe Air Force and UNLV with this huge retention bonus).

At this point I think it probably makes more sense for the majority of the schools to wipe the slate clean, agree to a reasonable reverse merger (some PAC buyout money is distributed and Oregon St and Wazzu keep a fair share), and everybody sucks it up. Though it looks like that won't happen, which is seemingly great news for UConn football!
 
So, if they bring in Gonzaga as a full, as full as can be anyway, and bring in UConn as a football only, would that constitute a full member for the PAC.
 
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Kembafan said:
I can’t understand why they didn’t simply merge the two conferences by dissolving the MWC and then invite all of them to join the pac. There were 4 schools they didn’t want I guess. So make a deal with those. I dunno it seems like this should’ve been easier.
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Everyone in the Pac-12 found a new home except OSU and Wazzou. Goes to show how expensive it is to keep the bottom dwellers of a conference and how little value those bottom dwellers have when a conference is dissected piece by piece.
 
JMick said:
I'd have to imagine this is good for us. It leaves them more desperate for a "brand" and they probably only want to add one more full member if they can get Gonzaga for basketball and us for football.
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They have to add one more full sports member first. Let's hope that Texas State says no, and UTEP says yes. IMO, that is best case scenario.
 
JMick said:
I'd have to imagine this is good for us. It leaves them more desperate for a "brand" and they probably only want to add one more full member if they can get Gonzaga for basketball and us for football.
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“Want” to only add one more member or “can’t”?

PAC needs one more full member and MWC needs two. Where are all these programs gonna come from? Western block of Sun Belt I guess? Are they gonna wanna leave to join the giant cluster that these two leagues have created?

Move up a bunch of FCS schools?

What a mess.
 
Chonky said:
“Want” to only add one more member or “can’t”?

PAC needs one more full member and MWC needs two. Where are all these programs gonna come from? Western block of Sun Belt I guess? Are they gonna wanna leave to join the giant cluster that these two leagues have created?

Move up a bunch of FCS schools?

What a mess.
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The Pac-12 will not add an FCS program. They will target Texas State and then likely UTEP.
 
shizzle787 said:
The Pac-12 will not add an FCS program. They will target Texas State and then likely UTEP.
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My point was there are 3 vacancies between the two conferences. There are only so many bodies to go around. Unless the Sun Belt gets blown up (hey….could happen) and/or FCS gets involved I don’t think either conference will be able to get much past 8-10. Which would be good for us.

UTEP or Texas St…..I’d prefer Texas St if we end up in PAC as well. Much easier to fly into than El Paso. May as well expand into Chihuahua, Mexico at that point.
 
shizzle787 said:
They have to add one more full sports member first. Let's hope that Texas State says no, and UTEP says yes. IMO, that is best case scenario.
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Why do you hope UTEP > Texas St? Texas St has way more upside imo
 
Chonky said:
“Want” to only add one more member or “can’t”?

PAC needs one more full member and MWC needs two. Where are all these programs gonna come from? Western block of Sun Belt I guess? Are they gonna wanna leave to join the giant cluster that these two leagues have created?

Move up a bunch of FCS schools?

What a mess.
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Sun belt is definitely getting raided. If the new PAC performs well then we will probably see more MWC schools defect in a few years, depending on what their agreement looks like.
 
WrenchFan69 said:
Why do you hope UTEP > Texas St? Texas St has way more upside imo
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UTEP has a bigger brand historically and they have a fanbase. They regularly get over 40,000 to games at the Sun Bowl. Also, if we have to do a scheduling agreement for basketball, UTEP is much preferred over Texas State.
 
Chonky said:
My point was there are 3 vacancies between the two conferences. There are only so many bodies to go around. Unless the Sun Belt gets blown up (hey….could happen) and/or FCS gets involved I don’t think either conference will be able to get much past 8-10. Which would be good for us.

UTEP or Texas St…..I’d prefer Texas St if we end up in PAC as well. Much easier to fly into than El Paso. May as well expand into Chihuahua, Mexico at that point.
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Sure. I don’t see either going much past 10. 8 is too small though, especially for basketball.
 
Chonky said:
UTEP or Texas St…..I’d prefer Texas St if we end up in PAC as well. Much easier to fly into than El Paso. May as well expand into Chihuahua, Mexico at that point
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For what it's worth, the big 12 had a plan to expand into Mexico...
 
shizzle787 said:
UTEP has a bigger brand historically and they have a fanbase. They regularly get over 40,000 to games at the Sun Bowl. Also, if we have to do a scheduling agreement for basketball, UTEP is much preferred over Texas State.
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They averaged 18.2k fans last year and they have had one game with 40k or more fans in the past decade.
 
Drew said:
Shhhhh don’t let facts get in the way. Shizzle is cooking
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UConnJim said:
They averaged 18.2k fans last year and they have had one game with 40k or more fans in the past decade.
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They literally had 41,000 two weeks ago against FCS Southern Utah... and over 40,000 for North Texas only two years ago.
 
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