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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

XStorrsion said:
This group isn't fending off the pillagers (B1G, SEC, XII) by adding two California schools that none of those conferences wanted.

Map for emphasis of how much of a misfit it would be to add them three time zones away.
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The B12 isn't going to pillage anyone. The money won't be there.

1st, which of these ACC schools adds value to the SEC and B1G? There are only 4 that do. That means everyone else remains.

But what remains is stronger than the B12.

If I'm the ACC, I'm looking at Kansas and Texas Tech as prime candidates for pillaging myself.

The B12 is roughly where the Pac12 was at several years ago, boasting about their superiority, talking openly about pillaging other conferences. This is where the B12 is at. Schadenfreude coming their way.
 
Seamus84 said:
While I don’t agree with Nelson’s take on NU and Vandy (I have personal experience at both schools), I can see a day when the top academic universities with large endowments and uncertain futures - Stan, UC, Duke, WF, BC, GTech, etc - say enough is enough (reliance of football) and explore another model.
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The boss move here when the money drives up is to create a 16 team basketball league, maybe one that also has football to a diminished level.
 
If I recall correctly, I thought it was posted that ESPN adivsed the Big 12 that UConn should be added if they were to expand again after they took the 3 G5 schools plus BYU. What ever happened to that? I also wonder if the CT government officials have bothered to put any pressure on ESPN at all? In any case, it is really time for the State of CT to look at removing all tax breaks from ESPN.
 
Rockford said:
This guy have realignment cred or just another slick blogger / writer? Seems to be a jack of all trades- pro / college.
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Zags is a legit college basketball writer. Not sure how much he'd know on the realignment front, but if he's reporting something, it's true.
 
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buddy said:
If I recall correctly, I thought it was posted that ESPN adivsed the Big 12 that UConn should be added if they were to expand again after they took the 3 G5 schools plus BYU. What ever happened to that? I also wonder if the CT government officials have bothered to put any pressure on ESPN at all? In any case, it is really time for the State of CT to look at removing all tax breaks from ESPN.
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I said the bolded part earlier and got mocked for it. Why should the State continue to give these crooks hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks when they screw the flagship institution at every step of the way? It's disgusting.
 
buddy said:
If I recall correctly, I thought it was posted that ESPN adivsed the Big 12 that UConn should be added if they were to expand again after they took the 3 G5 schools plus BYU. What ever happened to that? I also wonder if the CT government officials have bothered to put any pressure on ESPN at all? In any case, it is really time for the State of CT to look at removing all tax breaks from ESPN.
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What happened to that? Why would they do that when they can raid the PAC 12?

They didn’t do that because the opportunity to kill a conference presented itself.
 
Rewster said:
The guy who does a podcast from the cab of his truck seemed to think an odd number of teams in a conference works. Was it 15 or 17?
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That guy said that 17 is one of the magic numbers for scheduling purposes. So I guess if the Big 12 and the media partners wanted it, it could happen. However, all of the talking heads are saying four additions to the Big 12.

 
Pat125 said:
He may have had inside information, and was really in the know. But when asked why UConn had to wait to be invited, he had no answer. So, at that point, it was clear that it was not a certainty. Anyway, he is not wrong yet.
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Originally he was emphatic that it was UConn and Colorado but only as a pair. He implied UConn was on board but our fate was dependent on Colorado leaving the PAC. The B12 does not want an odd number of schools. When he got word that Colorado made up its mind he passed that along to us before it became public knowledge.

When Colorado announced last Thursday he confirmed we would be next. I believe within minutes he came back and wrote that an entirely unexpected development happened. U of A which had spurned B12 up until that point contacted the conference with a desire to join. He was the first to pronounce this other than those twitter folks we post in these forums who create every scenario imaginable in their tweets.

He stated a short interval was needed but he was emphatic it was gong to be quick (within two weeks) and Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and UConn would be the four that joined.

He stated he was not happy Arizona State was going to be included.

He left saying if something in that interval happens which changes that outcome he would come back here and take his lumps.

I suggest anyone who wants to read his messages to us for confirmation of my recollection click on one of his posts and then click “messages” to observe everything he has written.

IMO he has access to the B12 conference or someone with contacts and has kindly passed along information to us throughout this episode.
 
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ctchamps said:
Originally he was emphatic that it was UConn and Colorado but only as a pair. He implied UConn was on board but our fate was dependent on Colorado leaving the PAC. The B12 does not want an odd number of schools. When he got word that Colorado made up its mind he passed that along to us before it became public knowledge.

When Colorado announced last Thursday he confirmed we would be next. I believe within minutes he came back and wrote that an entirely unexpected development happened. U of A which had spurned B12 up until that point contacted the conference with a desire to join. He was the first to pronounce this other than those twitter folks we post in these forums who create every scenario imaginable in their tweets.

He stated a short interval was needed but he was emphatic it was gong to be quick (within two weeks) and Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and UConn would be the four that joined.

He stated he was not happy Arizona State was going to be included.

He left saying if something in that interval happens which changes that outcome he would come back here and take his lumps.

I suggest anyone who wants to read his messages to us for confirmation of my recollection click on one of his posts and then click “messages” to observe everything he has written.

IMO he has access to the B12 conference or someone with contacts and has kindly passed along information to us throughout this episode.
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Yeah well he was wrong about the only thing that matters, which is UConn getting passed over for Utah.


Fishy said:
Wait....is there a glimmer of hope all of a sudden?
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No.
 
GG said:
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Ill Be Back Jim Carrey GIF
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Remember about a week and a half ago when I said that the theory that the Pac 12 would lose one team and then add UConn and we would live happily ever after was insane? Probably not, because you and the rest of this board were busy gargling the marbles of the Kansas fanboy who was pretending to be an insider.

I will give you something else to remember: Utah, ASU, UA and Colorado will regret turning down Apple to hop on the ESPN train that is going over a cliff.
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Bitter aren’t we
 
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kemba said:
Clearly that level of dedication means pac 12 survives
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That or everyone is headed to a beach house this afternoon so they need to get it over with quickly. If the 9 remaining schools sign a GOR this morning that would be crazy.
 
upstater said:
The B12 isn't going to pillage anyone. The money won't be there.

1st, which of these ACC schools adds value to the SEC and B1G? There are only 4 that do. That means everyone else remains.

But what remains is stronger than the B12.

If I'm the ACC, I'm looking at Kansas and Texas Tech as prime candidates for pillaging myself.

The B12 is roughly where the Pac12 was at several years ago, boasting about their superiority, talking openly about pillaging other conferences. This is where the B12 is at. Schadenfreude coming their way.
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ND, UNC, UVA, FSU, Miami, Clemson all add value. This is further exaggerated by the want to condense the top end of the NCAA down to 2 or 3 conferences. If these 6 can make any amount more in the SEC or B1G, even if an unequal distribution, they seemingly take it as soon as the GOR ends.

The 9 remaining are 100% not stronger than the XII. They all beg the B1G, SEC, and XII for any path to get in, knowing that anyone who doesn't is doomed to the new G5 like Oregon St and Washington St.

But I certainly agree that the ACC should try poaching XII schools before the GOR ends as a last attempt at survival. Just don't think any XII schools answer the call. It seems like the XII is now safe UNLESS/until the B1G and SEC decide to destroy them by purposefully poaching XII teams.
 
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Sounds to me like the one fleeting hope we have left is that Utah, or maybe ASU, hates the idea of joining the Big 12 sooooo much that they stay put where they’re more comfortable, in the Pac-whatever. Washington and Oregon deciding to stay (for now) certainly helps. Not sure it’s enough, but maybe there’s a chance.
 
buddy said:
If I recall correctly, I thought it was posted that ESPN adivsed the Big 12 that UConn should be added if they were to expand again after they took the 3 G5 schools plus BYU. What ever happened to that? I also wonder if the CT government officials have bothered to put any pressure on ESPN at all? In any case, it is really time for the State of CT to look at removing all tax breaks from ESPN.
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That was in 2016 when we did the dog and pony show for the Big 12. ESPN was quoted as saying something like “while we prefer you not expand, we hope you give consideration to our in-state neighbor UConn”.
 
The key to this is Arizona. If they're still planning on staying in the Pac then we have a legit shot here. Otherwise, they're #14 and it's all done.
 
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