Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ZooCougar]

“I did have conversations with UConn and Gonzaga, and unfortunately, things didn’t work out, only because the dream scenario unfolded for us. So those conversations are no longer,” Yormark said. “I’m a big admirer of both of those programs, they’re fantastic for all the right reasons. But right now I’m focused on the transition of those four (schools) in right now.”

In other words, adding what is undoubtedly the PREMIER (or at minimum most successful) college basketball program over the last quarter century is NOT a dream scenario for the B12 and its lofty aspirations to be a football AND basketball power. Let this sink in. UConn was sacrificial bait last summer; it really didn't take the PAC to blow up to block UConn's presumed invitation...if they really wanted UConn, UConn there to be taken. A year later, rumblings of the ACC splintering. Well slap my arse with a wet kipper, another conference may blow up, and there goes another spot for UConn. Yuckmack is a shyster. He can "admire" all he wants, his words are as empty as the shelves for NCAA mens' basketball championship trophies at Arizona State, BYU, Colorado, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU, Texas Tech, UCF, and West Virginia.

Isn’t this quite kind of old?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It’s really amazing in this day and age that BYU is more palatable than a UConn.

I think the Big 12 would take a mulligan.

BYU is normally very solid in football and has been ranked more often in the past decade than we have been in our history. They also have a large (I believe ~65k seat) football stadium that usually sells out.

We can brag about how we are more attractive in many other sports and on many non-athletic levels but the reality (which somehow still eludes most of us) is that football is far more important than everything else combined.

If we fix our football program we have a legitimate shot, until then, we will be where we are.

 

[KryHavok]

You’re assuming that they are no longer interested in UConn. I don’t believe that to be true.

If they were interested, we'd be in. As we're not, we're but a mere "yeah, they're good in bball, but let's see who else we can get".

Isn’t this quite kind of old?

Considering that eyes seem to be on the implosion of the ACC, I think it still makes it relevant.

 

[CL82]

It’s really amazing in this day and age that BYU is more palatable than a UConn.

I think the Big 12 would take a mulligan.

Remember that one of the criticisms of Connecticut as a possible big 12 partner, I believe made by an athletic Director, was that we had a "eastern culture." I'm not saying that that made or broke the deal, but it was something that at least one guy talked about. Connecticut is a very liberal state. Most of the big 12 is not. Things that you or I wouldn't think twice about may seem like a red flag to them.

 

[upstater]

The ACC probably looks at UConn as part of its post raid survival kit. If the Big 12 added UConn now they actually weaken the ACC and make the ACC post raid leftovers more likely to flee to the B12.

I wonder if the reverse is true.

If FSU and Clemson left the ACC, and at the same time the B12 offered UConn a spot, and UConn turned it down for the post-departure ACC, would that weaken the B12?

 

[CL82]

I wonder if the reverse is true.

If FSU and Clemson left the ACC, and at the same time the B12 offered UConn a spot, and UConn turned it down for the post-departure ACC, would that weaken the B12?

Not really. I wouldn't mind being in a bidding war, though. None of that "half share" bullshit.

 

[ZooCougar]

BYU is normally very solid in football and has been ranked more often in the past decade than we have been in our history. They also have a large (I believe ~65k seat) football stadium that usually sells out.

We can brag about how we are more attractive in many other sports and on many non-athletic levels but the reality (which somehow still eludes most of us) is that football is far more important than everything else combined.

If we fix our football program we have a legitimate shot, until then, we will be where we are.

Key words: “in this day and age”.

They aren’t really a school that people want to be associated with.

 

[ZooCougar]

Remember that one of the criticisms of Connecticut as a possible big 12 partner, I believe made by an athletic Director, was that we had a "eastern culture." I'm not saying that that made or broke the deal, but it was something that at least one guy talked about. Connecticut is a very liberal state. Most of the big 12 is not. Things that you or I wouldn't think twice about may seem like a red flag to them.

Yeah. I think they still want a mulligan.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Key words: “in this day and age”.

They aren’t really a school that people want to be associated with.

I doubt this is a strong as some try to imply.

 

[ZooCougar]

I doubt this is a strong as some try to imply.

It’s stronger. They aren’t kryptonite like Liberty but they are heading that way.

Unless you are a BYU person you don’t like them. Even some LDS people don’t like them.

 

[jostar1]

Isn’t this quite kind of old?

As I posted, this is from August of last year. I was just backing up what Forte posted.

 

[GoConn]

Assisted access <<

"UConn the last non-Notre Dame football independent standing, has won consecutive men’s basketball national titles, but feelings within the league on the Huskies remain mixed."

OK so let's play a game...if feelings are mixed, which schools are for and against us? My guess:

For:
Basketball schools who would want a blue blood like us:

• Kansas
• Houston
• Arizona
• Baylor
• Arizona

Old conference foes who would open to reunion:

• WVU
• Cincy
• UCF

Against:
Bigger time football schools who would oppose our football program:

• Utah
• Oklahoma State
• Kansas State
• TCU
• Texas Tech
• Colorado

I have literally don't have a clue what they are thinking:

• Arizona State
• BYU

 

[ZooCougar]

As I posted, this is from August of last year. I was just backing up what Forte posted.

Forte is a bed wetter.

You can see smoke above the treetops.

I heard something 3-4 weeks ago and took it with a grain of salt. Then the rumors are going again with Big 12 media days.

At this point I am like “hmmmm” but not getting my hopes up.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It’s stronger. They aren’t kryptonite like Liberty but they are heading that way.

Unless you are a BYU person you don’t like them. Even some LDS people don’t like them.

It didn't seem to bother those who voted to add them to the B-12.

 

[jostar1]

 

[ZooCougar]

It didn't seem to bother those who voted to add them to the B-12.

That was a few years ago.

Things have changed.

 

[JMick]

OK so let's play a game...if feelings are mixed, which schools are for and against us? My guess:

For:
Basketball schools who would want a blue blood like us:

• Kansas
• Houston
• Arizona
• Baylor
• Arizona

Old conference foes who would open to reunion:

• WVU
• Cincy
• UCF

Against:
Bigger time football schools who would oppose our football program:

• Utah
• Oklahoma State
• Kansas State
• TCU
• Texas Tech
• Colorado

I have literally don't have a clue what they are thinking:

• Arizona State
• BYU

I bet Utah and Colorado would be OK with us. Utah likes being associated with liberal universities because they're the anti-BYU. We fit Colorado culturally more than a lot of current members. UCF is probably anti-UConn because they have some sort of complex. Cinci is probably a toss up. Kansas probably wants us and Arizona and Arizona State would probably want us. West Virginia would be a definite yes. They want more East Coast

The hope would be that if Yormark really wants to add us, the new blood in the conference is on board. It might be easier to get the votes now.

 

[JMick]

I see a world where taking us off the board could have a similar albeit much smaller effect. If we were Big XII bound then that's one less team for the ACC to backfill with

 

[Exit 4]

I see a world where taking us off the board could have a similar albeit much smaller effect. If we were Big XII bound then that's one less team for the ACC to backfill with

That has to be one of the central arguments in Yormark's case for UConn.

 

[That Guy]

I still find it really strange how many schools don't want us to be in their conference. It makes no sense to me when you compare us to a lot of other schools

Our potential in football is very limited because we're a Northeast school + we prioritize basketball. All of these conferences would probably add OSU, WSU, Memphis, Tulane, Boise, SDSU before even thinking about adding us.

 

[Bonamassa]

Our potential in football is very limited because we're a Northeast school + we prioritize basketball. All of these conferences would probably add OSU, WSU, Memphis, Tulane, Boise, SDSU before even thinking about adding us.

Don't be That Guy.

 

[ZooCougar]

 

[That Guy]

Don't be That Guy.

Just stating absolute facts here. You realize these bozos added the likes of SMU and 2 schools from California to the "Atlantic Coast Conference" over us right?

 

[ZooCougar]

Just stating absolute facts here. You realize these bozos added the likes of SMU and 2 schools from California to the "Atlantic Coast Conference" over us right?

I think you are right.

Getting into a conference will require cutting a deal and some very direct engagement.

If we were just normal bad, not embarrassing bad that would help too.

 

[jostar1]