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As long the conference all your other sports are in doesn’t sponsor football. Similar to hockey being in Hockey East because the Big East doesn’t sponsor hockey.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a lawsuit challenging that along the way - it’ll be more billable hours for someone.
when you think about it it would be better for the schools to be able to “shop around” conferences for various sports…it’s always been stupid to use football to dictate basketball and olympic sport travel.
 

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when you think about it it would be better for the schools to be able to “shop around” conferences for various sports…it’s always been stupid to use football to dictate basketball and olympic sport travel.
Well, stupid from the outside looking in, but from the inside looking out, it's been pretty darn lucrative.
 
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it's very unlikely they would expand again until the new media deal runs out (2030), right?
 
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it's very unlikely they would expand again until the new media deal runs out (2030), right?
well, it all depends


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The whole point for UConn is to be in a P4 conference all-in to get the football revenue. If it means basketball to Big12 and football not invited, no thanks.
Unless life in the Big East becomes untenable (e.g. power conference breakaway)
 
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Hello


We would never think of taking basketball to the Big 12 without full football membership!*

*But what if:
  • B12 basketball alone paid triple what we get with the Big East?
  • The B12 gave us an "associate" football membership where we played a bunch of their teams home/away and had a defined path to get full membership based on success?
  • The B12 invited us as a full member, but at a reduced payout on the football side (maybe with that same defined pat to get a full share)?
  • Villanova, St. John's and maybe more said they're in for the B12 basketball league leaving the Big East wounded? And if the B12 already took some decent (eastern) ACC schools?
I agree that an apples-to-apples switch (same money, different conference) would be a bad decision, but there would definitely be more to consider. 2030 isn't that far off, but a lot can change. UConn should be open to everything and be building relationships every day.
 
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We would never think of taking basketball to the Big 12 without full football membership!*

*But what if:
  • B12 basketball alone paid triple what we get with the Big East?
  • The B12 gave as an "associate" football membership where we plaid a bunch of their teams home/away and had a defined path to get membership based on success?
  • The B12 invited us as a full member, but at a reduced payout on the football side (maybe with that same defined pat to get a full share)?
  • Villanova, St. John's and maybe more said they're in for the B12 basketball league leaving the Big East wounded? And if the B12 already took some decent (eastern) ACC schools?
I agree that an apples-to-apples switch (same money, different conference) would be a bad decision, but there would definitely be more to consider. 2030 isn't that far off, but a lot can change. UConn should be open to everything and be building relationships every day.
If the Big XII said come on down for $10m/yr basketball and $5m/yr football with potential for full shares if we meet performance metrics then we'd do it in a heart beat
 
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We would never think of taking basketball to the Big 12 without full football membership!*

*But what if:
  • B12 basketball alone paid triple what we get with the Big East?
  • The B12 gave as an "associate" football membership where we plaid a bunch of their teams home/away and had a defined path to get membership based on success?
  • The B12 invited us as a full member, but at a reduced payout on the football side (maybe with that same defined pat to get a full share)?
  • Villanova, St. John's and maybe more said they're in for the B12 basketball league leaving the Big East wounded? And if the B12 already took some decent (eastern) ACC schools?
I agree that an apples-to-apples switch (same money, different conference) would be a bad decision, but there would definitely be more to consider. 2030 isn't that far off, but a lot can change. UConn should be open to everything and be building relationships every day.

The Big 12, if it can pay more, will quickly turn the Big East into the Big Least. If we can't get football membership in any way, shape, or form, we should at least work very hard to get a scheduling agreement to beef up the go forward schedule and drive fan interest. That could possibly pave the way for full membership down the road.
 

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If the Big XII said come on down for $10m/yr basketball and $5m/yr football with potential for full shares if we meet performance metrics then we'd do it in a heart beat
But would we if there wasn't a full share opportunity?
 
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But would we if there wasn't a full share opportunity?

We should if it's more money than Big East. Even at that significantly lesser amount, it's a win-win situation. Basketball stays competitive in a competitive league, and football has a shot at surviving.

I guess the one underlying issue are all other non revenue sports and how much they cost to operate and travel in the big12 foot print.
 
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We would never think of taking basketball to the Big 12 without full football membership!*

*But what if:
  • B12 basketball alone paid triple what we get with the Big East?
  • The B12 gave us an "associate" football membership where we played a bunch of their teams home/away and had a defined path to get full membership based on success?
  • The B12 invited us as a full member, but at a reduced payout on the football side (maybe with that same defined pat to get a full share)?
  • Villanova, St. John's and maybe more said they're in for the B12 basketball league leaving the Big East wounded? And if the B12 already took some decent (eastern) ACC schools?
I agree that an apples-to-apples switch (same money, different conference) would be a bad decision, but there would definitely be more to consider. 2030 isn't that far off, but a lot can change. UConn should be open to everything and be building relationships every day.
Yes, there are many moving pieces. UConn has to look out for itself and while the Big East is great today, we can't forget the possibility that other programs might get better offers. The Big East is not deep.
 
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We should if it's more money than Big East. Even at that significantly lesser amount, it's a win-win situation. Basketball stays competitive in a competitive league, and football has a shot at surviving.

I guess the one underlying issue are all other non revenue sports and how much they cost to operate and travel in the big12 foot print.
What teams are you worried about? For sports like swimming track volleyball it is 1 conference championship a year. The rest are regional and national invitationals. The Penn Relays for example. Baseball traveled to Florida and California twice plus Alabama, Nebraska, Indiana and Ohio. Not sure B12 travel would be much different.
 
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But not all of these proposals will come or have come to fruition. From within his own league, there is often pushback to ideas that some describe as innovative and others call extreme. For instance, a plan to add Gonzaga was left on the cutting room floor. And while there is a renewed interest from Yormark in adding UConn, their candidacy remains uncertain. The Big 12’s foray into Mexico, now soccer and baseball, was expected to originally feature basketball and football games (those appear to have been scrapped).
 

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