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What's going on at the moment is a lot of posturing. I personally believe that the key is how many P-12 members jump, nothing else.

Baylor, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Oklahoma St, TCU, Texas Tech, UCF, West Virginia.

Above are all members of the B-12 after every announced move is completed, listed alphabetically. From the day we moved up to FBS, the bolded schools are football teams that our team has beaten, the underlined is the only one who we are winless against.

I really don't see how there can be anywhere near as much noise against us as has been recently reported but among other things, with people wanting to publish anything they hear, any comments at all will get a lot of play.
 
superjohn said:
Maybe stop calling places where people live fly over states and stop calling them backwards and you'll realize despite some of our differences most people are good, interesting, and worth getting to know. You'll often find you have many things in common with them. Basically don't be a condescending AH.
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Could like this post 100 times if i could. UConn Twitter has been pretty much an embarrassment.
 
Urcea said:
It's hard to know what's happening. It seems like Yormark is all in on UConn but might not have the leverage to get it done, based on the recent article. That seems to run contrary to earlier reporting that basically everyone in the Big XII gave him carte blanche and trust the plan. It could be, of course, that they meant "we trust the plan, but Rule 1 still applies".

You would hope, if it came to a vote of extending the offer, you could piece together enough votes who might be in favor of it for natural reasons (Kansas, Cincinnati, WVU) with school leaders who trust in Yormark's plan.

Who the hell knows
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It’s sucks hearing the Big XII directors’ reasoning but to play devils advocate, it does LOOK like UConn doesn’t care about football to SOME degree. We are 1 of maybe 3-4 schools that has their stadium off campus. And it’s not really even that close, it’s 25 miles away. And then that stadium is only 38,000? I get that it’s expandable but it would be by far the smallest in the conference. So while we in Connecticut may understand that the decision to not build a stadium in Storrs was due to logistics, that probably isn’t a satisfactory answer to every other team in the conference who managed to do it. Additionally, what they’re saying about the deficit isn’t that we spend too much money it’s that we run the department poorly. How many times have we bitched about how the state screws us with the XL contract? Or the Rent? Or how the new hockey barn is half the size it should be? It’s not like we’re oblivious to these things either. Not saying I agree with them that we shouldn’t be invited, just that it is understandable to an extent.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Have you seen what they consider pizza to be in Iowa? Heathens.
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Hell, they're too lazy to even make a hamburger or sloppy joe. Nope, it's just "loose meat" sandwiches :eek:
 
Skies2018 said:
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I find the change in titles/wording today amusing…

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uchusky32 said:
Truth, when football was in a good conference it competed and got better.
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This x 100 - of course today our program isn't great and we've had a rough decade since relegation but in the big east we competed and won against our peers.

Football is a different animal but what athletic endeavors has UConn taken that we haven't had success in? We just need the platform.
 
HobokenHusky said:
Some of you are such babies/pessimists. These are all hearsay articles. We are way more in the mix than ever before. Just let it play out
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Nope, we are not babies, and yes, they have our attention for however long it takes to play out. Thing is, we have seen this movie before, and with the writers on strike, we are unable to fathom how the ending could have gotten rewritten.
 
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The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.
 
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Gburyhusky said:
The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.
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I agree. In the past any talk of UConn to a conference by him was negative based on his perception of things at the time. He’s clearly more neutral this time
 
TV power

Sounds like this consulting firm is being heavily used and trusted, and also probably paid well.

Is any consideration being given to the fact that just the hardcore faction knows what FS1 is and where to find it? Probably not
 
king conn said:
TV power

Sounds like this consulting firm is being heavily used and trusted, and also probably paid well.

Is any consideration being given to the fact that just the hardcore faction knows what FS1 is and where to find it? Probably not
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Typically you normalize to account for variables (good or bad). If they aren't, they are fools.
 
Gburyhusky said:
The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.
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I feel like that article was outdated, even though it came out today. Yes, some added media info for Gonzaga with a metric defined by…. The media company representing Gonzaga.

Where is the UConn push? Where are all the nuggets bout UConn. Why are people in Kansas, OK, and TX providing the UConn narrative?

Don’t Warde Manuel this situation and let Gonzaga steal the show. UConn should be everywhere!
 
uconnyankee said:
I feel like that article was outdated, even though it came out today. Yes, some added media info for Gonzaga with a metric defined by…. The media company representing Gonzaga.

Where is the UConn push? Where are all the nuggets bout UConn. Why are people in Kansas, OK, and TX providing the UConn narrative?

Don’t Warde Manuel this situation and let Gonzaga steal the show. UConn should be everywhere!
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Yes, I agree. The article talked a lot about Gonzaga because Gonzaga is using Navigate as their consulting company and the author talked to Navigate people. Who is UConn using?
 
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BlueandOG said:
I disagree. We are too valuable to ignore at this point:
  • Highly academically ranked state flagship public university
  • Record of significant investments in revenue sports
  • Recent major investments in on-campus facilities
  • Reasonably large fan base and state population (29th out of 50)
  • East coast location and NYC market
  • Most successful w and m hoops programs of the last 30 years - both programs trending up
  • Recently nationally ranked programs in hoops, baseball, hockey, field hockey, track and field - all trending up
  • Multiple national titles in soccer, hoops, and field hockey
  • Football program that went to a bowl game with new name brand coach - trending up
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These things are all true. Unfortunately, most of them are things that mean more to other conferences - like the Big Ten - than they would to the Big 12.

Again, UConn's biggest problem here is that the Big 12 is still - despite some positive momentum lately - a conference in survival mode. Perception matters a lot to any business in that category, and the perception is that UConn dilutes the football brand, doesn't fit culturally, and creates more travel headaches.

The Big 12 has no presence in NYC and likely never will. UConn joining may change that marginally, but without a marquee draw like OU or Texas to draw people to the city for potential games at Metlife or Yankee Stadium, the benefits will remain limited.

Minus OU and Texas, it's not a league blessed with a lot of brand appeal or valuable TV markets. Moving forward, any path towards remaining a viable power conference will include prioritizing its strengths and doubling down on them. That means strong football programs, passionate football fanbases, and strong recruiting grounds. Every school they've added to their league has checked at least two of those boxes. UConn offers a lot of potential, but doesn't really check any of them for now.
 
Gburyhusky said:
Like him or not, Tramel's reporting seems well sourced, and suggests to me that we are likely out of it.
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Does it though? He's already finished his position that we are facing resistance to that we "might" face resistance. Trammels poisoning the well.
 
Gburyhusky said:
Like him or not, Tramel's reporting seems well sourced, and suggests to me that we are likely out of it.
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Many on here are taking Tramel's comments as we are likely out. I don't understand how anyone draws that conclusion. Is it not fair to reason that having "concerns" is different from outright objecting? If I recall, the BIG12 leaders put their faith and strong support behind Yormark and his vision. Yormark has made pretty crystal clear his vision of having NYC ... and last I checked no programs outside of an iron-clad GOR come close to UCONN. Yormark has stated programs with football would be for ALL SPORTS. BIG12 members can have reservations or concerns while still moving forward in faith, can they not?

Can someone on here remind us how BIG12 voting works for membership? Is it an all-or-nothing or a certain % majority rule?
 
Forte said:
Many on here are taking Tramel's comments as we are likely out. I don't understand how anyone draws that conclusion. Is it not fair to reason that having "concerns" is different from outright objecting? If I recall, the BIG12 leaders put their faith and strong support behind Yormark and his vision. Yormark has made pretty crystal clear his vision of having NYC ... and last I checked no programs outside of an iron-clad GOR come close to UCONN. Yormark has stated programs with football would be for ALL SPORTS. BIG12 members can have reservations or concerns while still moving forward in faith, can they not?

Can someone on here remind us how BIG12 voting works for membership? Is it an all-or-nothing or a certain % majority rule?
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At the end, all conferences are all or nothing. There is an informal vote before hand (see Texas A&M and Texas).
 
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