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Kadary Richmond Transferring

AntG168 said:
Thank You. Shooters are meaningless with a Kadary/Fatts type guy who can get in the paint. I obviously prefer Kadary over Fatts. But we need a guy like that to get our shooters open looks
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That doesn't matter if there's no shooters to get open looks to
 
YoungSav said:
That doesn't matter if there's no shooters to get open looks to
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Who's saying one or the other? Its clear we need shooters, but some are acting as if we don't need a guard who can get into the paint. As if we've ever won a championship without one
 
Nebraskan18 said:
Cole
Richmond
Jackson
Whaley? Akok
Sanogo

That lineup for 1 can not really shoot. But for 2, is absolutely ELECTRIC
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need hawkins in there for his shooting. it's not a popular opinion but aj hasnt proven he's going to start. the flashes he showed arent enough. kadary had a much better freshman year by any measurement.
 
AntG168 said:
Who's saying one or the other? Its clear we need shooters, but some are acting as if we don't need a guard who can get into the paint. As if we've ever won a championship without one
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Our shooting next year won't be as bad as people make it out to be, whether or not Polley comes back.

And Kadary didn't light it up, but many freshmen have shot 33% and then gone on to improve that number enough to be dangerous.
 
YoungSav said:
That doesn't matter if there's no shooters to get open looks to
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There are shooters. Cole, Gaffney, and Hawkins can all shoot. Akok and Samson might be decent enough from deep as bigs where bigs have to come out on them. Our inability to break teams down from the perimeter so we can get easier shots at the rim and from the perimeter is even more important than getting another shooter or two, though we still need 1 more shooter IMO.
 
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bendm said:
need hawkins in there for his shooting. it's not a popular opinion but aj hasnt proven he's going to start. the flashes he showed arent enough. kadary had a much better freshman year than aj by any measurement.
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It's true. Jackson's injury really hurt him there. He also couldn't keep out of foul trouble, which would have been much easier in a zone that Kadary got to play in.
 
superjohn said:
There are shooters. Cole, Gaffney, and Hawkins can all shoot. Akok and Samson might be decent enough from deep as bigs where bigs have to come out on them. Our inability to break teams down from the perimeter so we can get easier shots at the rim and from the perimeter is even more important than getting another shooter or two, though we still need 1 more shooter IMO.
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Gaffney cannot be the third best shooter on next years team. That'll be a disaster.
 
I’m not commenting on roster need, but...
Just when you thought you had had the full spectrum of joyful experiences as a UConn fan, the prospect of making a final four run with a prized Cuse player driven away by Boeheim comes along... I mean could it get any sweeter
 
Huskyforlife said:
Gaffney cannot be the third best shooter on next years team. That'll be a disaster.
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He shot 36% this year. He upped his percentage 10 points. He can absolutely improve that another few percentage points. This isn't like Martin where his numbers over 3 years have been roughly flat.

Cole shot 38% from 3.

Those two are the equivalent of the 2nd and 3rd best shooters from Creighton. (Ballock & Mitchell)

Hawkins is coming in with a rep for shooting.

You'd obviously like there to be someone—or two—players up in the 40% range, but you can be a very good team with your third best shooter shooting at Gaffney's percentage.
 
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bendm said:
need hawkins in there for his shooting. it's not a popular opinion but aj hasnt proven he's going to start. the flashes he showed arent enough. kadary had a much better freshman year by any measurement.
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Wait? You want us to judge players primarily by what we have seen of them on the court and only secondarily by how highly recruiting surveys thought of them when they were in high school? How outrageous!
 
tzznandrew said:
He shot 36% this year. He upped his percentage 10 points. He can absolutely improve that another few percentage points. This isn't like Martin where his numbers over 3 years have been roughly flat.

Cole shot 38% from 3.

Those two are the equivalent of the 2nd and 3rd best shooters from Creighton. (Ballock & Mitchell)

Hawkins is coming in with a rep for shooting.

You'd obviously like there to be someone—or two—players up in the 40% range, but you can be a very good team with your third best shooter shooting at Gaffney's percentage.
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Good God, if you're going to spoil everyone's strong feelings with facts, why even be on the Boneyard?
 
superjohn said:
There are shooters. Cole, Gaffney, and Hawkins can all shoot. Akok and Samson might be decent enough from deep as bigs where bigs have to come out on them. Our inability to break teams down from the perimeter so we can get easier shots at the rim and from the perimeter is even more important than getting another shooter or two, though we still need 1 more shooter IMO.
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Akok and Samson are questionable at best shooters right now. If Kadary starts then it's likely that only one of Cole/Gaffney/Hawkins starts and plays next to him.
 
YoungSav said:
Akok and Samson are questionable at best shooters right now. If Kadary starts then it's likely that only one of Cole/Gaffney/Hawkins starts and plays next to him.
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and thats a bad thing? Right now, Kadary is the best of that group.
 
tzznandrew said:
He shot 36% this year. He upped his percentage 10 points. He can absolutely improve that another few percentage points. This isn't like Martin where his numbers over 3 years have been roughly flat.

Cole shot 38% from 3.

Those two are the equivalent of the 2nd and 3rd best shooters from Creighton. (Ballock & Mitchell)

Hawkins is coming in with a rep for shooting.

You'd obviously like there to be someone—or two—players up in the 40% range, but you can be a very good team with your third best shooter shooting at Gaffney's percentage.
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The only quibble I have with this post is the reference to Ballock. He slumped down the stretch this season but he's absolutely a better shooter than anyone on this team - he gets picked up across half court. Didn't he shoot something like 45% as a junior?
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The only quibble I have with this post is the reference to Ballock. He slumped down the stretch this season but he's absolutely a better shooter than anyone on this team - he gets picked up across half court. Didn't he shoot something like 45% as a junior?
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^^^^^

Mitch Ballock is maybe the best shooter in the country. The 3's he takes are from 25 feet or else sprinting full speed off a screen. Very different than the 3's our guys are attempting.
 
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AntG168 said:
Idk that he has too. Brooklyn kid(Bouk/Kimani). Major target from us out of highschool, he wanted to come here, and we clearly have a bunch of minutes for him here. I see a bunch of different variations of a 3 guard line up next year and he can play the 1-3. Remember Brendan Adams played loads of minutes earlier in the year. With him and Bouk gone Kadary can slide right in as a major contributor from day 1
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We also have two good freshmen coming in at the 1-3. Add Cole and Gaffney, plus Jackson at his natural position at the 3, and maybe even Martin getting some time there, and there are not a ton of minutes to go around.

That's not to say we shouldn't take him, but if his sticking point was guaranteeing him a starting spot and major minutes, that's going to be a tough sell.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
We also have two good freshmen coming in at the 1-3. Add Cole and Gaffney, plus Jackson at his natural position at the 3, and maybe even Martin getting some time there, and there are not a ton of minutes to go around.

That's not to say we shouldn't take him, but if his sticking point was guaranteeing him a starting spot and major minutes, that's going to be a tough sell.
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We're losing 2 players at the 2 and have 1 incoming freshman 2. We're a bit saturated at the 1, so I hope Kadary doesn't want to play point somewhere. He basically played point at Cuse.. We might be out of luck if that's the case. But he's probably most naturally a playmaking 2 at this level, and that would be an excellent addition to the roster and he would get starting minutes there for us. Cole is quite good spotting up off the ball, so it's a pretty good fit, to be hoenst.
 
djct1999 said:
and thats a bad thing? Right now, Kadary is the best of that group.
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Just saying the shooting would be pretty terrible and we'd run into the same problems where players get doubled on every drive and there isn't enough shooting to punish it.
 
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YoungSav said:
Just saying the shooting would be pretty terrible and we'd run into the same problems where players get doubled on every drive and there isn't enough shooting to punish it.
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But no one is saying add Kadary and nothing else. We'll add shooting outside of Kadary
 
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tzznandrew said:
He shot 36% this year. He upped his percentage 10 points. He can absolutely improve that another few percentage points. This isn't like Martin where his numbers over 3 years have been roughly flat.

Cole shot 38% from 3.

Those two are the equivalent of the 2nd and 3rd best shooters from Creighton. (Ballock & Mitchell)

Hawkins is coming in with a rep for shooting.

You'd obviously like there to be someone—or two—players up in the 40% range, but you can be a very good team with your third best shooter shooting at Gaffney's percentage.
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Even if we assume Gaffney improves as a shooter, you'd also have to assume he gets enough minutes for it to matter. With Cole, Richmond, Jackson, Hawkins ahead of him, and even Diggins stealing some time, how much impact can Gaffney make? We need a shooter who stays on the floor consistently.
 
tzznandrew said:
He shot 36% this year. He upped his percentage 10 points. He can absolutely improve that another few percentage points. This isn't like Martin where his numbers over 3 years have been roughly flat.

Cole shot 38% from 3.

Those two are the equivalent of the 2nd and 3rd best shooters from Creighton. (Ballock & Mitchell)

Hawkins is coming in with a rep for shooting.

You'd obviously like there to be someone—or two—players up in the 40% range, but you can be a very good team with your third best shooter shooting at Gaffney's percentage.
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Also, if Whaley comes back, one of the things he'll be working hard on over the summer is 3pt shooting. I saw enough this year to predict that he'll shoot 34%+ on ~2x more volume.
 
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