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Jalen Carey will announce October 11th

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fleudslipcon said:
Your point is you want players who are hungry huskies and not fat cats.
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Also, another analogy: if you were applying for a job you wouldn't broadcast the fact that you saw it as a stepping stone for your real coveted job that you hoped to land in two years. Nothing wrong in having high aspirations but some things are better left unsaid. Social media spontaneity seems to have made people a lot more egocentric and public about it as well. Have to learn how to watch your speech. Being on a national stage as a high school kid with a lot of talent is a pretty heady thing. Having someone like Ollie as coach could make all the difference in the world in such an important period of transition in life. Wish all the young with these gifts the best in life; they can make a great difference to so many if they make the transition well.
 
IthacaMatt said:
Hard to believe he has starred on 3 Olympic Gold Medal teams, seeing as how he plays no defense. I can't imagine what they see in him.
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Anthony has one NCAA ring, three gold medals and a trip to the Finals with a truly mediocre basketball team. It's not like he hasn't been able to win things when given a chance. I will agree with you that the knocks on him due to playing most of his career with bad basketball teams are unfair.
 
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IthacaMatt said:
Hard to believe he has starred on 3 Olympic Gold Medal teams, seeing as how he plays no defense. I can't imagine what they see in him.
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Meh, for one, it was hyperbole. And two he's dynamic on offense. If you can shoot, you can play in the Olympics. Besides, anyone can be hidden on D to a degree.

If you think Melo's a good defender, I don't know what to tell you. He's bad.

EDIT: see Davey's link above. Numbers, numbers, numbers...
 
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intlzncster said:
Meh, for one, it was hyperbole. And two he's dynamic on offense. If you can shoot, you can play in the Olympics. Besides, anyone can be hidden on D to a degree.

If you think Melo's a good defender, I don't know what to tell you. He's bad.

EDIT: see Davey's link above. Numbers, numbers, numbers...
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Based on the posts about the Kyrie trade, numbers are just evil devil magic that must be ignored for the untrained eye of a random fan.
 
WingU-Conn said:
FIFY
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I feel like chief has a trademark on that "casual fan" line.

I don't need to steal his to make my point.

But fair enough. lol
 
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WingU-Conn said:
I was just making fun of him and his trademark, not your point.
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Oh i got it.

Just had to give credit where credit was due.
 
Is this the time to lock this thread or change it to the Melo thread. Long time between now and Oct 11th and the rails are coming off this one.
 
dennismenace said:
Also, another analogy: if you were applying for a job you wouldn't broadcast the fact that you saw it as a stepping stone for your real coveted job that you hoped to land in two years.
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If it was an unpaid internship you might be open about saying you were taking it to pursue a more lucrative opportunity in the future, because it's obvious to them and you, and concealing it just makes you seem fake.
 
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UCDaveD said:
Stats don't lie.
NBA Metrics 101: The Worst 5 Defenders at Every Position
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Stats do lie, especially defensive stats. Two of those stats are based on plus/minus. What do you think happens to defensive plus/minus numbers if you are average on defense but your backup who plays against other team's backups is a quite good defender? Makes you look lousy. Also, it's well-documented that opposing 3pt% against is a fluky metric. You can really only bother shooters by being close, whether they make it or not comes down almost entirely to chance and the individual sample sizes are too small. See here. That will affect both the differential number and the plus/minus.

I'm not saying Carmelo is a +defender, I'd definitely agree he is not (especially last year).
 
auror said:
If it was an unpaid internship you might be open about saying you were taking it to pursue a more lucrative opportunity in the future, because it's obvious to them and you, and concealing it just makes you seem fake.
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That's one way of looking at it. I am not suggesting that anyone hide the fact that they are ultimately seeking a pro career. Far from it. I don't think all goals need to be set in stone nor is it necessary or advisable to tell the whole world that you think that you can enter the draft in two years and are expecting to. Why does that goal have to be public?
You could find out for instance that your skills, talents and self assessment need to be reevaluated in light of the experience of playing at the next level. Self confidence is wonderful. Script writing where you are going to be in two years for public consumption maybe not.
 
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dennismenace said:
That's one way of looking at it. I am not suggesting that anyone hide the fact that they are ultimately seeking a pro career. Far from it. I don't think all goals need to be set in stone nor is it necessary or advisable to tell the whole world that you think that you can enter the draft in two years and are expecting to. Why does that goal have to be public?
You could find out for instance that your skills, talents and self assessment need to be reevaluated in light of the experience of playing at the next level. Self confidence is wonderful. Script writing where you are going to be in two years for public consumption maybe not.
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Net neutral for me. Positive attitude and goal setting versus cockiness and inaccurate or unrealistic assessment.

Only way to know what's behind statements is to follow these kids actions. Do they enter program and coast or do they work their butts off to get better? And if they coast do they have the talent and skills to make it at the next level and are just buying time because of the NBA format?
 
fleudslipcon said:
Is this the time to lock this thread or change it to the Melo thread. Long time between now and Oct 11th and the rails are coming off this one.
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Look where it has gone in 3 days lmao

Just 3 more weeks!!
 
fleudslipcon said:
Thanks for the update. All in on Matthews?
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Hope so. Then we're out of schollies. But I'm sure the staff knows Adams and larrier are gone after this season. Maybe a transfer (hopefully not)
 
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Zionn said:
NEXT
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This is funny. We're in the final 2. He wont announce until 10/11...and we're already Next'd? I put our chances at like 45%. Sure we're an underdog, but I hope the coaching staff is still trying.
 
KembaStepback said:
This is funny. We're in the final 2. He wont announce until 10/11...and we're already Next'd? I put our chances at like 45%. Sure we're an underdog, but I hope the coaching staff is still trying.
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Miami and Cute have been in to see him every other day this week. Crickets from the staff. Have a feeling it is down to just those two.
 
The only way Zionn is right is if he gave a silent early verbal. Time will tell.
 
if the staff told him that they can get him into the NBA in 2 yrs then I dont want him. He is 6'3" with a 6'6" wingspan. Can't play point, can do everything good but none great. He is not a knock down shooter. Otherwords no NBA type skills yet. I see alot of these peak in HS and never improve much after that. I think he is a Jerome clone with a better J but less intensity on defense and athleticism. He cant drive like Jerome either
 
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