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Melo is still a relatively popular basketball player.
So he's Andre Johnson. Tons of stats, plenty of records, plenty of Pro Bowls, an undeniable talent and offensive force, didn't have a good team; nothing to show for it as a competitorI hate this stuff. People said the same stuff about KG before Boston.
Being on a terrible franchise can sink a guys chances at a long postseason. Especially when he was out west.
I hate this stuff. People said the same stuff about KG before Boston.
Being on a terrible franchise can sink a guys chances at a long postseason. Especially when he was out west.
Melo isnt a bad 1 on 1 defender. He struggles with off the ball defenseMy big knock on Melo is he has yet to play a possession of defense in the NBA. Not a shock his Alma Mater is Syracuse.
Per Diary Bar, focus is on Brewster package.Hearing alot of Carey and cuse talk.
How many Cuse players are named in a NFL QB audible?
Nope.Were you two at that game? With some ladies of course
Per Diary Bar, focus is on Brewster package.
Hearing alot of Carey and cuse talk.
Be careful..Not surprised. Like Ollie says, what's best for the player is best for us. If Jalen doesn't want to be here, we don't want him. 10 toes in or nothing.
Most importantly (I think) Lamb will have made 26.5 million by the time he is 27.
Carey is the consensus #49 recruit in the country. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and compare him to players ranked 40-49 and see how they turned out.
2016 Javin DeLaurier DeRon Davis Nick Ward Cam McGusty Ty Jerome Deriante Jenkins Shamorie Ponds Ike Anigbogu Schnider Herard
2015 Jaquan Lyle Prince Ali Mav Rowan Ray Spalding Elijah Thomas Kerwin Roach Derrick Jones Isaac Humphries Jessie Govan Dejounte Murray
2014 Craig Victor Jordan McLaughlin Leron Black Chris Chiozza Abdul Malik Abu Jaquan Newton Angel Delgado Kaleb Joseph
2013 Tyler Roberson Roddy Peters Nick King Conner Frankamp Derrick Walton Jonathon Williams Xavier Rathan Mayes Moses Kingsley Brandon Austin Christian Wood
2012 Shaq Cleare Cam Biedshied Willie Cauley Stein Omar Calhoun Brice Johnson Adam Woodbury Tyler Lewis Jerami Grant Daniel Ochefu
This should probably provide some perspective on the challenge Carey faces. I didn't feel like typing out 27 more names, but the trend continues from 2011 to 2009 - only Gorgui Deng is in the NBA on a guaranteed contract. The guys in bold are guys that landed in the first round. There are I believe 4 other players who have are on minimum 2nd Round deals - guys like Ochefu, Jones, Grant and Anigbogu, who just got drafted in round 2. You may notice that all these guys are either bigs or freak athletes.
If Carey wants to make the NBA he needs to work unbelievably hard year round and realize that he would be incredibly fortunate to land in the NBA after 4 years, let alone 2.
So he's Andre Johnson. Tons of stats, plenty of records, plenty of Pro Bowls, an undeniable talent and offensive force, didn't have a good team; nothing to show for it as a competitor
I would think a program like Cuse who purports to be above UConn would have more to boast about NBA-wise than Andre Johnson and little else.
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Your point is you want players who are hungry huskies and not fat cats.Great post. I have no problem with kids making it their goal to get to the NBA after one or two years. That's kind of supposed to be the thought process when you're a competitor. I don't even have a problem if you want to go to Europe or the D-League straight out of high school or before you get your degree. I may not like it as a college basketball fan, but people have to pay the bills somehow.
The issue is not with the recruit itself but rather the people who plant these seeds of delusion in their head. Seemingly every prospect who sniffs the top 100 these days is presumed to be sitting on a winning lottery ticket and it is simply not a reasonable expectation. This dissonance becomes worse when coaches have to cater to it in their recruiting pitches, because it creates a contentious climate from day one where player interest often intersects with team interest. Either the dude that was promised playing time is getting screwed or the kid who isn't playing because of the dude that was promised playing time is getting a raw deal.
I don't really care about the live stream. It was a 17-year-old saying something stupid or at the very least not choosing his words carefully. That happens and it is going to happen again. What it does do is re-enforce the notion that the NBA is somehow the only consideration these matters, and more dangerously, its operative motif is to portray the program as the only entity capable of screwing things up. I'm not sure I have any overarching point here aside from the fact that I hate the stigmatization of three and four year players. It doesn't have to be your goal to be here four years, but it should be established as the baseline for how careers normally go. The thought process should be, "I want to go somewhere that maximizes my chances of reaching my dreams, but if Ryan Boatright played here for four years then there is sure as hell nothing wrong with me doing the same."
My big knock on Melo is he has yet to play a possession of defense in the NBA. Not a shock his Alma Mater is Syracuse.
Also, another analogy: if you were applying for a job you wouldn't broadcast the fact that you saw it as a stepping stone for your real coveted job that you hoped to land in two years. Nothing wrong in having high aspirations but some things are better left unsaid. Social media spontaneity seems to have made people a lot more egocentric and public about it as well. Have to learn how to watch your speech. Being on a national stage as a high school kid with a lot of talent is a pretty heady thing. Having someone like Ollie as coach could make all the difference in the world in such an important period of transition in life. Wish all the young with these gifts the best in life; they can make a great difference to so many if they make the transition well.Your point is you want players who are hungry huskies and not fat cats.
Hard to believe he has starred on 3 Olympic Gold Medal teams, seeing as how he plays no defense. I can't imagine what they see in him.