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[buggsy]

Rutgers' fans have such a deep-seated anger. Look at Buggsy...so angry, so bitter.

More proof that abject failure is corrosive for the soul.

It's Labor Day weekend! Chillax!

Head out on the deck, crack open a beer and let your mind drift back to Rutgers' glory days....then crack open a dozen more beers and hope to forget that they've never had any.

Hugs.

Hysterical, after a post like that (and every other post you make about Rutgers) that you talk about me being ANGRY.

Fishy, if you weren't so angry, you wouldn't spend so much time bashing the school.

The irony of you calling me bitter, after all your posts bashing Rutgers because we were chosen by the Big Ten and you weren't. Priceless.

Now I'll go crack open a dozen beers, because we are going to be in the Big Ten next year. Our glory days begin next year, while your school will be wallowing in a pool of .

 

[UConn990411]

Hysterical, after a post like that (and every other post you make about Rutgers) that you talk about me being ANGRY.

Fishy, if you weren't so angry, you wouldn't spend so much time bashing the school.

The irony of you calling me bitter, after all your posts bashing Rutgers because we were chosen by the Big Ten and you weren't. Priceless.

Now I'll go crack open a dozen beers, because we are going to be in the Big Ten next year. Our glory days begin next year, while your school will be wallowing in a pool of .

No, you'll be cracking open a beer (or 10) so that you'll be able to tolerate sleeping with your overweight, self-tanned wife.

 

[Fishy]

More anger. I don't begrudge Rutgers' Big Ten invite, I just enjoy poking the bear. (Or, in this case, the kitten.)

Anywho, we are gonna hug this out. I'm a healer, bugs.

Let's reminisce together - it's obviously a bit of role play since I'm not a Rutgers' fan, but I'm a born nurturer so it shouldn't be a problem. You give me that big Rutgers' win, the one you guys talk about when you all get together and then we'll just both sit here in fond reflection of that big day. You'll feel better.

Now...when was it?

 

[Vuce]

Let's reminisce together - it's obviously a bit of role play since I'm not a Rutgers' fan, but I'm a born nurturer so it shouldn't be a problem. You give me that big Rutgers' win, the one you guys talk about when you all get together and then we'll just both sit here in fond reflection of that big day. You'll feel better.

Now...when was it?

Ok buggsy don't avoid the question. Answer fishy's query seriously. I can't wait to hear this

 

[Fishy]

I only formally went to the 9th grade and went into the Corps during the VN War(conflict) and stayed in for 8 years,got my GED and scored 1410 on my SAT before going to CC and receiving my associates degree at 31!Does that answer your question?Never spent a second at RU...just a matter of state pride with me!

You're all right, Nicky.

Completely out of your mind in a lot of ways, but perfectly all right in the ways that matter.

 

[IMind]

I think the whole NYC market is overstated when it comes to Rutgers. They didn't get into the B1G because of the NYC market. They got into the B1G because a crapload of people live in New Jersey... that's it.

 

[SubbaBub]

I think the whole NYC market is overstated when it comes to Rutgers. They didn't get into the B1G because of the NYC market. They got into the B1G because a crapload of people live in New Jersey... that's it.

Tv sets and recruiting grounds got RU and MD into the B1G. NYC tv sets were factored into the equation, just as they will be for us, if...

 

[buggsy]

Ok buggsy don't avoid the question. Answer fishy's query seriously. I can't wait to hear this

Not avoiding the question.

Are you talking about our big win against 3rd ranked Louisville in 2006, or 2nd ranked South Florida in 2007?

Maybe it was our win over 19th ranked and highly favorite Tennessee in 1979, when we pulled off the 13-7 shocker. That was a big one.

Or maybe it was in 1988 when we beat 17th ranked Michigan State on the road. That was a big one.

No. I'll go with our upset win over 15th ranked and previously unbeaten Penn State that same year. My freshman year. 21-16 over Joe Paterno, the pedophile enabler.

That was the biggest game I can think of. That's the one my friends and I talk about, since we were 28 point underdogs, and it happened

See, not dodging anything. You wanted it, you got it.

What's your biggest win, since you were so curious?

 

[Vuce]

Yawn - those are pretty lame.

We talk about Our 1999 win over Duke to win the National Championship in basketball. Then we talk about our Final Four win in 2004 over Duke that was basically the championship game (we rolled Ga Tech in the final). We talk about an amazing 11 game run in 2011 to win the Big East Tourney with 5 wins in 5 days follwed by a great 6 game run to win the whole she bang. Not to mention MANY big Postseason Big East Tourney classics....too many to go thru here.

Football? I guess it's the win over USF to send us to the BCS game in only our 10th year of 1-A (at the time) football. Granted no one really but Uconn fans really remembers that win but then again no one outside of Rutgers fans remember ANY of the regular season games you brought up. Basically you don't have any all time great classic wins (feel free to include hoops in your next post) Thanks for humoring us here.

 

[btstimpy]

You're still missing the point.

The B1G doesn't care how many fans Rutgers delivers to the conference (which, for all intents and purposes, is zero). The B1G cares that Rutgers delivers the conference to the NYC market.

Every OSU, Michigan, Penn St. and Michigan St. game will be broadcasted in the tristate area starting next season. The B1G is essentially just using Rutgers as a medium to market it's big names.

Correct. And the Big Ten has basically said this. Secondarily there may be some Federally Granted Research that Rutgers is doing that some of the Big Ten schools want to collaborate with. Rutgers is AAU.

Rutgers has not been relevant in college athletics in at least half a century. The Big Ten isn't stupid. They know this. All you have to do is listen to Mike Francessa, and it is obvious that there is zero buzz about Rutgers in the New York City market. He takes callers every weekday on the Radio about the NYC sports scene, and he doesn't get enough about Rutgers to get a blip.

Geographically Rutgers gets the Big Ten into that geographic area, and the Big Ten is hoping to leverage that geographic access to get their network on television to watch their traditional powers. They have no other expectation from Rutgers athletics. Rutgers fans may think differently. The Big Ten does not.

UConn would at least add to Big Ten Basketball, but the AAU thing is apparently very important to the Big Ten.

We've debated this for a couple of months now. With these numbers from TV viewers, and they will continue, you can see with the documented evidence. What will be interesting is how Michigan and Ohio State numbers are affected going forward.

 

[Fishy]

lol.

"...previously unbeaten Penn State."

Holy mother of mercy...a century playing football and the top of their mountain is that magical day when they managed to beat a 2-0 Penn State team. (Of course, five other teams managed to beat PSU that year....turns out they, like Rutgers, finished 5-6.)

That is freaking adorable.

 

[TRest]

Not avoiding the question.

Are you talking about our big win against 3rd ranked Louisville in 2006, or 2nd ranked South Florida in 2007?

Maybe it was our win over 19th ranked and highly favorite Tennessee in 1979, when we pulled off the 13-7 shocker. That was a big one.

Or maybe it was in 1988 when we beat 17th ranked Michigan State on the road. That was a big one.

No. I'll go with our upset win over 15th ranked and previously unbeaten Penn State that same year. My freshman year. 21-16 over Joe Paterno, the pedophile enabler.

That was the biggest game I can think of. That's the one my friends and I talk about, since we were 28 point underdogs, and it happened

See, not dodging anything. You wanted it, you got it.

What's your biggest win, since you were so curious?

Regular season games where you pull the upset? Big whoop. And about once a decade. If you don't know how underwhelming that is, I guess you really are a Rutgers fan.

 

[TRest]

lol.

"...previously unbeaten Penn State."

Holy mother of mercy...a century playing football and the top of their mountain is that magical day when they managed to beat a 2-0 Penn State team. (Of course, five other teams managed to beat PSU that year....turns out they, like Rutgers, finished 5-6.)

That is freaking adorable.

I did not know that, it's worse than BC's big Cotton bowl victory over a 7-6 Houston team.

 

[huskymedic]

lol.

"...previously unbeaten Penn State."

 

[huskymedic]

 

[NickyNewark]

Just a 9th grade education? YOU'RE the typical Rutgers student. No shame in being below average. That describes NJ and its residents.

The only thing real about you is the dog in your handle and yes here your a road Dog!With every post we get a bigger peek behind your curtain!

 

[NickyNewark]

You're all right, Nicky.

Completely out of your mind in a lot of ways, but perfectly all right in the ways that matter.

Coming from you Fishy I'll take that as a compliment!Aren't we all a little "out of our minds"?

 

[BCINGYA]

I did not know that, it's worse than BC's big Cotton bowl victory over a 7-6 Houston team.

LOL .......At least get your facts correct when your attempting to zing B.C. - Boston College 8-2 vs Houston 7-3 in the 1985 Cotton Bowl Classic - B.C. 45 Houston 28- Final Records; B.C. 9-2 Houston 7-4. Also for the record Houston represented the South Western Conference that year, which consisted of teams such as Texas, Texas A.M., Arkansas etc...so in short Houston was a very good quality opponent from a great conference. Your comparison holds no water, but I think you know that.
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[FfldCntyFan]

LOL .......At least get your facts correct when your attempting to zing B.C. - Boston College 8-2 vs Houston 7-3 in the 1985 Cotton Bowl Classic - B.C. 45 Houston 28- Final Records; B.C. 9-2 Houston 7-4. Also for the record Houston represented the South Western Conference that year, which consisted of teams such as Texas, Texas A.M., Arkansas etc...so in short Houston was a very good quality opponent from a great conference. Your comparison holds no water, but I think you know that.
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How many SWC football teams were on probation that season?

 

[BCINGYA]

How many SWC football teams were on probation that season?

Houston and SMU finished as reg season co champs at 6-2. Houston won the tie breaker via its 29-20 head to head victory over SMU. Thus the bowl lineup ended as such.

1. Cotton Bowl B.C. vs. Houston -Jan 1st 85
2. Aloha Bowl SMU -Dec 84
3. Freedom Bowl Texas - Dec 84
4. Bluebonnet Bowl TCU - Dec 84
5. Liberty Arkansas - Dec 84

No team was disqualified from bowl participation due to NCAA probation that season. Houston beat #3 Texas team and a top ten SMU team. Seems pretty legit to me.

 

[buggsy]

lol.

"...previously unbeaten Penn State."

Holy mother of mercy...a century playing football and the top of their mountain is that magical day when they managed to beat a 2-0 Penn State team. (Of course, five other teams managed to beat PSU that year....turns out they, like Rutgers, finished 5-6.)

That is freaking adorable.

It was a win against a nationally prominent, and nationally ranked team (at the time) that has a lopsided history of wins over us.

The last time you beat a nationally ranked team that has a history of OWNING you over the years, may have been a few years ago when you beat us... when we were ranked 24th.

Now THAT is adorable.

 

[TRest]

Houston and SMU finished as reg season co champs at 6-2. Houston won the tie breaker via its 29-20 head to head victory over SMU. Thus the bowl lineup ended as such.

1. Cotton Bowl B.C. vs. Houston -Jan 1st 85
2. Aloha Bowl SMU -Dec 84
3. Freedom Bowl Texas - Dec 84
4. Bluebonnet Bowl TCU - Dec 84
5. Liberty Arkansas - Dec 84

No team was disqualified from bowl participation due to NCAA probation that season. Houston beat #3 Texas team and a top ten SMU team. Seems pretty legit to me.

Just hyperbole on my part, I was a fan of that BC team, but Houston was no great shakes. Here's the final AP rankings for 1984:

1984
1. Brigham Young
2. Washington
3. Florida
4. Nebraska
5. Boston College
6. Oklahoma
7. Oklahoma State
8. SMU
9. UCLA
10. USC
11. South Carolina
12. Maryland
13. Ohio State
14. Auburn
15. Louisiana State
16. Iowa
17. Florida State
18. Miami (Fla.)
19. Kentucky
20. Virginia

Looks like SMU was the only team from the SWC that finished in the top 20. BE beat the equivalent of a BE champ that year. The point is, Rutgers sucks.

 

[buggsy]

Regular season games where you pull the upset? Big whoop. And about once a decade. If you don't know how underwhelming that is, I guess you really are a Rutgers fan.

Please, with your putdowns of Rutgers football. Are UCONN fans ALL too stupid to realizes how dumb they look mocking Rutgers Football, when UCONN football is one of the top 10 worst football programs of all-time...with a historic losing percentage?

At least we've won more games than losing.

UCONN football has been a 100 year running joke of losing.....including right now getting their asses handed to them by a D1aa program.

UCONN football has had more losses than wins, and more losing seasons then winning (Something RU has not had) and you mock someone who at least knows how to win more than lose?

Sheer stupidity.

 

[Road Dog]

Please, with your putdowns of Rutgers football. Are UCONN fans ALL too stupid to realizes how dumb they look mocking Rutgers Football, when UCONN football is one of the top 10 worst football programs of all-time...with a historic losing percentage?

At least we've won more games than losing.

UCONN football has been a 100 year running joke of losing.....including right now getting their asses handed to them by a D1aa program.

UCONN football has had more losses than wins, and more losing seasons then winning (Something RU has not had) and you mock someone who at least knows how to win more than lose?

Sheer stupidity.

Rutgers sports are the perpetual leech of any conference they are in. Rutgers never contributed a penny to the old Big East but leeched payments from the league, stealing money from other programs ever since they joined. They did the same in the new Big East. They are doing the same in the AAC. And they will do the same in the B1G.

 

[BCINGYA]

Just hyperbole on my part, I was a fan of that BC team, but Houston was no great shakes. Here's the final AP rankings for 1984:

1984
1. Brigham Young
2. Washington
3. Florida
4. Nebraska
5. Boston College
6. Oklahoma
7. Oklahoma State
8. SMU
9. UCLA
10. USC
11. South Carolina
12. Maryland
13. Ohio State
14. Auburn
15. Louisiana State
16. Iowa
17. Florida State
18. Miami (Fla.)
19. Kentucky
20. Virginia

Looks like SMU was the only team from the SWC that finished in the top 20. BE beat the equivalent of a BE champ that year. The point is, Rutgers sucks.

Just hyperbole on my part, I was a fan of that BC team, but Houston was no great shakes. Here's the final AP rankings for 1984:

1984
1. Brigham Young
2. Washington
3. Florida
4. Nebraska
5. Boston College
6. Oklahoma
7. Oklahoma State
8. SMU
9. UCLA
10. USC
11. South Carolina
12. Maryland
13. Ohio State
14. Auburn
15. Louisiana State
16. Iowa
17. Florida State
18. Miami (Fla.)
19. Kentucky
20. Virginia

Looks like SMU was the only team from the SWC that finished in the top 20. BE beat the equivalent of a BE champ that year. The point is, Rutgers sucks.

Houston won at SMU (10-2 #8) beat Texas ranked #3 at the midpoint and lets face it the SWC was still a very good quality football conference overall. Houston earned its spot, they were no pushovers as a bowl opponent as the prior poster alluded to. I am sure you will agree U Conn's 8-4 record and fiesta bowl appearance was was well earned and deserved, but Houston's was not? It does not diminish the accomplishment of the winning team, and no one thought less of Oklahoma because of their opponent's profile. If you feel U Conn was a very good team and deserving of it's bowl slot that year,... regardless of its record heading into the Fiesta Bowl,..... then how is it different than Houston's situation? Sounds like a double standard and cherry picking to me. Thats all I am going to say on the matter, just wanted to voice my opinion.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

UCONN football has been a 100 year running joke of losing.....including right now getting their asses handed to them by a D1aa program.

Yeah, UConn’s loss to Towson was embarrassing and painful with respect to Conference Realignment; but, some if the pain is diluted by the fact that: E Washington beat #25 Oregon State, ND State upset defending XII champ K State, McNeese St crushed S Florida (impact on their DR hopes?), Easter Illinois owned Iowa State, S Utah edged S Alabama and, of course, Towson handled UConn. Of course, RU should not throw stones living in a glass house.

Let’s see, since 2000 according to Rutgers’s website, RU football has lost the following:

· Loses to D-1A/FC teams or teams in transition from to D-1/FBS: Lost to UConn 19 to 20 in 2001; lost to Villanova 19 to 37 in 2002, lost to New Hampshire 24 to 35 in 2004.

· Losses to BCS associated conference teams (per 2014): lost to Buffalo 11 to 34 in 2002, lost to Tulane 14 to 17 in 2010, lost to Kent State 23 to 35 in 2012.

I am not saying that UConn is any better. Rutgers has history, a rich local recruiting market, and proximity to NYC on its side, throw in AAU status and that is why Rutgers is in the B1G and UConn is not. Note that on field performance is not the reason that Rutgers in in the B1G. Overall, RU would be better off with a local, NCY oriented rival in the B1G like UConn where each flagship school is within driving distance of each other. That would drive-up fan interest, drive ticket sales, get TV attention, and push each school to get better.

 

[upstater]

Houston won at SMU (10-2 #8) beat Texas ranked #3 at the midpoint and lets face it the SWC was still a very good quality football conference overall. Houston earned its spot, they were no pushovers as a bowl opponent as the prior poster alluded to. I am sure you will agree U Conn's 8-4 record and fiesta bowl appearance was was well earned and deserved, but Houston's was not? It does not diminish the accomplishment of the winning team, and no one thought less of Oklahoma because of their opponent's profile. If you feel U Conn was a very good team and deserving of it's bowl slot that year,... regardless of its record heading into the Fiesta Bowl,..... then how is it different than Houston's situation? Sounds like a double standard and cherry picking to me. Thats all I am going to say on the matter, just wanted to voice my opinion.

I don't think anyone here thought that UConn was anything other than what it was that year. We were happy to get into a BCS game. But it shouldn't be forgotten that we had a pretty bad QB and they got beat by Temple. Heck, UConn was 3-4 at one point before they finished the season strong. They were overmatched by an Oklahoma team that had come off 4 straight bowl losses, many of them to lesser teams. If Oklahoma had actually lost to UConn in that game, Stoops 3rd loss in a row to a team from a conference without a relationship with a bigtime bowl, his career would have been in danger.

 

[upstater]

The problem with UConn's loss to Towson is that we are right now in the middle of the meltdown and haven't begun clawing out of it. There is no telling how this is going to go.

I don't believe Uconn will be hurting recruiting wise since UConn's recruiting profile is still more or less what it always was. Much more concerned about the salaries the AD can pay coaches.

 

[dayooper]

Yeah, UConn’s loss to Towson was embarrassing and painful with respect to Conference Realignment; but, some if the pain is diluted by the fact that: E Washington beat #25 Oregon State, ND State upset defending XII champ K State, McNeese St crushed S Florida (impact on their DR hopes?), Easter Illinois owned Iowa State, S Utah edged S Alabama and, of course, Towson handled UConn. Of course, RU should not throw stones living in a glass house.

Let’s see, since 2000 according to Rutgers’s website, RU football has lost the following:

· Loses to D-1A/FC teams or teams in transition from to D-1/FBS: Lost to UConn 19 to 20 in 2001; lost to Villanova 19 to 37 in 2002, lost to New Hampshire 24 to 35 in 2004.

· Losses to BCS associated conference teams (per 2014): lost to Buffalo 11 to 34 in 2002, lost to Tulane 14 to 17 in 2010, lost to Kent State 23 to 35 in 2012.

I am not saying that UConn is any better. Rutgers has history, a rich local recruiting market, and proximity to NYC on its side, throw in AAU status and that is why Rutgers is in the B1G and UConn is not. Note that on field performance is not the reason that Rutgers in in the B1G. Overall, RU would be better off with a local, NCY oriented rival in the B1G like UConn where each flagship school is within driving distance of each other. That would drive-up fan interest, drive ticket sales, get TV attention, and push each school to get better.

What's going to make or break Rutgers will be how they perform in the Big 10 Eastern Division while playing Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State every year. If they can hold their own and out perform the likes of Indiana, Maryland and Michigan State, they will be fine. If not, well . . . use your imagination.

I will say this about Rutgers, they are currently recruiting well. They are ranked 3rd in Big10 behind Michigan and OSU. Now their class is about full so there isn't much room for growth, but they have several four star recruits in their class. I would say they are using entrance into the Big 10 well, better than UMD is, IMO.

 

[BCINGYA]

I don't think anyone here thought that UConn was anything other than what it was that year. We were happy to get into a BCS game. But it shouldn't be forgotten that we had a pretty bad QB and they got beat by Temple. Heck, UConn was 3-4 at one point before they finished the season strong. They were overmatched by an Oklahoma team that had come off 4 straight bowl losses, many of them to lesser teams. If Oklahoma had actually lost to UConn in that game, Stoops 3rd loss in a row to a team from a conference without a relationship with a bigtime bowl, his career would have been in danger.

U Conn EARNED the right to play, just as Houston did. Oklahoma beat U Conn as it was supposed to, just as B.C. beat Houston as it was supposed to. My point it does not make the victory any less impressive, they did what they were supposed to do in a big way.