Boosters can technically pay athletes as of July 1

[Guapo]

So many melodramatics here...

you’ll see the players run out at Gampel wearing UConn jerseys playing against Villanova and all of this concern trolling y’all are doing about the future of UConn - and the future college sports itself - will fall by the wayside.

And if not - if the fact the athletes are now able to capitalize in some way from a sport that so many others have capitalized on, makes you soooo angry that you can’t watch - than, please, get out of the new road

 

[tzznandrew]

I just don't see how this is going to change recruiting all that much. The schools that drop bags are still going to drop bags.

The top 3 classes were:

Kentucky
UNC
Duke

Kentucky and Duke missed the NCAA and an 8-seed UNC was bounced in the first round.

We'll see more changes when kids get to campus, though, with some men and women making money through being influencers on instagram and other paid online avenues, some perhaps subscription based.

 

[upstater]

Then why are you here?

I've been here since the 1990s. Out of habit. But it was the first time I checked in in 2 weeks. I'll be checking out soon actually.

Here's a better question: why are you here? What the hell do you think you're watching? A Gatorade league team would blow these guys out of the water. It's frankly pathetic how you're spending your time.

 

[Guapo]

It's frankly pathetic how you're spending your time.

Hmm

 

[upstater]

So many melodramatics here...

you’ll see the players run out at Gampel wearing UConn jerseys playing against Villanova and all of this concern trolling y’all are doing about the future of UConn - and the future college sports itself - will fall by the wayside.

And if not - if the fact the athletes are now able to capitalize in some way from a sport that so many others have capitalized on, makes you soooo angry that you can’t watch - than, please, get out of the new road

You're totally deluding yourself. Stop it with the sharing of the profit nonsense. This is a totally subsidized farce. You're lying to yourself thinking otherwise.

The level of delusion here is pathetic.

 

[Guapo]

You're totally deluding yourself. Stop it with the sharing of the profit nonsense. This is a totally subsidized farce. You're lying to yourself thinking otherwise.

The level of delusion here is pathetic.

It’s not a “sharing in the profits” argument.

How do you look at the advertisers, the TV contracts, the endorsement deals for coaches, the ticket prices etc etc. and not think the entire system is grotesque?

 

[Guapo]

I've been here since the 1990s. Out of habit. But it was the first time I checked in in 2 weeks. I'll be checking out soon actually.

Here's a better question: why are you here? What the hell do you think you're watching? A Gatorade league team would blow these guys out of the water. It's frankly pathetic how you're spending your time.

Please take your own advice and just leave.

 

[navery12]

I've been here since the 1990s. Out of habit. But it was the first time I checked in in 2 weeks. I'll be checking out soon actually.

Here's a better question: why are you here? What the hell do you think you're watching? A Gatorade league team would blow these guys out of the water. It's frankly pathetic how you're spending your time.

This is a bad look for a good poster on your way out, but you do you

 

[Psolo12]

I've been here since the 1990s. Out of habit. But it was the first time I checked in in 2 weeks. I'll be checking out soon actually.

Here's a better question: why are you here? What the hell do you think you're watching? A Gatorade league team would blow these guys out of the water. It's frankly pathetic how you're spending your time.

I'm watching the college basketball team that I grew up loving and have watched passionately since I was in middle school. Even if none of them ended up playing professionally I would cheer them on and bleed blue. Good riddance.

 

[navery12]

 

[BGesus4]

Oh wow, you’re saying Duke, UNC or Kentucky is going to end with a concentration of top talent? What a brave new world. So scary!

Yeah I think this is the point. There isn’t anything close to a level playing field right now, obviously, due to the complete inability to regulate all the back door deals. At least now it will be a little more out in the open and potentially regulateable. … and now it will actually cost something closer to market value for recruits.

before it was basically access to shoe company support/money and willingness of assistants to commit wire fraud and you had a stranglehold on recruiting

 

[HuskyHawk]

His analogy is horrendously bad anyway. Where’s the justice in students shelling out $1k a year to support this system. The argument about an unjust system is totally disingenuous because people are arguing that players should get paid market value and yet the market is subsidized by their fellow classmates

I’d love to see the farce called for what it is so that there is no more subsidy or university outlay so that the players can indeed earn their true market value

Except for my own selfish enjoyment of it, from a pure policy perspective, college sports such as they are shouldn't exist. The smarter approach would be to just license university names and logos to what are essentially minor league pro teams. Let those teams operate at whatever profit or loss they achieve independent of the school.

 

[HooperScooper]

There is immense potential for the elite guys to profit off their name, image and likeness in the NCAA, and not just in the short term.

When a player opts for the collegiate pathway, as we have seen, they are given an opportunity to market and build a brand with their on-court performance that is greater than anywhere else in the world.

Playing on national television night-in and night-out, receiving national recognition and building a bond with their respective fanbases will not just pay off in the short term but also in the long term as their respective fanbases continue following them throughout their entire career - something few other opportunities can offer.

What does the change to NIL mean for the recruiting landscape?

On Wednesday, the NCAA made it official when they announced that student-athletes will now be able to profit off their name, image and likeness, beginning Thursday, July 1st.

247sports.com

 

[CTisballers]

Now would that help or hurt UConn recruiting???

 

[CL82]

You're totally deluding yourself. Stop it with the sharing of the profit nonsense. This is a totally subsidized farce. You're lying to yourself thinking otherwise.

The level of delusion here is pathetic.

Thankfully you are here to bring us all back to reality. Thank you upstater for all that you do and well, just for being you.

 

[HuskyHawk]

On a lighter note, head over to Twitter or Instagram and look up #barstoolathlete Dave Portnoy has some kind of marketing thing going. Dave Portnoy Announces Barstool Athletics Inc. – Branded Sports (thebrandedsports.com)

 

[Dogdeacon]

There is immense potential for the elite guys to profit off their name, image and likeness in the NCAA, and not just in the short term.

When a player opts for the collegiate pathway, as we have seen, they are given an opportunity to market and build a brand with their on-court performance that is greater than anywhere else in the world.

Playing on national television night-in and night-out, receiving national recognition and building a bond with their respective fanbases will not just pay off in the short term but also in the long term as their respective fanbases continue following them throughout their entire career - something few other opportunities can offer.

What does the change to NIL mean for the recruiting landscape?

On Wednesday, the NCAA made it official when they announced that student-athletes will now be able to profit off their name, image and likeness, beginning Thursday, July 1st.

247sports.com

This is a thoughtful take. I'd add that it is pretty common that the #1 guy coming out of high school doesn't end up as the top draft pick, sometimes that guy never gets the huge payday. Why not let him cash in when his stocks at the apex?

I also think about how the coach sneaker contracts initially turbo-charged the salaries of coaches and then the revenues and multi-million dollar coaching salaries followed. Now those salaries might stick, but Nike ain't paying Jim Boeheim 3MM per year. Maybe they decide to spread 100K across the top 5 guys and get as much bang for their buck. Jon Sheyer is never getting the same sneaker deal that Coach K milked.

It is a positive that the top college players can monetize their success NOW. Historical players like Morrison or Jimmer Freddette who were huge college guys but always had limited pro upside get to make hay while they can. Guys like Aaron Craft might be even more inclined to stay in college for 6 years.

Likewise UConn women's bball is arguably MORE popular than the WNBA. I don't know what Megan Stewart makes on endorsements right now, maybe she was MORE marketable while at UConn.

Tons of college players getting to seize that moment is a huge equitable win, especially for those that peak in skill or popularity while in college.

 

[Waquoit]

In the near term, are there 64 athletic departments more attractive than UConn?

 

[Dogdeacon]

@tzznandrew @polycom Don is college sports amateur facade collapsing, Pete are the nerds whining about it and Bert (should be) us rational fans

Awesome, thanks for posting this! Amazing to re-watch, at the time I thought it was a death blow (as exposure of same ruse later was to his marriage) and Don would be fired, humiliated and it'd be about him rebuilding. Not quite, yes it was a show about people, relationships and the world, but thru the lens of advertising where perception is reality.

Bert's speech then about the man in the room means college sports is what it currently is. Don's facade and the amateur facade will endure b/c we want it to, it makes everyone happy and makes money. We actually get to keep pretending as long as that's profitable. Just don't tell our wives!

 

[bendm]

In the near term, are there 64 athletic departments more attractive than UConn?

no but only 36 or 37 receive at large bids. we just busted the tourney slump tho arent we trying to sign 5* recruits and make deep tourney runs now? we have to be a top 10 department to do that

 

[BPT2Storrs]

Maybe I’m not understanding all of this correctly but how will this benefit any athletes aside from the 5* recruits and a few athletes that have already have a strong social media presence? Why as a company would I pay a college athlete with little to no name recognition to promote my business, service or product line? Outside of a business using an athlete to promote and advertise how will these athletes be paid? By boosters? Boosters only mess with the top athletes, therefore, as I mentioned above only a few will benefit. Am I missing other opportunities how these players will be paid?

How many NCAA athletes are there? How many can actually capitalize on their “name, image and likeness”? For every Michael Jordan out there, how many Scott Burrell’s do we have? All this will do is allow some athletes to be paid a grip, a few others will make some money, and the rest will be left with nothing. I think it could lead to rifts in college sports with certain players on team sports reaping benefits while others who put in just as much work getting little to nothing at all.

I believe the intentions are good but I don’t think the concept it fully developed, and I don’t think this is something you can haphazardly roll out.

 

[navery12]

Maybe I’m not understanding all of this correctly but how will this benefit any athletes aside from the 5* recruits and a few athletes that have already have a strong social media presence? Why as a company would I pay a college athlete with little to no name recognition to promote my business, service or product line? Outside of a business using an athlete to promote and advertise how will these athletes be paid? By boosters? Boosters only mess with the top athletes, therefore, as I mentioned above only a few will benefit. Am I missing other opportunities how these players will be paid?

How many NCAA athletes are there? How many can actually capitalize on their “name, image and likeness”? For every Michael Jordan out there, how many Scott Burrell’s do we have? All this will do is allow some athletes to be paid a grip, a few others will make some money, and the rest will be left with nothing. I think it could lead to rifts in college sports with certain players on team sports reaping benefits while others who put in just as much work getting little to nothing at all.

I believe the intentions are good but I don’t think the concept it fully developed, and I don’t think this is something you can haphazardly roll out.

It's not just about athletes being paid as marketing for a business, student athletes who can play the guitar can book a gig at a bar and get paid. Or a softball/baseball player can give hitting lessons over the summer and charge for it. A lot of the focus is obviously on the big money/recruiting effects, but this extends across a lot of student athletes

 

[Dogdeacon]

It's not just about athletes being paid as marketing for a business, student athletes who can play the guitar can book a gig at a bar and get paid. Or a softball/baseball player can give hitting lessons over the summer and charge for it. A lot of the focus is obviously on the big money/recruiting effects, but this extends across a lot of student athletes

Also if you remember being a college student even $20-50 in your pocket is a big deal. Fringe guys being able to make a few hundred dollars is huge. Back in the day a freshman, the late great Cliff Robinson did not have $3 to contribute for a floor party. Freshman Cliff couldn’t have made thousands, but maybe Ted’s would have paid him $40/week to sponsor darts tournaments and he wouldn’t have had to ask to come to a party for free.

 

[Figurehead]

It is already making a difference, Transfer point guard Endyia Rogers was down to Arizona and Oregon aka Nike U.

Rogers: "We'll be the best backcourt in the country"

USC transfer Endyia Rogers goes in-depth on her commitment to Oregon.

www.si.com

A factor in Rogers' decision was the opportunity for student-athletes to profit off of their name, image and likeness. The Oregon women's basketball team is one of the most marketable programs in the country — Sabrina Ionescu jerseys couldn't stay on the shelves during her senior season at Oregon, and tickets to the Ducks' final home games that year were a hot commodity.

"Now that we're getting paid for our name, image and likeness, I feel like Oregon is the place to be," Rogers said. "I think that all eyes are always on their women's basketball team and their sports in general."

 

[Figurehead]

Oregon Coach Kelly Graves could have made some money back in college. See video when he was a player at New Mexico

 

[temery]

It's only a matter of time when an nba team will draft a high school kid, pay for college to develop players. Will certain colleges become farm teams affiliated with an nba team?


This is going to totally screw up college sports.

 

[temery]

So who are going make the official representative of the BY? 'Cause we pretty much can now.

'The NCAA could and should limit the damage by allowing players to play through graduate school. A not good enough for the NBA type college player may still be better in his 6th year than a future NBA freshman college player.

 

[superjohn]

I think anyone who isn't completely out of touch agrees NIL should be allowed for student athletes. There will obviously be resentments when some of the kids are cleaning up like crazy and some are still just regular college basketball players like they've always been. Headaches galore for coaches but whatever, figure it out and NCAA figure it out...The terrifying thing if you're a fan of this whole college sports thing is boosters beeing allowed to have free reign...

I can't understand how anyone who has watched how we've run as a country isn't terrified of this becoming the Larry Ellison's against the Jeff Bezos's against the Phil Knights against the Elon Musks. I might be overstating it but it seems we're now open up to this sort of thing happening. I still haven't seen enough, read enough, and haven't seen where this is going but from what I have...it needs to be highly regulated. People seem to still be debating how it will effect the landscape with the local car dealership guy being involved. Sure, that's a thing but we're in this limbo right now where it could become Pony Express ×20.

As a college sports fan I hate it but if this the road we're choosing to travel down...Dave Benedict, Lamont etc. better be on the horn with Vince McMahon and Ray Dalio. If we're going full clown let's be the clown leaders.

 

[CTBasketball]

Can’t wait to see a 17 year old kid with no financial planning skills burn thru $30k a year.

This will be a disaster.

 

[metsfan2323]

At a certain point I can see the schools becoming less involved in the operation as it becomes the "Connecticut Huskies" brought to you by the Connecticut state merchants. Why continue the charade of going to classes? At least at that point the state would no longer have to subsidize the operation. I can also see MLB supporting this and dropping some of their minor league franchises which lose money. I also might be half a sleep this Friday morning writing dumb crap. I have no idea how this plays out but it seems the beast has been unleashed.