Article: Tremont Waters Prepares For Next Move

[FartMan69]

Before that season started you knew thats what brimah would be? Dont lie, you didnt. We dont know how good this giys will perform(carlton, cobb, diarra). But just saying they are worse because they arent as experienced is a flawed argument

I'd take a senior Olander, junior Daniels and Nolan over those three any day of the week. Taking Brimah out of the equation. And LOL @ experience doesn't matter.

 

[BUConn10]

Before that season started you knew thats what brimah would be? Dont lie, you didnt. We dont know how good this giys will perform(carlton, cobb, diarra). But just saying they are worse because they arent as experienced is a flawed argument

It's a flawed argument if you are dealing in absolutes, but I'd reckon it's a pretty smart, and safe bet if you had to wager one way or another.

How often do you see bigs enter the college game and become impact players right away? And now how many of those bigs were outside of the top 20 recruits who were not pegged as future pros coming into college with serious skills, very very few. Durham was a top 25 kid originally and most people werent happy with his production, now plug in a juco and undersized C, I don't see how I can safely just assume an upgrade over Brimah and Facey besides sheer positivity and optimism in the light of facts and numbers.

 

[KingAG]

I'd take a senior Olander, junior Daniels and Nolan over those three any day of the week. Taking Brimah out of the equation. And LOL @ experience doesn't matter.

Yup i said experience doesnt matter lmaoo. Listen better. And if your going to add daniels you have to add larrier

 

[KingAG]

It's a flawed argument if you are dealing in absolutes, but I'd reckon it's a pretty smart, and safe bet if you had to wager one way or another.

How often do you see bigs enter the college game and become impact players right away? And now how many of those bigs were outside of the top 20 recruits who were not pegged as future pros coming into college with serious skills, very very few. Durham was a top 25 kid originally and most people werent happy with his production, now plug in a juco and undersized C, I don't see how I can safely just assume an upgrade over Brimah and Facey besides sheer positivity and optimism in the light of facts and numbers.

But nolan, olander, and brimah werent "impact" players in the sense your saying. And i agree to an extent. If were asking these new guys to do what olander, nolan, and freshman brimah did that isnt an unreasonable expectation. They were tge ABSOLUTE definition of serviceable. The brimah and facey duo was better than nolan, olander, so if your point is you dont think they'll be better then brimah and facey next yr then i agree. But nolan and olander???

 

[BUConn10]

But nolan, olander, and brimah werent "impact" players in the sense your saying

They weren't studs, but I'm expecting better results with that front court than the incoming lot of freshman with no playing experience. Plus my usage of "impact" was with regards to incoming freshman.

 

[KingAG]

They weren't studs, but I'm expecting better results with that front court than the incoming lot of freshman with no playing experience. Plus my usage of "impact" was with regards to incoming freshman.

Oh ok understood. If your betting sure you take the known. But they could very well be just as good if not better than 2014's big guys and it not be suprising

 

[upstater]

I'd take a senior Olander, junior Daniels and Nolan over those three any day of the week. Taking Brimah out of the equation. And LOL @ experience doesn't matter.

Larrier is Daniels. At this point anyway. People killed Soph year Daniels, and this board has threads from Feb 2014 when Daniels was being eviscerated. Me, personally, I sure hope Carlton, Diarra and Cobb are better than Nolan and Brimah (take Olander out of it, he didn't even play). It would be a disappointment if they weren't better than Nolan and Brimah. So, yeah, I'd definitely trade the 3 new guys for the 2014 centers.

 

[KingAG]

Larrier is Daniels. At this point anyway. People killed Soph year Daniels, and this board has threads from Feb 2014 when Daniels was being eviscerated. Me, personally, I sure hope Carlton, Diarra and Cobb are better than Nolan and Brimah (take Olander out of it, he didn't even play). It would be a disappointment if they weren't better than Nolan and Brimah. So, yeah, I'd definitely trade the 3 new guys for the 2014 centers.

Okay so im not losing it lol. I think ppl tend to remember past players as being better than they actually were, especially role players. Nolan and freshman brimah werent impressive at all. They were nothing more than serviceable

 

[upstater]

I think this has been made quite evident by various sources in the know. We've little reason to doubt that bit at this point. If he gets UK/Duke/KU offer, he's there ime.

Some people have gotten inside info and presented it, but then others made assumptions about that info that were wrong, and the Boneyard narrative developed. And in an earlier post on the previous page even 99 is quoted as saying that Waters has also a limited amount of offers out there ( say 4 or 5). I credit the poster for saying he doesn't believe, and neither do I, but I also know that 99 knows there are many more school involved. I know the kid is playing it close to the vest but the fact that he isn't taking many visits right now is probably a very good sign.

 

[superjohn]

Must have confused you with another poster. I'm remote now and can't search and paste, but I could have sworn you harped on Alterique's shoulder repeatedly and diagnosed it before his own doctors did, and even questioned KO's wisdom in giving him a scholarship in the first place because of his prior history with that injury. And I thought you mentioned your concern about the shoulder again in this very thread.

As to your continued citation of Bazz and Boat or Kemba and Bazz, how exactly does that work if all three are on the team at the same time? Because you might remember that Jalen also has designs on running the team.

Absolutely no one is saying we don't want this kid. What a lot of people are saying is that it's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen, and we don't get the obsession with him to the point where some of you think we should be bending over backwards to offer him the moon and the stars when it's not a position of desperate need for us. Just feels like being set up for the continued narrative that we've suffered another devastating recruiting loss.

If and when that happens, does it count as another mark against Ollie, in addition to his failure to close him the first time? Just want to be prepared for the fallout.

What? Both, why is there all of a sudden room for only one? Worked out amazingly well with Bazz and Boat. When our team is great it is always run with 2 starting point guards. Unfortunately we also can't be positive Alterique's shoulder will hold up.

Amazing you got that out of what I really said. Also, Jalen will be gone after this season and we will need another point guard. Jalen, Alterique and Tremont would all play a ton this upcoming season.

 

[mauconnfan]

Amazing you got that out of what I really said. Also, Jalen will be gone after this season and we will need another point guard. Jalen, Alterique and Tremont would all play a ton this upcoming season.

I mean I think the recruitment is strange at best but the kid is a player. Imagine how great it would be for Jalen Adams to play like he wants to from the start, not worrying at all about foul #2 0r 3 in the first half because we have depth? Same with Alterique and CV...this makes the backcourt really really good if it happens. But it's a luxury at this point for me, love for it to happen but give me Sid and I'm happier. Give me both I'm having a party!

 

[gtcam]

As I remember, Nolan had some pretty significant minutes during the NCAAs in 2014 and AB had one shining moment vs St Joes.
Ithink its a toss up now with the incoming newbies BUT I think the new bigs have more potential than the 2014 version. JMHO

 

[gtcam]

Guys he's not desperate we can forget that thought. Said before I would welcome him and his dad with open arms and if he commits he'll be all in. I would love to see him in a husky uniform and let's just sit back and see how.it all plays out. He might surprise us all in one way or another.

It depends on how you look at desperate.
If he is really counting on a Puke/Kensucky/Kansas ask then I call him desperate - I just don't see it - It would have come by now IF those teams REALLY wanted him. At this point he a second/third choice/standby and that is what you play and practice for???. Regardless of the future advantages with playing on those 3 teams - you need to play a lot and be a star to really enjoy any future benefits
Why not go where you are wanted and are guaranteed to contribute out of the box?

 

[David 76]

People are painting Waters too negatively. He was asked "what do you look for in a tea". Not, do you want to put others on the bench.
The only legitimate red flag is he was far from sold on UConn from the start. I'll live with that and hope it changes once he is here.
Our anxiety is not his problem.

 

[gtcam]

People are painting Waters too negatively. He was asked "what do you look for in a tea". Not, do you want to put others on the bench.
The only legitimate red flag is he was far from sold on UConn from the start. I'll live with that and hope it changes once he is here.
Our anxiety is not his problem.

I like green tea
Just funning with you!!!!

 

[nyhuskies13]

Is there no part of this kid that's embarrassed in waiting to see if he can be Kansas or Duke's 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice at this point?

I can't believe no one is calling him out for being the back up, back up, prom date.

And normally, you give 'em the benefit of the doubt for being kids. But when someone's been waiting at the bar the entire night for a hotter Girl to show interest, and no one ever does, you just start to look foolish.

At what point do we have enough pride to walk away??

 

[Chin Diesel]

Is there no part of this kid that's embarrassed in waiting to see if he can be Kansas or Duke's 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice at this point?

I can't believe no one is calling him out for being the back up, back up, prom date.

And normally, you give 'em the benefit of the doubt for being kids. But when someone's been waiting at the bar the entire night for a hotter Girl to show interest, and no one ever does, you just start to look foolish.

At what point do we have enough pride to walk away??

When UConn has a full roster of D1 players?

 

[pj]

But when someone's been waiting at the bar the entire night for a hotter Girl to show interest, and no one ever does, you just start to look foolish.

At what point do we have enough pride to walk away??

When closing time has passed, everyone else has gone home, and we can't find any bottles with leftover tequila in the gutter.

 

[huskyharry]

As I remember, Nolan had some pretty significant minutes during the NCAAs in 2014 and AB had one shining moment vs St Joes.
Ithink its a toss up now with the incoming newbies BUT I think the new bigs have more potential than the 2014 version. JMHO

One potentially important factor: 3 out of 4 (maybe MD as well, but I haven't heard) are good passers, something no one attributed to our prior
bigs, with five talented guards/wings this could really improve offensive efficiency

 

[JMick]

One potentially important factor: 3 out of 4 (maybe MD as well, but I haven't heard) are good passers, something no one attributed to our prior
bigs, with five talented guards/wings this could really improve offensive efficiency

More important than passing is that it appears they can catch the damn ball. Brimah had stone hands. Nolan dropped tons of easy passes. Facey got better, but wasn't great. We gave up so many easy buckets because the bigs couldn't catch. I've seen kids who couldn't catch a lick train on a jugs machine and get significantly better, but Brimah either didn't try hard enough or was a lost cause in this department.

 

[8893]

"what do you look for in a tea"

Oolong. Preferably long leaf, on the greener side more than brown if available. Pre-Chingming, Phoenix or Dan Cong.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I don't mind repeating myself, because it's my first time in this thread: I've liked what I've seen of him and would very much like him in a Husky uniform if he wants to be in one, and not if not. Hard to imagine the coaches don't feel the same way. Pretty simple.

 

[Fishy]

Is there no part of this kid that's embarrassed in waiting to see if he can be Kansas or Duke's 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice at this point?

I can't believe no one is calling him out for being the back up, back up, prom date.

And normally, you give 'em the benefit of the doubt for being kids. But when someone's been waiting at the bar the entire night for a hotter Girl to show interest, and no one ever does, you just start to look foolish.

At what point do we have enough pride to walk away??

Top to bottom, this is dumb.

 

[gtcam]

I don't mind repeating myself, because it's my first time in this thread: I've liked what I've seen of him and would very much like him in a Husky uniform if he wants to be in one, and not if not. Hard to imagine the coaches don't feel the same way. Pretty simple.

One more time Please

 

[8893]

Amazing you got that out of what I really said. Also, Jalen will be gone after this season and we will need another point guard. Jalen, Alterique and Tremont would all play a ton this upcoming season.

There was a little more, as I remembered:

Search Results for Query: alterique shoulder | The Boneyard

I'm done talking in circles on this though. No one can blame or is blaming the kid for wanting a better team or a starring role from the get-go, which appears to be his clear preference. We offer neither. If he wants to come, I'd love to have him; I just hope expectations are reasonable on both ends.

 

[bazz&boujee]

Is there no part of this kid that's embarrassed in waiting to see if he can be Kansas or Duke's 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice at this point?

I can't believe no one is calling him out for being the back up, back up, prom date.

And normally, you give 'em the benefit of the doubt for being kids. But when someone's been waiting at the bar the entire night for a hotter Girl to show interest, and no one ever does, you just start to look foolish.

At what point do we have enough pride to walk away??

very simple minded my friend.

Yes, the hot girl does not give me much of a look because i am a 7. but i am a 7 with a GREAT personality. once she realizes that all the hot guys she obsesses about don't give much of a poop about her as she'd like, she'll reluctantly give me a chance because she likes the attention and has dependency issues (as well as daddy issues).

you think i'm going to blow my opportunity to get with this girl because of FOOLISH PRIDE? because I wasn't her first choice? hell no. because if I don't i'm stuck with a 7 myself, dreaming of dimes. so i'm going to take that hot babe out and show her what she has been missing. and once she realizes the intangibles that make up this 7, she'll know how valuable I really am. I know how valuable I really am, she just doesn't know it yet. but I can't blame her, on a shallow level I'm just a 7. but soon enough she'll fall in love with the D(efensive schemes) and will be wearing a ring.

foolish pride... LEAVE IT AT THE DOOR

 

[B1GEast]

He has multiple opportunities. A lot of programs are looking for guards. He is not desperate by any means, and he is a very good player. UConn fans should chill on the idea that he is some sort of default because he is otherwise unwanted. It is not true. He is interested in UConn. He has other options.

I'm sure he does have options. If he doesn't come to Uconn, it's not cause I criticized the way he's marketing himself.

 

[Walker11]

I don't think there is anything weird with this recruitment and I don't think Tremont said anything remotely out of line. If you think he is some cocky diva because of those comments, don't read any comments from any recruits, ever.

Waiting for a better offer is an extremely normal thing. The only thing "off" in this recruitment is that Tremont decommitted late, justifiably so, and now we feel that he is under the gun to make a decision when he really isn't. If it wasn't for all of the "insiders" changing their take every week, there would be nothing abnormal. We are over analyzing everything. Good player has good offers in hand and is waiting for a top offer, likely contingent on another player (Duval). This is very normal.

The kid is an extremely good player and a good student and I have all the patience in the world for him. Its not like we have another comparable option at the guard position....

As to the frontcourt talk - there was the same talk leading into '14. That frontcourt was not good and the team was good because we had the best PG in the country. Lets hope that is the case again. Our incoming frontcourt has a very low bar to pass in comparison, even though I wouldn't exactly put money on them being better. Lets all buy into the 2 posters who claim Diarra was a beast in practice to fuel our likely false sense of optimism.

 

[upstater]

I don't think there is anything weird with this recruitment and I don't think Tremont said anything remotely out of line. If you think he is some cocky diva because of those comments, don't read any comments from any recruits, ever.

Waiting for a better offer is an extremely normal thing. The only thing "off" in this recruitment is that Tremont decommitted late, justifiably so, and now we feel that he is under the gun to make a decision when he really isn't. If it wasn't for all of the "insiders" changing their take every week, there would be nothing abnormal. We are over analyzing everything. Good player has good offers in hand and is waiting for a top offer, likely contingent on another player (Duval). This is very normal.

The kid is an extremely good player and a good student and I have all the patience in the world for him. Its not like we have another comparable option at the guard position....

As to the frontcourt talk - there was the same talk leading into '14. That frontcourt was not good and the team was good because we had the best PG in the country. Lets hope that is the case again. Our incoming frontcourt has a very low bar to pass in comparison, even though I wouldn't exactly put money on them being better. Lets all buy into the 2 posters who claim Diarra was a beast in practice to fuel our likely false sense of optimism.

This team, with Larrier, Adams, Gilbert, Vital and potentially Waters, has a heckuva lot of talent. The only question is how are they going to come together with the coaching staff.

 

[superjohn]

There was a little more, as I remembered:

Search Results for Query: alterique shoulder | The Boneyard

I'm done talking in circles on this though. No one can blame or is blaming the kid for wanting a better team or a starring role from the get-go, which appears to be his clear preference. We offer neither. If he wants to come, I'd love to have him; I just hope expectations are reasonable on both ends.

As long as you realize I didn't say what you are saying I said. I worried any serious hit on Alterique's shoulder and he would be done and need surgery just like I feared with Dunn, I was right on both counts. For a couple days Ollie was pretending Alterique could be playing right away, I said that was nonsense and he was done for the season, I was right. Was also right on November 17th when I said we would have a losing record this season. These are all things I really wish I was wrong about.

I don't fear an Alterique recurrence of the injury but we can't be positive about his and Larrier's health because of their history. We need as many great players as we can get.